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Will Harriet Miers be confirmed?

Will Harriet Miers be confirmed?

  • Yes

    Votes: 13 40.6%
  • No

    Votes: 13 40.6%
  • I don't know, I just hate Bush

    Votes: 6 18.8%

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Scarey

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Scary stuff

Everything in my mind tells me ROE VS WADE will be flipped on it's head within three years.I can't watch that person even give an address anymore, but he certainly is keeping politics interesting
 

TOVisitor

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Go ahead. Gloat at some piddling internal disunity, gloat while you still can and over what little you can- because when the new Bench gets around to restoring the original Constitution and the laws, you won't be gloating anymore, and your smirking "bwahahahaha" will become a wailing "waahboohoohoo"...




http://www.redstate.org/story/2005/10/3/184538/491

;)
Yeah, truncy, I am looking forward to the time when blacks were slaves and women did not have the vote.

Sounds right up your alley.
 

The Mugger

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Yeah, truncy, I am looking forward to the time when blacks were slaves and women did not have the vote.

Sounds right up your alley.
Hey TOV, maybe they will come around to the fact that the "Founding Fathers" never said that the right to bear arms was a personal right.
 

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Hey TOV, maybe they will come around to the fact that the "Founding Fathers" never said that the right to bear arms was a personal right.
truncy also forgets that the FFs were Deists and did not believe in this fundamentalist religion stuff. That's why they left Europe --- the religious fanatics were anathema to them.
 

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..the guy nominates his own council for the Supreme court, he is even a bigger dickhead then I thought, which I didn't think possible..
 

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assoholic said:
..the guy nominates his own council for the Supreme court, he is even a bigger dickhead then I thought, which I didn't think possible..

President chooses

it is up to the Senate and Congress to accept. We like to call it Constitutional Prosess.
 

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..thats not the point, the point is the Supreme Court is suppossed to be something a little more important then something you give a friend. I cannot believe there is not absolute shock and disgust at this blatant cronyism. Look at what his crony appointments at FEMA cost the US.
 

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..thats not the point, the point is the Supreme Court is suppossed to be something a little more important then something you give a friend. I cannot believe there is not absolute shock and disgust at this blatant cronyism. Look at what his crony appointments at FEMA cost the US.
What dioes one say when the appointmet is good??
all appointmets are a result of patronage. GET THE FUCK OVER IT>
AND NAME A PRESIDENT WHO NAMED AN ENEMY
 

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:rolleyes:

Yup, goes to show that some conservatives can be just as asinine in their thinking as their opponents when they really feel like it- Cindy Sheehan herself would be hard-pressed to come up with anything that floridly illogical. Do these people really believe that somebody like Bush would nominate a closet Leftist for the position, or what ?
I really have to stop reading conservative pundits. George Will is the latest to make my sides hurt from so much laughter. Hey truncy, I think Will is soooooo pleased to hear you call him asinine.

From: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/04/AR2005100400954.html

Senators beginning what ought to be a protracted and exacting scrutiny of Harriet Miers should be guided by three rules. First, it is not important that she be confirmed. Second, it might be very important that she not be. Third, the presumption -- perhaps rebuttable but certainly in need of rebutting -- should be that her nomination is not a defensible exercise of presidential discretion to which senatorial deference is due.

It is not important that she be confirmed because there is no evidence that she is among the leading lights of American jurisprudence, or that she possesses talents commensurate with the Supreme Court's tasks. The president's "argument" for her amounts to: Trust me. There is no reason to, for several reasons.

He has neither the inclination nor the ability to make sophisticated judgments about competing approaches to construing the Constitution. Few presidents acquire such abilities in the course of their pre-presidential careers, and this president particularly is not disposed to such reflections.

Furthermore, there is no reason to believe that Miers's nomination resulted from the president's careful consultation with people capable of such judgments. If 100 such people had been asked to list 100 individuals who have given evidence of the reflectiveness and excellence requisite in a justice, Miers's name probably would not have appeared in any of the 10,000 places on those lists.

In addition, the president has forfeited his right to be trusted as a custodian of the Constitution.

<snip>

It is important that Miers not be confirmed ... Otherwise the sound principle of substantial deference to a president's choice of judicial nominees will dissolve into a rationalization for senatorial abdication of the duty to hold presidents to some standards of seriousness that will prevent them from reducing the Supreme Court to a private plaything useful for fulfilling whims on behalf of friends.[/B]
Bwahahahaha. Oooh. Oooh. Ouch.

It's so much fun watching the Rethuglicans eat their own, especially when the one being eaten is the Shrub.

It's also delightfully fun to watch the idiots on this board fail to think for themselves and consider the mediocrity of this woman, and instead fall in lockstep and give the Shrub yet another pass.
 

