Agreed.
There is no place for underage girls in the hobby, or those who look for them.
Keep it clean and between consenting adults.
York Region men caught up in underage prostitute sting
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There is no place for underage girls in the hobby, or those who look for them.
Keep it clean and between consenting adults.
Ya I doubt many underaged girls could handle this line of work - mentally, emotionally, psychologically, physical. It takes a lot of maturity to get into it and make it out alive in those categories.
This is why when I have kids at some point I want ONLY boys. :frusty:
Yeah, but....
As dirkd above said, between "consenting adults" is of no bearing. Those who seek out sex via payment in Canada (with a person over the age of 18) are breaking THE LAW and are exposing themselves to being arrested, tried, and convicted complete with a criminal record.
Just because it's "consenting adults" doesn't mean that you are safe to engage in paying for sex. Granted, the 16 years of age thing is entirely different ball park, however, the fact of the matter is that thanks to the Harper conservatives, this hobby is illegal. So keep that in mind and be very careful with whom you decide to partake.
I agree the Liberals will not spend Political capital on reforming C-36 .... just too controversial & damaging to them to bring it up.
Second up in York region, you just never know , very possible the cops will have lots of time on their hands to start doing stings at Hotels.
ALSO a friend of mine is head of security at one of the big Hotels in York region. Warning Guys: With the new law, the brand name Hotels are more nervous about their reputation with regards to turning a blind eye to escort business going on in their Hotel & thus will be working more with Police to flush out & discourage this kind of business on their property. Until C-36 changes I see in the future Hotels as a not so safe & cool place to be visiting escorts. I am sticking to condos & houses. Also going to stay out of York region!
Second up in York region, you just never know , very possible the cops will have lots of time on their hands to start doing stings at Hotels.
ALSO a friend of mine is head of security at one of the big Hotels in York region. Warning Guys: With the new law, the brand name Hotels are more nervous about their reputation with regards to turning a blind eye to escort business going on in their Hotel & thus will be working more with Police to flush out & discourage this kind of business on their property. Until C-36 changes I see in the future Hotels as a not so safe & cool place to be visiting escorts. I am sticking to condos & houses. Also going to stay out of York region!
Many years ago I was in Calgary and decided to use an escort service to the hotel. Gave my description of my tastes, young/underage was not one of my criteria. Arrangements were made and on the appointed hour, knock on the hotel room door. Opened it up and there was a very young girl standing there. I was shocked....I was pretty sure she was only 16 or perhaps even younger. I asked her for id but of course she wouldn't give it to me....so for the only time in my long hobbying career, I sent her away. Phoned the agency and told them it wasn't the girls fault, but she was not what I wanted. They offered to send someone else, but by then I had it with them, went to bed and slept well knowing I did the right thing. To this day I still wonder whatever became of that girl...
To me this is absolutely important and if true throw the book at them. When you are dealing with 16 years and up it can be physically impossible to differentiate some late teen girls from girls in their early twenties. While many guys here say there is no way they would engage sex with someone under 18 - how far would you get if you started asking to see drivers licences as proof ?
This is yet another reason that Harper's prostitution law has championed right wing moral values over the safety of women and minors alike. This wouldn't be as big of an issue if prostitution wasn't forced underground.
I'm not condoning what they did by any means and think it is disgusting but but aren't the police using entrapment to lure these guys in and in that case it will be thrown out of court. If it sends a message to other men then it has served a good purpose.
Illegal to engage with an underage SP, but completely legal to bang a consensual 16 year old.
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Its because a 16-year old non-SP is unlikely to be coerced into sex by a pimp
Yes, I think the age of consent was raised from 14 to 16 a few years ago but do not pay him or her any money (money cannot change hands). It has to be for love and not money.
York Region --- the police sex crackdown started circa 2004 due to the spa murders.
If these guys actually know about the girls being underage prior to getting to the location they deserve to have the book thrown at them.
Since C-36 I always say if the ad says text only stay as far away as possible as things are a lot easier to prove via text rather than phone conversation (I personally stay away from contacting anyone via text that I have not seen before). Just imagine if you texted this girl then found out she is underage and did not see her, the cops now have your information.
But again with saying that the guys that actually proceeded and wanted to see this girl after finding out she was underage should be prosecuted.
Since C-36 I always say if the ad says text only stay as far away as possible as things are a lot easier to prove via text rather than phone conversation (I personally stay away from contacting anyone via text that I have not seen before). Just imagine if you texted this girl then found out she is underage and did not see her, the cops now have your information.
But again with saying that the guys that actually proceeded and wanted to see this girl after finding out she was underage should be prosecuted.
So basically the cops are posting these ads, the guys enter the location and are promptly arrested by police based on language in the ad? Arent most ads full of embellishment anyway?
I see nothing wrong with what York Region cops are doing here. The men clearly knew they were meeting with underage girls and the Cops are using the laws on the books to arrest them. Thankfully, 80-90% of the men bailed when they found out they were underage. Bust the ones who agreed to meet. Some men were told the girls were as young as 13. Interesting that this is the first time this has been done in Canada.
I would also like to see the Cops trying to bust the pimps but I guess it's not as easy.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the Cops have been enforcing C-36 by arresting consenting adults.
I would also like to see the Cops trying to bust the pimps but I guess it's not as easy.
That is so true. My friend's 16 year old daughter is DDG at 6' - 130 lbs. with ample breasts, curves and she sure as hell knows it. She's also an extremely smart girl and acts years above her age. So I can see how guys could be fooled by looks but when you're told you're meeting a 15 year old and go through with it, I have no sympathy for you whatsoever.
Even if prostitution was legal, it wouldn't stop some men from seeking sex with minors.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the Cops have been enforcing C-36 by arresting consenting adults.
The men were clearly told they were communicating with girls 13-16 years of age and made plans to meet for the purposes of having sex (for a fee I presume). Not what I would call entrapment and I imagine the charges will stick.
Hopefully she's consensually banging a lucky 16 year old boy, not some middle aged hobbyist.
I agree that there will be always perverts but independent if or when LE choose to enforce it, prostitution is now illegal and it is this murky world of a much in demand underground industry that the underage sexual pimping can survive undetected. Two reasons I can see this Harper bill is bad are that SP's are reluctant to report abuse and that police looking at all underground activities must waste more efforts locating the exploited kids. If prostitution was legal, more effort could be focused on the illegal exploitation of minors instead of random raids in strip joints (for example) to catch consenting adults in a natural act.
Again, correct me if I'm wrong but I haven't seen any evidence LE is spending much time enforcing C-36. That is the sex for money between (of age) consenting adults part of it.
We could see more busts now even those targeting consenting adults as cops try to prove c36 is a good law and should not be repealed:
http://www.am980.ca/2015/11/10/65459/
They're up on charges of Human trafficking which is the trade of humans, most commonly for the purpose of sexual slavery or commercial sexual exploitation for the trafficker. Doesn't sound like a case of consenting adults paying for sex. I'm sure there's more to this story than they're letting on.
Something tells me they wouldn't have needed C-36 to lay charges in this case.
