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Workout Supplements in Toronto

What's Your Take on Supplements?

  • I love them and swear by their results

    Votes: 2 40.0%
  • They suck and don't do anything..waste of $$$

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I only use protein and just because it's convenient

    Votes: 2 40.0%
  • Fuji is right and I swear by what he says

    Votes: 1 20.0%
  • It's a combination of everything

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    5
  • Poll closed .
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What's nonsense is worrying about trace elements of fat in skim milk. Also nonsense is the belief that you need quick absorbing protein in order to build muscle--your body has quite a supply of the stuff. You just need to keep it replenished. It's not like there's none of it available for muscle construction until you take your supplement!!

The whole "theory" behind these supplements is unscientific bullshit propagated by the people who sell the junk. It's about as plausible as your average hoax diet.
so is what you are saying is that the people who push these "supplements" are like this guy....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jF_yLodI1CQ
 

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so is what you are saying is that the people who push these "supplements" are like this guy....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jF_yLodI1CQ
Yup!

Why do these supplements sell? Because people who are into weightlifting put a lot into it. It hurts. It's hard work. They want it to be as rewarding as possible, so they are searching around for some magic. Well there's no magic, other than say stereoids. If you want to get bigger you need to lift weight, rest, and eat healthy food. That's it. It's too simple, and some people want magic, and so other people will sell them magic--but there's no magic. Just hard work.
 
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Yup!

Why do these supplements sell? Because people who are into weightlifting put a lot into it. It hurts. It's hard work. They want it to be as rewarding as possible, so they are searching around for some magic. Well there's no magic, other than say stereoids. If you want to get bigger you need to lift weight, rest, and eat healthy food. That's it. It's too simple, and some people want magic, and so other people will sell them magic--but there's no magic. Just hard work.

ok then, what would you consider a healthy diet of food to become big and muscular? What do you eat?
 

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ok then, what would you consider a healthy diet of food to become big and muscular? What do you eat?
I think pretty much everyone knows what a healthy diet is. In my opinion there isn't that big a difference between an ordinary healthy diet, and an ordinary healthy diet for weight lifting. Just bump up the protein content--more milk, eggs, and meats, and less starches, but within the context of what any good nutrionist would tell you to eat.

What you do in the gym will make a hell of a lot more of a difference than what you do in the kitchen, honestly. The differences in your menu choices are going to make only a few percentage differences in your muscle building. The difference in your muscle gain between eating "normal healthy diet" and "high protein healthy diet" will be a lot smaller than you think. It'll make a difference, but not much of one. Going from "crap junk food diet" to "healthy diet" would be much more significant--but probably mostly because you'd have more energy and feel healthier and therefore be able to put more into your workout.

The difference between a high protein healthy diet, and supplements? I think zero. Maybe the supplements are worse, since your vitamins and minerals will more likely be out of proportion.
 

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OK. So now we're making progress. "Just bump up the protein content--more milk, eggs, and meats". Ok. And what if the lifter doesn't have the time or inclination to make his/her own meals and doesn't want to eat the crap meats available at fast food/restaurants? And they want to have 200 grams of protein a day? What to do? use something that we call supplements?

I guess so. Good idea in fact. Clean, convenient, low fat, low lactose, cheap. No downside.
 

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And what if the lifter doesn't have the time or inclination to make his/her own meals and doesn't want to eat the crap meats available at fast food/restaurants?
If you don't have time to eat properly, don't expect good health outcomes, of any kind. It's kind of retarded to spend hours in the gym and then skip the healthy eating bit. Entirely counter-productive, don't you think?

If you aren't eating a healthy diet then it's going to hit your energy levels, and you're going to be lifting less, which is going to have a MUCH bigger impact.
 
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