You Lesson Crime By Eliminating Poverty

[Darts]

but don't have a word to say about their tax money going to corporate bailouts.

The Air Canada bailout is about saving jobs and protecting passengers. Yes, you will get a ticket refund if you have an outstanding ticket with AC.

Personally, I would have preferred we save the $5.9 billion in tax money and spend it on healthcare and/or education. Disclosure: I have no stake in AC.

 

[Jasmina]

Ummm, you DO know half that shit was built with slave labour, right?

LOL! Once you frame the conversation as the conservative vs. lefty issue, you bring it down to the high school debating club level. BTW, not only the modern society cannot be build without the "common good", the old society going back to the Egyptian kingdoms recognized it as the vital component to growth and prosperity. Cities built harbors to increase trade, lighthouses to make it safer and sewers and aqueducts to make the society healthier. Ever heard of the Roman roads? Maybe even bridges, city walls, etc.? Jesus H. Murphy our education system has really failed.

 

[rhuarc29]

You lesson crime with universal health care, public housing, strong unions, high wages, universal childcare, and free college.

You lesson violence by creating happy healthy communities that aren't fighting over material resources to survive.

I don't agree with public housing, universal childcare or free college. I agree with accessible housing, childcare and college. Putting us in the position of coming begging to the government for these things is a bad proposition.
Instead, we should concentrate on better distributing the wealth of our nation through other means, so that those items are accessible to as many as possible.
The problem right now is wealth inequality. Globalization, advancements in tech, and a tax system that has gotten progressively less progressive are all contributing to that problem. The solution isn't government, it's changing our economic policies.

 

[Renus]

Um, respectfully, just where are you getting your information?

For 2019: Federal Spending.

Old Age Security $47B
Canada Health Transfer: $43B
Social Transfer $15B
Income Supplement: $14B

Total $119B...Are these not "social" programs in your view?

(This is hardly 'minimal' and I didn't really look too far down the list)

$119 Billion divided by 37.5 million Canadians is $3173 per person.

That's a whole bunch of transfer if you ask me.

The entire government spends over 25,000 a person.

Add the federal budget as well as provincial and municipal.

Seems like a small amount by comparison.

Not to mention the Trudeau/Morneau 30 billion tax breaks, the Doug Ford tax breaks, and in the past tax breaks of Wynne/McGunity and Harris in Ontario.
Don't forget the Rob Ford vehicle fee reduction, Trudeau tax credits, Harper GST reduction, Mulroney cutting the MST, etc.

Add all this up and it's billions upon billions of tax breaks to ... the same people who say their taxes are too high ?

Seems like no one pays any kind of tax, what-so-ever.

 

[Jasmina]

Oh okay, we are going to generalize ALL programs together and not break it down?

The reality is we pay mere PENNIES on each.

Notice "Crown Corporations" AND defense are on that list, and make up the greatest portions...

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/tax-dollars-1.4545415

Um, respectfully, just where are you getting your information?

For 2019: Federal Spending.

Old Age Security $47B
Canada Health Transfer: $43B
Social Transfer $15B
Income Supplement: $14B

Total $119B...Are these not "social" programs in your view?

(This is hardly 'minimal' and I didn't really look too far down the list)

$119 Billion divided by 37.5 million Canadians is $3173 per person.

That's a whole bunch of transfer if you ask me.

 

[Claudia Love]

53% of Canadians are now $200 away from insolvency.

Meanwhile, Canada's billionaires got $53 billion richer, during the pandemic.

This is what an economy rigged for the wealthiest few looks like.

 

[Renus]

53% of Canadians are now $200 away from insolvency.

Meanwhile, Canada's billionaires got $53 billion richer, during the pandemic.

This is what an economy rigged for the wealthiest few looks like.

The Trudeau deficit is 87 billion, but your saying rich people gained 53 billion.

If these people "paid their fair share" that deficit would go down to a mere 34 billion.

But no.

Big direct cuts to poor people first, and middle class service cuts second.

That's the Canadian way.

 

[jcpro]

Ummm, you DO know half that shit was built with slave labour, right?

And your point is exactly what?

 

[Darts]

As the late great Jack Layton use to say:

"Tax breaks don't benefit people who don't pay taxes."

 

[VIPhunter]

Oh okay, we are going to generalize ALL programs together and not break it down?

The reality is we pay mere PENNIES on each.

Notice "Crown Corporations" AND defense are on that list, and make up the greatest portions...

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/tax-dollars-1.4545415

Again, respectfully, you are not really reading the pie chart properly.

Benefits, make up 58.3 cents of every dollar we pay (58%)

Defence and Crown corporations make up 10cents (10%)

The bulk of federal spending is in the transfer money to people.

Again, if we figure it out at just over 3000 dollars per person paid to support our country's benefit package, I would suggest to you that for most of us this is hardly 'pennies'.

It may or may NOT be the right thing to do. I'm not arguing either way. However when we pretend that our generous benefit system is not a significant burden to the average taxpayer, I think we make a major mistake.

It's important to know what we pay, and where the money goes.