WTF, pulling out actually works??

[smiley1437]

http://www.alternet.org/sex/140794/coitus_interruptus_erroneous:_would_you_believe_that_pulling_out_actually_works/

Summary:

1. Recent research shows that condoms, used perfectly, have a 2% failure rate. In comparison, pulling out has only a 4% failure rate!

So, certainly worth a shot (har har) if you didn't use a glove.


2. We're all taught that pre-cum is loaded with sperm. Apparently this is a misconception, there is little or no sperm in pre-cum.

Wow. Just...wow. It's like all that sex ed I was taught is wrong. Probably well-intentioned, I guess, but inaccurate.

Of course, only do this with fluid-bonded partners and it's still safer in general with a condom and proper birth control, but hey, you can tell the SO that the pearl necklace is just good practice

 

[smiley1437]

hardly a credible source of information for scientific facts.

Though the site I linked to certainly may be bonkers, the article they are quoting in turn is from Rachel Jones of the Guttmacher institute. Article is here:

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/journals/reprints/Contraception79-407-410.pdf

Authors are:

Julie Fennell: Sociology Dept, Central Connecticut State University, New Britain, CT 06050
Jenny A. Higgins: Office of Population Research, Wallace Hall, Princeton University, Princeton, NJ 08544
Kelly Blanchard: Ibis Reproductive Health, Cambridge, MA 02138

These people seem to have some credentials, however, I understand the desire for extraordinary proof for such an extraordinary claim that runs counter to everything we were taught in sex ed -- which is why I posted the thread.

 

[S.C. Joe]

It can be done but I think its not taught because each guy has different amounts of control...I found I have a little less as I get older. Plus many enjoy to have a few drinks before-which makes it even harder to control.

But I started off like that and far as I know none became PG

 

[james t kirk]

I practiced pulling out for 4 years with a GF.

You have to be good, but it does work. Never even a scare.

 

[xix]

to try , not to try

condoms are mostly for STI protection. there is a BIG misconsection about how easy it is to get pregnant. all the movies and tv stories about one-night stand turns into pregnancy or poke a hole on condom only once then the girl is pregnant. it's all 99% lies man! My ex and I had unprotected sex for 5 months, every other day before she got pregnant (yes we were trying). We were initially surprised even disappointed after 2 months she didn't get pregnant. I thought either of us had something wrong, and got checked, nothing we both were perfectly healthy. humans dont get pregnant that easily. some stats say healthy couples usually takes 6 - 12 months of trying before getting pregnant...

Life is funny. If you are trying to have a baby, it never works or have to wait.
If you are not trying at all and only go for 5min quicky with some total stranger, Wham you are a father/mother in 9 months.
Those who try ....nope.

Life is always the opposite.

 

[Lou Siffer]

Pulling out...

our only method of birth control for about 15 years. Two kids were both intentional.

Not sure I would recommend it, we were very comfortable with the possible consequences.

 

[BoringBob]

http://www.alternet.org/sex/140794/coitus_interruptus_erroneous:_would_you_believe_that_pulling_out_actually_works/

Summary:

1. Recent research shows that condoms, used perfectly, have a 2% failure rate. In comparison, pulling out has only a 4% failure rate!

So, certainly worth a shot (har har) if you didn't use a glove.


2. We're all taught that pre-cum is loaded with sperm. Apparently this is a misconception, there is little or no sperm in pre-cum.

Wow. Just...wow. It's like all that sex ed I was taught is wrong. Probably well-intentioned, I guess, but inaccurate.

Of course, only do this with fluid-bonded partners and it's still safer in general with a condom and proper birth control, but hey, you can tell the SO that the pearl necklace is just good practice

Bareback anything, except perhaps with a partner that you know you are 100% exclusive with, is a major ass risk.

So the numbers may be correct, but they fail to address what would be the shift in numbers of STDs and other issues.

 

[C Dick]

The main reason pulling out does not work for birth control, is because you change your mind and do not pull out. At least I do. Perhaps if you were really into facials or something like that, it would work.

 

[Lou Siffer]

Perhaps if you were really into facials or something like that, it would work.

Ah, the secret to my success!

 

[Nickelodeon]

Can't this study be used to promote facials?

 

[oldjones]

It always did work, and pre-cum has always had some sperm in it. It's all just comparing the odds and imagining—or hoping—there's a birth control method as black and white as, "My God, I see a baby's head coming out!"

Some times the rabbit lives and some women never realize they're pregnant. It's all odds making and the only 100%er is you will die. Living's all about the unknowable When.

What more could a guy ask for?

 

[Questor]

My ex and I had unprotected sex for 5 months, every other day before she got pregnant (yes we were trying). We were initially surprised even disappointed after 2 months she didn't get pregnant. I thought either of us had something wrong, and got checked, nothing we both were perfectly healthy. humans dont get pregnant that easily. some stats say healthy couples usually takes 6 - 12 months of trying before getting pregnant...

You do know that it makes a difference what hole you go to? The really tight one at the back is not for reproductive purposes.

 

[Bear669]

Yup

It can be done but I think its not taught because each guy has different amounts of control...I found I have a little less as I get older. Plus many enjoy to have a few drinks before-which makes it even harder to control.

But I started off like that and far as I know none became PG

I may be repeating here, but my sex ed (dawn of time) made it clear that the CONTROL was the main issue with pull out, and there may be little sperm in pre-cum, but why take the chance? AND sperm can swim around for a while in Mr Happy, then surf out on the NEXT pre-shot.