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Workout Supplements in Toronto

What's Your Take on Supplements?

  • I love them and swear by their results

    Votes: 2 40.0%
  • They suck and don't do anything..waste of $$$

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I only use protein and just because it's convenient

    Votes: 2 40.0%
  • Fuji is right and I swear by what he says

    Votes: 1 20.0%
  • It's a combination of everything

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
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fuji

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I don't know what protein is sold at Walmart but at costco I have bought Eas protein and kaizen which is isolate. 35 grms protein per serving http://kaizenprotein.com/nutrition.html both good quality.
Again, skim milk is cheaper, and if you read the label, has much the same ingredients. Well, in the case of skim milk the ingredients are all natural.
 

blaze69

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I don't know why people spend money on BS test boosters from Popeye's and GNC when you can get the real stuff and actually know what your putting in your body.
 

lamgos

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protein supplements damage internal organs over time, have a tuna sandwich
 

larry

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I agree. I have been taking huge amounts of protein the last 10 years due to my work out schedule. I currently have liver damage. We went through history with all sorts of doctors and I never used anything that would endanger my liver. Only thing was huge amounts of whey etc. I have reversed the damage by following a moderate protein diet and cutting out "liquid" protein completely.
"protein supplements" don't hurt you. the amount you take can. there's a big difference. depending on how much and what you eat, also linked to how much resistance exercise you do, you may benefit from taking extra protein. you could eat some meat, drink some milk, or mix the powder.

if you take too much, it's your own fault. don't blame the supplement. even super-bodybuilders only recommend a gram or protein per lb of lean body mass. and as soon as you mention "liquid protein"...really? no kidding? unless you were an early adopter everybody knows that's a big no-no.
 

5hummer

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I don't know why people spend money on BS test boosters from Popeye's and GNC when you can get the real stuff and actually know what your putting in your body.
Sure, if you like sticking needles in your butt ...
 

Terminator2000

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hijacking this thread.

any of you long time bodybuilders know how to get fat? i've tried everything. eating excess amounts of food. peanut butter. and then more peanut butter. Nothing works. I haven't tried that weightgain stuff. been told its nothing but sugar.
 

assholee

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Read the label. It's not just caffeine in NO-Xplode, there is a long list of ingredients
I said its just a stimulant LIKE caffeine, meaning they are not anymore harmful than just a basic stimulant

your name does describe you well. thanks for the help.
I am helping you. Most supplements are gimmicks. You don't need a pre-workout. The effects of NO2 and arginine is basicly none.

Background: Arginine-alpha-ketoglutarate (AAKG) supplements are alleged to increase nitric oxide production, thereby resulting in vasodilation during resistance exercise. This study sought to determine the effects of AAKG supplementation on hemodynamics and brachial-artery blood flow and the circulating levels of L-arginine, nitric oxide metabolites (NOx; nitrate/nitrite), asymmetric dimethyl arginine (ADMA), and L-arginine:ADMA ratio after resistance exercise. Methods: Twenty-four physically active men underwent 7 days of AAKG supplementation with 12 g/day of either NO<sub>2</sub> Platinum or placebo (PLC). Before and after supplementation, a resistance-exercise session involving the elbow flexors was performed involving 3 sets of 15 repetitions with 70-75% of 1-repetition maximum. Data were collected immediately before, immediately after (PST), and 30 min after (30PST) each exercise session. Data were analyzed with factorial ANOVA (p < .05). Results: Heart rate, blood pressure, and blood flow were increased in both groups at PST (p = .001) but not different between groups. Plasma L-arginine was increased in the NO<sub>2</sub> group (p = .001). NOx was shown to increase in both groups at PST (p = .001) and at 30PST (p = .001) but was not different between groups. ADMA was not affected between tests (p = .26) or time points (p = .31); however, the L-arginine:ADMA ratio was increased in the NO<sub>2</sub> group (p = .03). Conclusion: NO<sub>2</sub> Platinum increased plasma L-arginine levels; however, the effects observed in hemodynamics, brachial-artery blood flow, and NOx can only be attributed to the resistance exercise.
 

