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"You Should Apologize" - Joe Rogan Vindicated in Heated Debate Over COVID Coverage

dvous11

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Yes.
For PCR.

That doesn't mean we should believe whatever random shit comes out of his mouth.

He never said anything about COVID. He died before it existed.
If you're able to put 2+2 together, based on what he HAS said on camera, it's pretty easy to use deductive reasoning to assess many of the COVID frauds executed on the general public.
 

Valcazar

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If you're able to put 2+2 together, based on what he HAS said on camera, it's pretty easy to use deductive reasoning to assess many of the COVID frauds executed on the general public.
Ahh, so you are just co-opting a dead guy famous for denying AIDS to justify denying COVID?

Cool.
 
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Valcazar

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:rolleyes: You put words in people's mouths? Just look at it all factually, removing your idealogical brainwashed bias.
Are you denying that he was an AIDS denier now?
Are you denying that he never said anything about COVID?

Jubee literally put up a quote of his that was about how he believed AIDS doesn't exist.

PCR testing can ONLY detect PROTEINS that are BELIEVED,
in some cases, WRONGLY to be unique to HIV,
the tests can detect genetic sequences of viruses,
but NOT VIRUSES themselves.” -

Dr. Kary Mullis Inventor of PCR test.
 
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dvous11

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Are you denying that he was an AIDS denier now?
Are you denying that he never said anything about COVID?

Jubee literally put up a quote of his that was about how he believed AIDS doesn't exist.
We are talking about his contribution to PCR, which has been completely mis-used for diagnosis of covid, which is how the corrupt powers perpetuated the 99.5% survivable covid strain.
PCR is an amplifier not a diagnostic tool.
Stay on topic bro.
 

Valcazar

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We are talking about his contribution to PCR, which has been completely mis-used for diagnosis of covid, which is how the corrupt powers perpetuated the 99.5% survivable covid strain.
PCR is an amplifier not a diagnostic tool.
Stay on topic bro.
His comments about PCR for HIV aren't particularly relevant to the use of PCR during COVID.
Especially since the analogy you want to draw is "PCR can't show this, that's why HIV doesn't exist".
Showing he was spectacularly wrong about PCR for AIDS isn't a strong argument for why his comments prove PCR was misused for SARS-CoV-2.
 

dvous11

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His comments about PCR for HIV aren't particularly relevant to the use of PCR during COVID.
Especially since the analogy you want to draw is "PCR can't show this, that's why HIV doesn't exist".
Showing he was spectacularly wrong about PCR for AIDS isn't a strong argument for why his comments prove PCR was misused for SARS-CoV-2.
You are trying to twist this to suit your narrative.
Do u know the typical cycle threshold of PCR used to test Covid?
 

Jubee

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Ahh yes.
The guy who famously thought HIV was a hoax and believed in astrology and met a talking raccoon alien.

Who also died before COVID-19 and so never commented on it.
Convenient timing and he didn't have the chance to comment on it in real life, but he did comment the PCR test and its potential for (intentional) misuse and Fauci never took Mullis up on his offer for a debate (too scared?).
Mullis was much more of an intellect than Fauci could ever be.

His belief on HIV was that HIV is not the cause of AIDS.

He took LSD, to him a mind enhancing drug. Tell me you never smoked a joint in your life and thought of or came up with some ideas that some would think would be "out there" but to you they were real.
Only the difference here would be this dude was an actual scientist and genius, whereas you and I are not.

I would side with him over the bureaucrat. He pushed the boundaries of science and had the exact right mind for it.
Btw, his PCR test was abused and manipulated for nefarious reasons, he called it well before he died, again, conveniently before COVID.

A little addendum, Nikola Tesla was considered crazy too.
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Valcazar

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Convenient timing and he didn't have the chance to comment on it in real life, but he did comment the PCR test and its potential for (intentional) misuse and Fauci never took Mullis up on his offer for a debate (too scared?).
Mullis was much more of an intellect than Fauci could ever be.
Yes, I presumed he had become a thing due to his history with Fauci.
Always more emotionally resonant if you can tie narrative threads together.


His belief on HIV was that HIV is not the cause of AIDS.
Yes.
I am aware.

Part of his argument was that you can only use PCR to find genetic sequences.

He took LSD, to him a mind enhancing drug. Tell me you never smoked a joint in your life and thought of or came up with some ideas that some would think would be "out there" but to you they were real.
Only the difference here would be this dude was an actual scientist and genius, whereas you and I are not.

I would side with him over the bureaucrat. He pushed the boundaries of science and had the exact right mind for it.
LOL.
You are free to believe whatever you want.
Like I said, he makes for a good narrative.

Btw, his PCR test was abused and manipulated for nefarious reasons, he called it well before he died, again, conveniently before COVID.
Do tell.

A little addendum, Nikola Tesla was considered crazy too.
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For good reason.
 

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Yes, I presumed he had become a thing due to his history with Fauci.
Always more emotionally resonant if you can tie narrative threads together.




Yes.
I am aware.

Part of his argument was that you can only use PCR to find genetic sequences.



LOL.
You are free to believe whatever you want.
Like I said, he makes for a good narrative.

Do tell.


For good reason.
Watch the Mullis interview, it'll explain a lot.
Otherwise everything you said was just a weak attempt at trying to discredit someone who was actually a genius, you are not (a Nobel prize winner either).



Not surprisingly there may have been an attempt at scrubbing this page off the interwebz, however good thing webarchive caught it.
 

Valcazar

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Watch the Mullis interview, it'll explain a lot.
It does indeed.

Otherwise everything you said was just a weak attempt at trying to discredit someone who was actually a genius, you are not (a Nobel prize winner either).
Oh dear, you think someone is owed respect outside of his field because he has a Nobel Prize?
I see.

This page is amazing.

You should post it all the time in response to anyone questioning you.
Really.
It explains a lot.
 

Jubee

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It does indeed.
Glad you agree.

Oh dear, you think someone is owed respect outside of his field because he has a Nobel Prize?
I see.
Uhhh...

This page is amazing.

You should post it all the time in response to anyone questioning you.
Really.
It explains a lot.
It's actually very good. How many boosters did you get again? lol
 

StephenHKing

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Damn. Came here to talk Rogan (I like him, but he has zero education and often says dumb things) and learned HIV may not cause AIDS (a few Google searches shows this is an actual theory with spotty but occasional support).

Didn’t even know that was a debate.

Thing about conspiracy-oriented friends is sometimes they have a point.

Cool.

Oh FWIW Nobel Prize winners are smarter than any of us (they typically don’t have time for this hobby ‘cause of all the science stuff) and have other smart friends so they tend to be right about science stuff even outside of their field.

But it’s like having a chartered bank CEO opine about the collapse of Corus. Interesting to hear but it’s more compelling from someone in a related field.
 
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