Would I be charged if...?

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tarkovsky

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So, I'm in a rush, after work, walking through a store and this old guy cuts me off. He's taking his time so I go around him and he mutters under his breath "you fuck..." so I turn around and say "WHAT?" and he sheepishly says he was talking to himself.

Another time, a homeless guy was in a bar and grabbed my gf's ass.

In both cases I didn't beat the snot out of the guys but I would've and could've.

If someone called the cops, I'd be the one charged right?? Does anyone know what the law is?
 
tarkovsky said:
So, I'm in a rush, after work, walking through a store and this old guy cuts me off. He's taking his time so I go around him and he mutters under his breath "you fuck..." so I turn around and say "WHAT?" and he sheepishly says he was talking to himself.

Another time, a homeless guy was in a bar and grabbed my gf's ass.

In both cases I didn't beat the snot out of the guys but I would've and could've.

If someone called the cops, I'd be the one charged right?? Does anyone know what the law is?
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You would be toast

Always be a man and show the way and not the options
 
throw a punch, gets charged for assault. And believe me, the whole process isnt worth it.
 
First instance, you were a fuck. Be considerate of old slow guys.

Second instance, you should be proud of having a girlfriend with an ass people like to grab. You should have just nodded and smiled to him, then bought him a drink. He's homeless and probably needs it.
 
If she has a fine ass, the police would understand if someone grabbed it.
They'd probably nod and smile at the homeless guy, maybe slip him a few bucks for a meal.
 
If someone grabs your gf's ass that is sexual assault. You could press charges. But if you hit him you would get charged with assault.

With the verbal stuff, just say something mean back. It's not against the law unless its slander, racial or some form of hate crime.
 
I agree, sticking a finger up her ass is too far. Grabbing a tit is rude.
I'd slice off his head and kick it across the bar!

But grabbing a fine ass, that's just showing appreciation.
 
Brill said:
I agree, sticking a finger up her ass is too far. Grabbing a tit is rude.
I'd slice off his head and kick it across the bar!

But grabbing a fine ass, that's just showing appreciation.
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If some guy grabbed my ass, whether it was a hobo or not? I wouldn't need to wait for the boyfriend and would consider shoving my pointy boot directly into his crotch and call it self defense. I don't accept ass-grabbing a form of appreciation as far as I am concerned. Especially if it is not consensual.
 
Forget the white knight losers & their (hope the homeless ass grabber gets "the help he needs) WTF kind of PusSY-ass apologist crap is that?????

The only help he "needs' is the same kind of help anyone "needs" who acts the fool like that.... Pain deterrence.

However the legal advice on here does seem reasonable.... It's technically against the law so it Could give the government an excuse to ruin your life.... Logically, though laws like that are bullshit... there are government mandated consequences potentially & so while the "law" doesn't deserve any respect the potential consequences should be understood...

If you are %100 sure you will get away with it... a discrete shot or 2 can give the fuck a significant amount of "help" (jesus that liberal pussy shit never ceases to amaze me) he needs.... Hell if you're willing to take your chances... go for it but be sure to minimize your risks...

As for the old man though.... seriously... unless an old guy is a real physical threat for some reason let it go.... Think about it... He might have bad knees or fake legs & shit... If you think he's going slow do you really think the poor old bastard thinks he's racing along like he used to????

Seriously with all respect give your head a shake on the old guy.... eing old must suck big floppy donkey cock enough without people rushing them.... It's bound to make a man cranky & mouthy occasionally...


Again, "help he needs????" Seriously wtf is wrong with you?
 
It depends on your girl, who's else witnesses the ass grab and whatever after.
If you really wanted to beat the shit out of these kinds of people, its really really easy. I actually have a friend that is a bit of a psycho. He loves to fight, and during the city's garbage strike, he heard that an old man was being harassed by city workers at the garbage transfer stations. He went there with a crutch (faking being hurt), and boldly walked right pass the striking workers just so he might get into something with them. If they did confront him, it would have been something to see!!! He knows exactly what to do to kick some ass, and get away with it!!

Use your brain and try to have right on your side.

Cheers.
 
Rush

tarkovsky said:
So, I'm in a rush, after work, walking through a store and this old guy cuts me off. He's taking his time so I go around him and he mutters under his breath "you fuck..." so I turn around and say "WHAT?" and he sheepishly says he was talking to himself.

Another time, a homeless guy was in a bar and grabbed my gf's ass.

