also not to mention they bring it home to folks that are not young and possibly retired but that is ok, CULL THE OLD.
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also not to mention they bring it home to folks that are not young and possibly retired but that is ok, CULL THE OLD.
I'm personally tired of all this "blame young people" stuff. It makes the health people sound like crotchety old fogies who are out of touch and have nothing to do but complain. Seriously, it's getting ridiculous.
What is never brought up is how many serious cases can be directly tied to a "reckless youth" (which is too vague a term, anyway). I don't know too many people who are "the party type" who live with someone else who is "at risk" (like their grandparents). Likely, someone who can afford to go drinking at a nightclub likely lives on their own- there's hardly any risk they will catch the virus and spread it to someone vulnerable.
More importantly, I'd hazard a guess that there's no one age group who is "more reckless" (relatively speaking) than other groups. In other words, "young people at a party" are no more disproportionally a risk than "old people dining out".
Regardless, I think it's time we stop trying to look for blame and start looking for meaningful solutions that can allow us to adapt to the virus. Fighting and sniping at each other gets us nowhere- in fact, it drives us further from our goal. There's a happy medium somewhere where we can contain the virus and still enjoy our lives to the fullest extent. We just need to stop messing around and find it.
What is never brought up is how many serious cases can be directly tied to a "reckless youth" (which is too vague a term, anyway). I don't know too many people who are "the party type" who live with someone else who is "at risk" (like their grandparents). Likely, someone who can afford to go drinking at a nightclub likely lives on their own- there's hardly any risk they will catch the virus and spread it to someone vulnerable.
More importantly, I'd hazard a guess that there's no one age group who is "more reckless" (relatively speaking) than other groups. In other words, "young people at a party" are no more disproportionally a risk than "old people dining out".
Regardless, I think it's time we stop trying to look for blame and start looking for meaningful solutions that can allow us to adapt to the virus. Fighting and sniping at each other gets us nowhere- in fact, it drives us further from our goal. There's a happy medium somewhere where we can contain the virus and still enjoy our lives to the fullest extent. We just need to stop messing around and find it.
I get your opinion but that does not change the data. Young people are a big part of the reason why the virus continues to spread. There are reckless, arrogant, or obstinate people of all ages but when the tests say 2/3 of positives are under 40, that means 2/3 of the positives are under 40.
...and the data are faulty. We don't test everyone, so we don't know how many people truly contracted the disease over the entire population. We also don't even do a random sample where we could estimate that number.
The only numbers that are somewhat accurate are deaths and hospitalizations. They have been declining ever since the peak in mid-April/early May. That tells me more than the daily case counts do.
Wait, you believe the mask is drenched in covid while also trying to claim covid isn't a thing?
No shit.
Doesn't change the fact that 2/3 of positives are under 40. You may speculate that for some reason older people aren't getting tested for some reason but unless you can back that assertion...
And funny that you now try to change your argument from why it is spreading to who it impacts. Of course older people are more vulnerable but they tend not to be out in large gatherings, spreading the virus.
Here's what I do know:
The Ontario government does not reveal any data about where people contract COVID-19, other than recorded cases in healthcare and long-term care homes. We do not hear about cases at nightclubs, at strip clubs, at restaurants, at schools, at malls, etc. unless it is reported in the media. Even then, it's not the complete picture- we don't know if the strip club cases are indicative of a wider, general trend amongst clubs or if they were isolated incidents. I mean, we could have had 200 cases at a wide array of box stores and fast food restaurants and just one case at a strip club- but that's not going to be the news story that gets the clicks, right?
Further to the point, I could claim that the increase in cases among youngsters is due to youngsters caring more about their own health than "old people" who are not bothering to get tested. I'm clearly talking out of my derriere, but there's no way of knowing if that's not the truth. The stats are horribly incomplete and unreliable.
Which brings me back to my original point. Blaming one group or one set of establishments or sounding any kind of panic based on the case counts are pointless, because we have no idea if that's the real situation. I also think we really need to get beyond the "blame game"- this pandemic has gone on long enough, and worse, we, as a populace, have been strung along long enough.
It's time to find solutions.
The Ontario government does not reveal any data about where people contract COVID-19, other than recorded cases in healthcare and long-term care homes. We do not hear about cases at nightclubs, at strip clubs, at restaurants, at schools, at malls, etc. unless it is reported in the media. Even then, it's not the complete picture- we don't know if the strip club cases are indicative of a wider, general trend amongst clubs or if they were isolated incidents. I mean, we could have had 200 cases at a wide array of box stores and fast food restaurants and just one case at a strip club- but that's not going to be the news story that gets the clicks, right?
Further to the point, I could claim that the increase in cases among youngsters is due to youngsters caring more about their own health than "old people" who are not bothering to get tested. I'm clearly talking out of my derriere, but there's no way of knowing if that's not the truth. The stats are horribly incomplete and unreliable.
Which brings me back to my original point. Blaming one group or one set of establishments or sounding any kind of panic based on the case counts are pointless, because we have no idea if that's the real situation. I also think we really need to get beyond the "blame game"- this pandemic has gone on long enough, and worse, we, as a populace, have been strung along long enough.
It's time to find solutions.
Instead of just looking for things that you think support your opinion, have you taken the time to wonder why that data isn't publicly listed? Other than our right to privacy, could it be that it is difficult without genetic testing to prove where a case was contracted?
For example, you might have noticed that public health did not once say people caught covid at Club paradise; they said seven people connected to the club tested positive. That is because they can not prove for sure where they actually caught it even though it is quite likely that several cases were transmitted there. Same thing with the school in Quebec where 23 kids tested positive in one class. It is very likely that most caught it in school but they won't say they did unless it can be proven. Now the media reports are more vague but that's because media are looking for interest, not accuracy.
And sorry that you get triggered by it but younger people are out and about far more often than the elderly. I think it's stupid that Ford is bitching about parties and limiting the size of social gatherings while not applying those rules to schools and businesses but that is politics, not science.
