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Will you take the COVID-19 vaccine?

Will you take the COVID-19 vaccine?

  • Yes, as soon as possible

    Votes: 220 57.7%
  • Yes, but I do not want to be among the first to take it.

    Votes: 68 17.8%
  • Maybe

    Votes: 17 4.5%
  • Not Sure

    Votes: 21 5.5%
  • Absolutely not

    Votes: 50 13.1%
  • I do not care if I do or don't

    Votes: 5 1.3%

  • Total voters
    381
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sp free

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That’s fucking awful. I’m sure she either believed in the vaccine or was pushed into it by her employer. Of course the usual suspects around here that maximize every Covid death will naturally minimize yet another vaccine related injury / death and I’ll still not get it, or let my children get it.

Life goes on, unless you’re one of the victims.
 

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That’s fucking awful. I’m sure she either believed in the vaccine or was pushed into it by her employer. Of course the usual suspects around here that maximize every Covid death will naturally minimize yet another vaccine related injury / death and I’ll still not get it, or let my children get it.

Life goes on, unless you’re one of the victims.
Like the 450,000 covid victims that have died in the US? You wax so hypocritically poetic. You minimize deaths from a virus yet play up deaths, that may or may not be attributable to the virus (most likely the latter), to a vaccine with will benefit people in the million fold compared to possible adverse reactions. Seriously, your sense of magnitudes of outcomes are seriously fucked up.
 

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According to the Daily Mail UK,

“Covid-19 vaccines are set to be tested on children and potentially even newborns.


AstraZeneca, which produces the Oxford vaccine, says it is expanding trials to children as young as six, and The Mail on Sunday can reveal that fellow vaccine maker Janssen, part of Johnson and Johnson, is now looking into testing on newborn babies and even pregnant women… The trials are likely to take place in the US and Canada.”
 

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Catching the coof and dying is unfortunate. Intentionally injecting experimental gene therapy into your body is another matter entirely.

I’ll take my chances with my immune system.

 

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Catching the coof and dying is unfortunate. Intentionally injecting experimental gene therapy into your body is another matter entirely.

I’ll take my chances with my immune system.

If the coof gets you I hope they do not inscribe goof on your headstone! LMAO
 

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78-Year-Old SoCal Woman Dies After Receiving First Dose of COVID Vaccine



POMONA (CBSLA) — A 78-year-old Southern California woman died on Friday after receiving the first dose of the COVID-19 vaccine.

The patient got the injection of the Pfizer vaccine around 12 p.m. at the COVID-19 vaccination site located at Cal Poly Pomona, according to Dr. Michael E. Morris, physician director of Kaiser Permanente Southern California’s COVID-19 Vaccination Program.

78-Year-Old SoCal Woman Dies After Receiving First Dose of COVID Vaccine – CBS Los Angeles (cbslocal.com)
 

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Catching the coof and dying is unfortunate. Intentionally injecting experimental gene therapy into your body is another matter entirely.

I’ll take my chances with my immune system.

Gene therapy???????????????

"Tell me you know nothing about science, without telling me you know nothing about science...."
 
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Cityside15

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Gene Therapy - mutating a gene in your DNA, inactivating a gene in your DNA, or introducing a new gene into your DNA.

mRNA vaccines, and specifically introducing foreign mRNA into a cell does NOT cause it to integrate into your genome. It is actually impossible because mRNA is not DNA, so they don't match. Furthermore, the mRNA doesn't get into the nucleus, if you want to be even more specific, so that also prevents that issue. the mRNA simply allows your cells to produce the protein it encodes, in this case, the spike protein from the virus that causes COVID-19. The protein itself is 100% useless, doesn't do a thing, and just gets broken down again. Your immune system recognizes it as foreign and creates the immunity to it. The mRNA that was introduced into your cells, quickly degrades as well, so no, you aren't always producing this protein from the virus.

There are literally MILLIONS of people world wide that have this in them, and we don't see anything worse than what is normally expected from vaccines.

Gene therapy quoted in this article is being used as a large catch phrase, like Americans say "Americans" but really, they mean just one thing. :)

It is safe, put in it in your arm, stop being a science denier. The fact you are on this board, tells me you PROBABLY see SP's. That is 10000x more riskier and carries way more risk of catching something "bad".

Ironic isn't it?
 

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Gene Therapy - mutating a gene in your DNA, inactivating a gene in your DNA, or introducing a new gene into your DNA.

mRNA vaccines, and specifically introducing foreign mRNA into a cell does NOT cause it to integrate into your genome. It is actually impossible because mRNA is not DNA, so they don't match. Furthermore, the mRNA doesn't get into the nucleus, if you want to be even more specific, so that also prevents that issue. the mRNA simply allows your cells to produce the protein it encodes, in this case, the spike protein from the virus that causes COVID-19. The protein itself is 100% useless, doesn't do a thing, and just gets broken down again. Your immune system recognizes it as foreign and creates the immunity to it. The mRNA that was introduced into your cells, quickly degrades as well, so no, you aren't always producing this protein from the virus.

There are literally MILLIONS of people world wide that have this in them, and we don't see anything worse than what is normally expected from vaccines.

Gene therapy quoted in this article is being used as a large catch phrase, like Americans say "Americans" but really, they mean just one thing. :)

It is safe, put in it in your arm, stop being a science denier. The fact you are on this board, tells me you PROBABLY see SP's. That is 10000x more riskier and carries way more risk of catching something "bad".

