Yes, many times. I denounce the intentional killing of civilians in every case by any nation anywhere. I recognize that in military conflicts they sometimes get caught in the crossfire but even then I demand that militaries do their utmost to minimize civilian casualties. Whenever someone intentionally sets out to kill civilians as their primary target, or to maximize rather than minimize the civilian deaths, it's reprehensible.Have you told him that you denounce the killing of Palestinian civilians by Israelis??.
I don't think either side have done enough to deserve a peaceful existance. So what if he refuses to denounce the killing of Israeli civilians. Civilians are always victims of war, this is a war. Stop your childish obesesion with "rules of war" the first casualty of war is the truth. In this case, don't pretend you actually know what's going on, no one does, all we have are opinons, which are coloured by personal bias, which are influenced by unreliable reports from the media and propaganda from both sides.All I know is that he refuses to denounce the killing of Israeli civilians by Palestinians. I have asked him point blank many times, and he refuses to.
I agree with your view that both sides have a right to exist, and deserve a peaceful homeland. I don't think Gryfin does, though.
Don't give me a load of crap about the truth being the first casualty of war, Hamas is *proud* of killing civilians.I don't think either side have done enough to deserve a peaceful existance. So what if he refuses to denounce the killing of Israeli civilians. Civilians are always victims of war, this is a war. Stop your childish obesesion with "rules of war" the first casualty of war is the truth. In this case, don't pretend you actually know what's going on, no one does, all we have are opinons, which are coloured by personal bias, which are influenced by unreliable reports from the media and propaganda from both sides.
Just to be fair to both sides, Israel is not so hot here either. While I do not believe the Israeli military is guilty of all the things Gryfin charges, most of which are huge exagerrations and misrepresentations, at least the following is true:Israel is attempting to pull off the impossible, trying to kill terrrorists in a civillian population, which uses its own people as shields.
They view settlers as occupiers, and since the settlers are armed to the teeth they scarcely qualify as "civilians" the settlers themselves don't even see themselves as civilians but as soldiers of Zionism. So please don't give me that crap, you are just regurgitating your opinion with your biases based on little fact, as am I .Don't give me a load of crap about the truth being the first casualty of war, Hamas is *proud* of killing civilians.
Hamas is *proud* of killing civilians outside the settlements as well. They routinely fire rockets at non-settlement Israeli cities, and they have a big celebration when they kill a few kids.They view settlers as occupiers, and since the settlers are armed to the teeth they scarcely qualify as "civilians" the settlers themselves don't even see themselves as civilians but as soldiers of Zionism. So please don't give me that crap, you are just regurgitating your opinion with your biases based on little fact, as am I .
Nonsense, this shows that you know ZERO and are pretty stupid as well. Firstly a) Israel controls most borders. b) Egypt that controls one border does not want them. c) the ones that have fled to other muslim countries are in shithole refugee camps living even worse then in the west bank, d) No one wants unskilled, radicalized angry young men in their country. Wow!! You have made one of the most clueless statements I have seen on this subject. Congrats.Caged like animals with the right to leave any time they want, as most muslim countries I assume would embrace them.
Please show me proof, this is another rubbish statement. I don't think their pathetic rockets have killed more then one or 2 people, I don't think any were children. In any event, their rockets are there to sow fear, not to kill, so anyone that is killed is collateral damage. They cannot be aimed with any degree of precision, so your claim of willful intent is nonsense. I agree they would not be sad if someone was killed. But I don't think the Israelis mourn dead Palis, adults, children or terrorists. Like I said they are both the same, one side has much more weapons. Intent and respect for human life are equally deplorable.Hamas is *proud* of killing civilians outside the settlements as well. They routinely fire rockets at non-settlement Israeli cities, and they have a big celebration when they kill a few kids.
You are confusing lack of success with lack of intent. Vey different. If they did not have the intent they would not fire into areas which are completly civilan.Please show me proof, this is another rubbish statement. I don't think their pathetic rockets have killed more then one or 2 people, I don't think any were children. In any event, their rockets are there to sow fear, not to kill, so anyone that is killed is collateral damage. They cannot be aimed with any degree of precision, so your claim of willful intent is nonsense. I agree they would not be sad if someone was killed. But I don't think the Israelis mourn dead Palis, adults, children or terrorists. Like I said they are both the same, one side has much more weapons. Intent and respect for human life are equally deplorable.
No, it is not exactly the same, it is not even close. If the Israelis wanted to kill a lot of people, a lot of people would be dead. In general the Israeli military does attempt to limit the number of civilian casualties. In general its targets are always military in nature.this is exactly the same what Israeli forces have been doing but only in mass volume
So what do you think Israels intentions are? If they could get away with it don't you think they would wipe the palis off the face of the earth. The are constrained by western morailty.You are confusing lack of success with lack of intent. Vey different. If they did not have the intent they would not fire into areas which are completly civilan.