You Lesson Crime By Eliminating Poverty

[Claudia Love]

You lesson crime with universal health care, public housing, strong unions, high wages, universal childcare, and free college.

You lesson violence by creating happy healthy communities that aren't fighting over material resources to survive.

 

[barnacler]

You lesson crime with universal health care, public housing, strong unions, high wages, universal childcare, and free college.

You lesson violence by creating happy healthy communities that aren't fighting over material resources to survive.

You lessen poverty by introducing free markets and entrepreneurship. Look at china. Not perfect, but they have lifted 400 million people out of poverty.

The first list - you need money BEFORE you get all those things.

Material resources ain't so important nowadays, other factors determine wealth.

 

[Claudia Love]

You lessen poverty by introducing free markets and entrepreneurship. Look at china. Not perfect, but they have lifted 400 million people out of poverty.

The first list - you need money BEFORE you get all those things.

Material resources ain't so important nowadays, other factors determine wealth.

Exactly, You need money first. That is why the poor people steal or do other crimes. They are looking to have some kind of substantial life.

 

[wazup]

Exactly, You need money first. That is why the poor people steal or do other crimes. They are looking to have some kind of substantial life.

They're mostly just lazy and have no interest in working, the end......I'm talking developed country people.

 

[Mr.Know-It-All]

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs"

We've pretty much succeeded in this. Even the poorest have the basic essentials, and our poorest are wealthy compared to the world's poor.

 

[Claudia Love]

Well with a pandemic going on crime is just going to get worse. Not only will you have the poorest of the poor looking to survive , but you will see middle class drop down to being poor and desperately trying to survive.

 

[Lickylick]

You lesson crime with universal health care, public housing, strong unions, high wages, universal childcare, and free college.

You lesson violence by creating happy healthy communities that aren't fighting over material resources to survive.

So true, but sounds to much like socialism, the rich would never agree.

 

[Claudia Love]

So true, but sounds to much like socialism, the rich would never agree.

The rich Conservatives would not agree, but the Liberals would.

 

[Jasmina]

As someone who manages, you can't generalize. I have seen both types in my hiring. Some who want to work, and even accept less than their worth, for a job they enjoy, to seeing those who claim to want to work but turn down a good job because Cerb/UI was paying more. There are all types, even in "developed" Countries...

They're mostly just lazy and have no interest in working, the end......I'm talking developed country people.

 

[Jasmina]

It is absolutely systemic. And also, intentional, if we all had a fair shot, who would deal coke to the uber rich? Who would work timmies drive through, just because they love the job? No one. They need poverty.

Well with a pandemic going on crime is just going to get worse. Not only will you have the poorest of the poor looking to survive , but you will see middle class drop down to being poor and desperately trying to survive.

 

[Claudia Love]

It is absolutely systemic. And also, intentional, if we all had a fair shot, who would deal coke to the uber rich? Who would work timmies drive through, just because they love the job? No one. They need poverty.

Retired folks looking to get out of the house part time would do those jobs.
The coke dealers aren't poor. They just take a higher risk for getting caught with the law.

 

[Darts]

I'm from a family of "modest means" (i.e. we didn't have money). How poor you ask? We were so poor my mom (bless her heart) took in boarders. We lived in rural Quebec where we grew vegetables/fruits, hunt and fish for games and our neighbor farmers raised livestock. I actually went to work part-time on my friend's farm when I was 8 (it wasn't real work, friend's father just being nice).

Now I live in a house with a "coach house" in the rear. No, there are no horses (maybe in the past). Yes, it has all the modern conveniences. I go there when I need my "private time and private pleasures". (I met many successful people who came from humble circumstances. So, yes it can be done.)

Life lesson #1: Just because you were born poor doesn't mean you have to stay poor.
Life lesson #3: Just because you were born poor doesn't mean you have to stay poor.

