Just heard on the Score some insane ramblings about Detroit and Ken Holland inquiring the Maple Laughs today about Mat Sundin's availability. According to the nutbars on the TV names involved were Jiri Hudler, Brett Lebda, Valterri Filppula, or possible draft picks. This is probably complete Toronto media nonsense but I thought I'd post because nobody else had yet. Maybe this can get some Leaf fans heads exploding!
Sundin to Detroit???
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Could be, not sure, i heard the same thing at the begining of the season, if the leafs are out of a playoff spot and have no hope they will trade sundin. But i could be wrong, but i believe this is the best thing to do. Leafs can get a lot for sundin. I just hope JF doesnt screw this up if it does happen.
So the Wings, who are dominating the season so far, would tear apart their team and give up a bunch of productive young players for someone at the end of their career who has not exactly been known as a stellar playoff player??? BTW ... In the new NHL, if you are going to make the cap numbers work with an expiring contract, wouldn't you want the types of players the Wings would be giving up?
This media outlet that reported this know's that Matt Millen has no influence on the Wings right?
Definitely sounds like wishful thinking or creative television.
This media outlet that reported this know's that Matt Millen has no influence on the Wings right?
Definitely sounds like wishful thinking or creative television.
Take the 3 players, and then re-sign him in the off season. 
I know, wishful thinking.
This isn't a new story, apparently some of the Swedish players have told management that they want him for the stretch run.
I know, wishful thinking.This isn't a new story, apparently some of the Swedish players have told management that they want him for the stretch run.
You would think a move like this would stand to benefit an organization...except the Leafs are run by a bunch of dopes. They will make a trade like this and end up getting players the likes of Mike Craig, Aki Berg, & Jeff Ware.
Lapper said:
No - one is sure what Mats will do. It must be tough giving your all to a team with no supporting cast, knowing you have no chance at the Stanley Cup year after year. He may sign with the Leafs, or he may retire, play in Sweden where he is one of their favourite sons or if he did win the cup he might want to play with that team for another year.
If Toronto is obviously out of playoff contention by the deadline, and Detroit offers a good package, Sundin could finish the year off there, hopefully for his sake win the cup, and then decide what to do.
The Leafs might be improved by the trade, giving optimism that they might actually do something in the playoffs for 2008/2009, but if I were in his shoes at that point, I would take any of the other choices.
That being said, most people will never understand his loyalty to a team that has never provided him with good linemates or adequate team-mates to get the job done.
So until it happens or doesn't happen, it is all speculation, rumours and wishful thinking.
Lapper said:
No, they may trade him while he still has some value, and to give him a shot at the cup, which he's sure not winning here. Kinda like what the Bruins did with Ray Bourque. With JFJ at the helm they'll probably get as much, or less.
Well from what I have read (and it seems to make sense) for JFJ the future is NOW...
Keeping his job seems to mean making the playoffs , making changes for the future does not meet his employment goals ... (thereffore keep Sundin ... as his only ticket to playoffs)
However does anyone know who is actually running this team decision wise..
Is it the Teachers union, JFJ , Peddie-baum.... by the time they make a group decision Sundin will be cashing his RRSP's !
Keeping his job seems to mean making the playoffs , making changes for the future does not meet his employment goals ... (thereffore keep Sundin ... as his only ticket to playoffs)
However does anyone know who is actually running this team decision wise..
Is it the Teachers union, JFJ , Peddie-baum.... by the time they make a group decision Sundin will be cashing his RRSP's !
Neverenuff$ said:
JFJ has no future. The Leafs will never be a real winner until they tear down and rebuild. In todays NHL that can be done fairly quickly, a year or two, but you need a plan and the authority and commitment to execution. Trading as many overpriced vets as possible is job one. Making the playoffs satisfies the bottom line but is an impediment to long term success. Tank now, reap the benefits later. Tanking for a couple of years would be best. Get at least a shot at Stamkos and Tavares. Stockpile draft picks. Get young and hungry. Never happen. MLSE is all about the $$$$$$$.
B-D I think we are saying the same things.. Leaf s won't change ... they already have a winning Financial formula... why mess around with success ?
wait.. there was a unanimous board decision.... raise ticket prices !!
wait.. there was a unanimous board decision.... raise ticket prices !!
hammertm said:
I agree , and after detroit did .. "not so well" with the Bertuzzi deal last year
they may be wary.
However winners are always looking for that extra edge for the cup run at the deadline.
So that counts the Leafs out.
Last year we all saw Nashville give up a couple of top prospects just so Forsberg could help them lose in the first round again. Atlanta giving away draft picks for the quintessential playoff underachiever Keith Tkachuk didn't help their team.
It's possible that teams may start rethinking this policy. There's always going to be pressure from the media to bring in somebody, but if your teams playing well then you might be best not tinkering with things.
It's possible that teams may start rethinking this policy. There's always going to be pressure from the media to bring in somebody, but if your teams playing well then you might be best not tinkering with things.
duuno said:
especially cup rings and playoff experience.
Does detroit need a Sundin anyway ... Saturday they had losts of fire power and speed... they could use a McCarty ...
Neverenuff$ said:
Detroit could definately use Sundin. Sure they have a lot of weapons, but Sundin would give them 2 extremely dangerous lines. Its like picking your poison on which line you send your checking and best defensive pairing out against, it might not even make a difference.
I mean hell, Ottawa could have used another really dangerous line in the finals last year.