Ironic isn't it?

3 - 5 people died this week from taking this untested MRNA vaccine which is not approved by the FDA. we evolved with an immune system.

over 1000 people died from this untested medical procedure
 

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3 - 5 people died this week from taking this untested MRNA vaccine which is not approved by the FDA. we evolved with an immune system.

over 1000 people died from this untested medical procedure
Because we are vaccinating millions of people, yes, you will see DEATH in the group. but it isn't from teh vaccine!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You have to compare, how many people normally in the population die for example of heart attacks, and did MORE OR LESS OR THE SAME die of heart attacks with the vaccine group.

It amazes me that people just believe stupidity without any due diligence.

you know what vaccines did to our kids in the 1900's????????????????????????????????

Made them ADULTS!

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3 - 5 people died this week from taking this untested MRNA vaccine which is not approved by the FDA. we evolved with an immune system.

over 1000 people died from this untested medical procedure
I find it totally ironic that you are evoking EVOLUTION when denying the science of vaccination.....
 

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I find it totally ironic that you are evoking EVOLUTION when denying the science of vaccination.....

an MRNA jab is NOT vaccine. vaccines used a weakened form of viruses to generate immunity towards them
 

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an MRNA jab is NOT vaccine. vaccines used a weakened form of viruses to generate immunity towards them
Actually a mRNA jab is a vaccine as it confers immunity. A vaccine is anything that confers immunity to a particular virus/bacteria/disease. This statement is false, and shows a complete lack of understanding of science.
 

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Coming from an individual that has no degree or any specific training in medical, pharmaceutical or virology.
All you do is regurgitate mainstream talking points and write FAKE NEWS! in giant font for anything you can’t understand or refute.

Just take your L and walk.
 

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No, it isn't admitted. In fact, it 100% prevents the spread and reduces it. The studies coming out of Israel (who has the largest vaccinated population by % in the world) shows that viral load is reduced by at least 4-fold after just the FIRST of two shots. This means by definition that the likelihood of spread is way lower.

It is admitted though, that those that don't present facts and back them up, are wrong.

Pfizer's COVID-19 Vaccine Reduces Viral Load: Study | The Scientist Magazine® (the-scientist.com)

Decreased SARS-CoV-2 viral load following vaccination | medRxiv
 

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No, it isn't admitted. In fact, it 100% prevents the spread and reduces it. The studies coming out of Israel (who has the largest vaccinated population by % in the world) shows that viral load is reduced by at least 4-fold after just the FIRST of two shots. This means by definition that the likelihood of spread is way lower.

It is admitted though, that those that don't present facts and back them up, are wrong.

Pfizer's COVID-19 Vaccine Reduces Viral Load: Study | The Scientist Magazine® (the-scientist.com)

Decreased SARS-CoV-2 viral load following vaccination | medRxiv

and dozens of Israelis are killed by these same experimental MRNA vaccines which are not approved by the FDA yo are blindly defending.

This is not a vaccine - Israel National News


Our citizens must first and foremost define the discussion in order to accurately weigh their choices. What they are being asked to inject is not a vaccine as defined by the CDC as “A product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease.” [5] Rather, it is an experimental and novel technology. By definition of the FDA [6] as a component used as treatment to affect a body’s function, it is in fact a medical device, a physical device that comes in a molecular sized package. Erroneously referring to this intervention as a vaccine exploits the public's ingrained trust of the vaccination program to solicit knee jerk response and action. It keeps us entrenched in needless debate in place of taking the necessary measures to investigate the impact on our health.

DNA is, in short, the basis for our genetic structure. Inside each cell are codes which transfer its information to make proteins through messenger RNA. Messenger RNA is an intermediary between gene and protein and the protein elicits the immune response, not the RNA. The contents of this shot being given on an experimental basis is a synthetic messenger RNA that is inserted into the human system to activate the cell to manufacture, in this case, a spike protein. [7] An mRNA vaccine is not a vaccine, because it does not elicit an immune response. What it is, is genetic engineering.


There are a number of prominent concerns of serious adverse reactions of which include, in brief summary, some of the following:

In previous clinical trials since the 1960’s [8] attempts to vaccinate against RSV, [9] Dengue, [10] SARS and MERS, the studies each failed during the animal phase. Cats, ferrets, monkeys, and rabbits each and every time experienced Antibody Dependent Enhancement (ADE), also known as pathogenic priming or a cytokine storm. This occurs when the immune system creates an uncontrolled and overwhelming inflammatory response upon being confronted with the pathogen in the real world, and the outcome, tragically, is death. The same immune system overreaction took place in a number of infants in clinical trials who received an attempted RSV shot, as well as some six hundred Filipino children who died following early vaccination against Dengue [11] and it remains a viable concern today. [12]

Autoimmune disease occurs when the body's immune system can't tell the difference between its own cells and foreign cells, and causes the body to attack its normal cells. [13] It has been suggested that "molecular mimicry" may contribute to this problem, with antibodies to SARS-CoV-2 cross-reacting with structurally similar host protein sequences and raising an acute autoimmune response against them. [14]

Scientists have determined that the same spike protein found in SARS viruses are also responsible for the development of the placenta in mammals, including humans, and is therefore an essential prerequisite for a successful pregnancy. If a woman’s body is primed to attack these protein spikes, the immune system may prevent a placenta from being formed, which would render that woman infertile. [15]
 
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