Life lesson #2: Be nice to people because you never know. When I was attending McGill, the commute was killing me (no, no Internet classes a hundred years ago). I befriended a student from a rich Singapore family. He was shy (especially around females)., didn't speak English very well and didn't know the city at all.

Long story short. We became good friends. He had a two bedroom apartment near campus and a car. So, I ended up living in one of the bedrooms and driving his car more than he did because he didn't know the city and didn't know how to drive in the snow and ice of a Montreal Winter. Yes, his rich Singapore family made sure he always had plenty of money. (Remember that Asian guy with the high end cars who was kidnapped? You get the idea.)

 

[Jasmina]

They start somewhere...

Retired folks looking to get out of the house part time would do those jobs.
The coke dealers aren't poor. They just take a higher risk for getting caught with the law.

 

[Jasmina]

Sounds like you had a lot of help and luck along the way.

I'm from a family of "modest means" (i.e. we didn't have money). How poor you ask? We were so poor my mom (bless her heart) took in boarders. We lived in rural Quebec where we grew vegetables/fruits, hunt and fish for games and our neighbor farmers raised livestock. I actually went to work part-time on my friend's farm when I was 8 (it wasn't real work, friend's father just being nice).

Now I live in a house with a "coach house" in the rear. No, there are no horses (maybe in the past). Yes, it has all the modern conveniences. I go there when I need my "private time and private pleasures". (I met many successful people who came from humble circumstances. So, yes it can be done.)

Life lesson #1: Just because you were born poor doesn't mean you have to stay poor.
Life lesson #3: Just because you were born poor doesn't mean you have to stay poor.

Life lesson #2: Be nice to people because you never know. When I was attending McGill, the commute was killing me (no, no Internet classes a hundred years ago). I befriended a student from a rich Singapore family. He was shy (especially around females)., didn't speak English very well and didn't know the city at all.

Long story short. We became good friends. He had a two bedroom apartment near campus and a car. So, I ended up living in one of the bedrooms and driving his car more than he did because he didn't know the city and didn't know how to drive in the snow and ice of a Montreal Winter. Yes, his rich Singapore family made sure he always had plenty of money. (Remember that Asian guy with the high end cars who was kidnapped? You get the idea.)

 

[Ceiling Cat]

It was just reported on the CTV national news that one in three households in Canada do not have enough money to make it to the end of the month and are taking on debt due to the economic environment. This must be true if not even worse for the USA and other countries. Will society deteriorate into more crime and violence due to current world conditions?

 

[Mr.Know-It-All]

It is absolutely systemic. And also, intentional, if we all had a fair shot, who would deal coke to the uber rich? Who would work timmies drive through, just because they love the job? No one. They need poverty.

Who are "they"? Are you including yourself in "they"? How do you expect to get served at Tim Hortons?

Visit a sweatshop in China where kids are making the products that you buy and suddenly you realize that you're "they".

 

[kherg007]

There are people who can do the maths, and at times it costs less to pay for certain programs than it does to pay for incarceration. Sometimes it doesn't, I think the public could be involved more in these discussions to say how much things costs, and where are you willing to pay and where not.

 

[Scholar]

As someone who manages, you can't generalize. I have seen both types in my hiring. Some who want to work, and even accept less than their worth, for a job they enjoy, to seeing those who claim to want to work but turn down a good job because Cerb/UI was paying more. There are all types, even in "developed" Countries...

I'll disagree with part of this. A good job pays more than $2,000 a month.

 

[Jasmina]

When I say good job, I refer to the work environment as much, if not more, than the wage.

I'll disagree with part of this. A good job pays more than $2,000 a month.

 

[Jasmina]

I am absolutely aware of my privilege.

That said, do you think I initially chose sex work because I am just an absolute slut? No, I initially chose it because I found myself in a corner and needed money, fast.

Survival sex work is real, and a prime example of what this thread is about.

Who are "they"? Are you including yourself in "they"? How do you expect to get served at Tim Hortons?

Visit a sweatshop in China where kids are making the products that you buy and suddenly you realize that you're "they".