assholee

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hijacking this thread.

any of you long time bodybuilders know how to get fat? i've tried everything. eating excess amounts of food. peanut butter. and then more peanut butter. Nothing works. I haven't tried that weightgain stuff. been told its nothing but sugar.
Yep. I'm bulking too atm. You need to calculate the macros needed that your body needs + excess cals to bulk. Most people think "Omg im eating so much but not gaining anything" simply aren't eating enough.
In reality, you have to eat even when you are not hungry.
I make easy meals, one example:

1 can tuna mixed with 2 tsb mayo, into a sub bun.
Canned tuna: 240 cals
mayo:130 cals
Bread: 190 cals
Total cals: 560 with ~43G of protein

Then I eat again 2-3 hour after. I add a protein shake or banana or rice pudding cup after some meals for extra cals. At the end of the day I try to have around 5 meals on average.
 

assholee

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Again, skim milk is cheaper, and if you read the label, has much the same ingredients. Well, in the case of skim milk the ingredients are all natural.
I wouldn't replace protein powder with skim milk. 1 glass of skim milk is less than 10 grams of protein. Some people are lactose intolerant. Milk isn't portable (IE. Kept in the gym bag all day until your work out is done).
I could mix my protein isolate into less than half a cup of water and drink it for 35G of protein and 130 cals. In addition, protein isolates are already broken down and the body can absorb it more readily
 

larry

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Yep. I'm bulking too atm. You need to calculate the macros needed that your body needs + excess cals to bulk...
exactly. nothing to it. calculate what you need to eat. then eat it. done. it helps to check frequently to make sure you're gaining weight as you wish. if you're not gaining, adjust your intake and go for it. if gaining too fast, cut back a bit. it's the same as losing weight. have a goal, have a plan, execute it. check progress and adjust as required.

this isn't hard.
 

5hummer

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You knock MIlk etc. But what do you think those "protein isolates" are made out of? Do you use Soy? Egg? Hemp? Some new protein no one has heard of?
Unless your lactose intolerant, then milk is a no-no.
But, whey & yogurt are edible for someone lactose intolerant
 

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I wouldn't replace protein powder with skim milk. 1 glass of skim milk is less than 10 grams of protein. Some people are lactose intolerant. Milk isn't portable (IE. Kept in the gym bag all day until your work out is done).
I could mix my protein isolate into less than half a cup of water and drink it for 35G of protein and 130 cals. In addition, protein isolates are already broken down and the body can absorb it more readily
This nonsense about "isolates are already broken down and the body can absorb it more readily" is a pile of BS. To properly absorb protein you need the right factors present, various vitamins and minerals to go along with the protein, to make it usable.

Guess what milk has in pretty much exactly the right proportions? To replicate the vitamins and minerals that milk delivers along with the protein you'd have to go get a science degree and work out the right proportion of artificial vitamins to go along with your artificial protein. Maybe you will get it right. Maybe not. Or you could just drink milk, which is a hell of a lot cheaper anyway.

You do know that milk is the product of a million year process of evolution and nature resolving the basic problem, "how to bulk up and grow as fast as possible", i.e., what growing babies and children do, doubling or even tripling their body mass in a year by drinking milk. It's pretty much the ideal "bulk up fast" food, and your body was made for it. (Well, the human version, but the cow version is pretty close.)

And why go all NASA and try and condense it all into a delivery system with less water weight? Are you worried about lifting the extra water weight into orbit? Last time I checked you sweat during a workout, it's not like you don't need the liquids!

OK--if you are working out in the jungle far from any refrigeration system, or on the top of some mountain, the fact that you have to keep your milk cool might be a problem, it might be easier to pack in your protein powder in your back pack--but I am guessing you'd have a bit more difficulty packing in your free weights. Most people don't have too much trouble finding a fridge or a convenience store.
 
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