In both cases I didn't beat the snot out of the guys but I would've and could've.

If someone called the cops, I'd be the one charged right?? Does anyone know what the law is?
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Well so you get cut off and you want to punch his lights out because he walks in front of you and your in a big hurry, its the city lots of people moving in stores malls streets ya being cut off in stores also and get pissed and so what he is old and one day you will be that old guy and some young punk will do the same so don't overreact to such a minor situation in the city life
 
LadyTY2Uall said:
shane.katz said:
Honey,,,,men pay big bucks to grab this ass

ROFLMAO It never ceases to amaze me how little time it takes before a bully resorts to personal insults when they feel themselves losing ground. I make it a personal rule not to get into verbal battles with children or the mentally disabled, take your choice as to which one I consider you. I hope they take it easy on in prison sweetheart cause I have no doubts whatsoever that you will end up there for good one day. Where will your wife and kids be then? Have a wonderful evening sunshine :D Ohhhh where is Jen when we need her?
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To be honest. I don't even talk to fat chicks so consider yourself blessed. I see fat chicks and my stomach goes upside down. I feel like using them as an over infalted punching bag. Fat people make me more upset than bad drivers. Bad drivers whoa re fat make me rage hard.
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shane.katz said:
Nope. First time. Don't like the board so want to go out with a bang and maybe give Bitch Smerf a broken jaw if he's serious.
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Right...

Your first post or two I thought you were a wit. I see I was only half right.
 
tarkovsky said:
So, I'm in a rush, after work, walking through a store and this old guy cuts me off. He's taking his time so I go around him and he mutters under his breath "you fuck..." so I turn around and say "WHAT?" and he sheepishly says he was talking to himself.

Another time, a homeless guy was in a bar and grabbed my gf's ass.

In both cases I didn't beat the snot out of the guys but I would've and could've.

If someone called the cops, I'd be the one charged right?? Does anyone know what the law is?
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Yes, and the simple answer is yes you will be charged.

A second simple answer, the old man was a pain and a bit of a jerk, (then again from his perspective you may have been as well) however, some day you will be his age as well, at the very most say 'that was a stupid comment, I'm sorry if I cut you off' and walk away.

A third simple answer, that is why we have police, you make a statement to the police, you don't engage in your own version of "ultimate fighting" - see the first point.

A fourth simple answer, there have been some other good pieces of advice but much bad advice hopefully you can tell the difference.
 
Well, thanks to everyone that gave actual advice although it's still not clear to me what the law would do regarding provocation. Do they take that into account?

And I should point out I'm in my late thirties and the "Old man" was a healthy man probably in his fifities (not some geriatric guy with crutches). He initially cut me off and then has the nerve to call me a "fuck".

Regarding the ass touching thing, Sheik said he would grab the guy's throat. Isn't that like strangling? How is that different from a punch? So you can't be charged with assault with pushing or strangling?

If the other guy throws the first punch then I can claim "self-defense". Is this true? Can I go medieval on the guy if he punches me first?

Whatever happened to men settling their differences like men or protecting the honour of their women. So I gather, you'll get charged, have time in jail, have a criminal record and probably get sued by the other party. Over a single punch.
 
spankingman said:
Take a DEEP BREATH and don't sweat the small stuff in life.
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OK... so I know why this thread was seriously "pruned", that guy was a serious dickhead! :rolleyes: But why was my first post deleted? I thought I gave some real solid advice in my first post.

Don't sweat the small things boys, you'll live a longer and happier life.
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Aardvark154 said:
Yes, and the simple answer is yes you will be charged.
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Well, the simple answer you posted above isn't quite accurate. A number of conditions would have to occur in order for the OP to be charged:

1) The police would have to be called
2) The police would actually have to arrive before the OP left
3) Someone would have to detain the OP as he is throwing the punch because (according to fuji) if someone tries to detain him after he has thrown the punch, the ones doing the detaining would be charged and the op would get a reduced sentence for being a witness. According to fuji, one has to be caught during the commission of a crime, not after it has occurred.....
4) The police would actually have to decide to press charges after hearing the whole story. In fact, if the ass grabber stuck around, he could be charged with sexual assault.

Frankly, if anyone grabbed my GF's ass at the very least they'd get a couple of broken fingers. Sure you can call me a vigilante but I am old school and NO one touches my gf without her permission.......

As for the old guy, I wouldn't touch him but I would turn around and say "excuse me"????
 
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