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George Wills is a blowhard who doesn't know his ass from his elbow. His vested interest in this process is that a provocation nominee with an extensive track record would cut down his workload considerably, since in the political fuss that would follow he would be able to write a dozen so hagiographies, plagiarized from various fact sheets, for his column in lieu of going through the trouble of actually thinking up something original and important to say. It is much easier to write the political version of a baseball card than a philosophical treatise ;)

In other news, the Left is getting so desperate to get some dirt on Miers that Moveon.org is actually appealing to its readers to spill the beans on what they know by using this handy-dandy online stool-pigeon utility:

http://political.moveon.org/judgefacts/
 

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George Wills is a blowhard who doesn't know his ass from his elbow. His vested interest in this process is that a provocation nominee with an extensive track record would cut down his workload considerably, since in the political fuss that would follow he would be able to write a dozen so hagiographies, plagiarized from various fact sheets, for his column in lieu of going through the trouble of actually thinking up something original and important to say. It is much easier to write the political version of a baseball card than a philosophical treatise ;)

In other news, the Left is getting so desperate to get some dirt on Miers that Moveon.org is actually appealing to its readers to spill the beans on what they know by using this handy-dandy online stool-pigeon utility:

http://political.moveon.org/judgefacts/
Ah, yes ... how many "blowhards" in truncy's universe have we managaed to identify so far in this thread:

Richard Viguerie, Rich Lowry, David Frum, William Kristol, and George Will. All second-rate unknowns. </snark>

We could go on and find many, many more with similiar opinions (e.g. Peggy Noonan, Kate O'Beirne, Ramesh Ponnuru, for example), but, by now, the dissonance going on in truncy's head must be ready to cause a massive brain hemorrhage.
 

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Truncador said:
George Wills is a blowhard who doesn't know his ass from his elbow. His vested interest in this process is that a provocation nominee with an extensive track record would cut down his workload considerably, since in the political fuss that would follow he would be able to write a dozen so hagiographies, plagiarized from various fact sheets, for his column in lieu of going through the trouble of actually thinking up something original and important to say. It is much easier to write the political version of a baseball card than a philosophical treatise

In other news, the Left is getting so desperate to get some dirt on Miers that Moveon.org is actually appealing to its readers to spill the beans on what they know by using this handy-dandy online stool-pigeon utility:

http://political.moveon.org/judgefacts/
it is truly sad to see that the party of FDR and Truman are so much out of ideas(and touch)
Well, if you can't find dirt on somebody you just make it up....where did I hear this before? HMM?

Yeah remember that Rather guy?Or whatever his name was.
Probably him and Earle are in the process of discovering new evidence. :D

Note to TOV..please note the smiley face next to my last sentence. in case you don't..

http://www.ideafinder.com/history/inventions/smileyface.htm

it's actually from your era..
 

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Ah, yes ... how many "blowhards" in truncy's universe have we managaed to identify so far in this thread:

Richard Viguerie, Rich Lowry, David Frum, William Kristol, and George Will. All second-rate unknowns. </snark>

We could go on and find many, many more with similiar opinions (e.g. Peggy Noonan, Kate O'Beirne, Ramesh Ponnuru, for example), but, by now, the dissonance going on in truncy's head must be ready to cause a massive brain hemorrhage.
*shrugs* Voltaire or somebody once said that a thousand people could say a stupid thing, and it would still be a stupid thing. I don't care how many newspaper scribblers and other monday-morning quarterbacks talk trash about the President's picks, because he is the expert here and knows what he's doing.
 

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langeweile said:
it is truly sad to see that the party of FDR and Truman are so much out of ideas(and touch)
Well, if you can't find dirt on somebody you just make it up
I wonder if she'd be able to sue them if they did that ?
 

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langeweile said:
it is truly sad to see that the party of FDR and Truman are so much out of ideas(and touch)
Well, if you can't find dirt on somebody you just make it up....where did I hear this before? HMM?

Yeah remember that Rather guy?Or whatever his name was.
Probably him and Earle are in the process of discovering new evidence. :D

Note to TOV..please note the smiley face next to my last sentence. in case you don't..

http://www.ideafinder.com/history/inventions/smileyface.htm

it's actually from your era..
Gee this rich. Typical Republican politics - claim that the opponent has no original ideas since the ideas that are brought up don't conform with the limited Republican view.

You really need to stop parroting Karl Rove and get some new ideas yourself.
 

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The Mugger said:
Gee this rich. Typical Republican politics - claim that the opponent has no original ideas since the ideas that are brought up don't conform with the limited Republican view.

You really need to stop parroting Karl Rove and get some new ideas yourself.
In case you missed it

http://political.moveon.org/judgefacts/

I didn't make this up...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy.../AR2005100301492.html?nav=rss_opinion/columns

and neither have I made this one up..it's your own boys that are getting a bit squeemish.
 

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*shrugs* Voltaire or somebody once said that a thousand people could say a stupid thing, and it would still be a stupid thing. I don't care how many newspaper scribblers and other monday-morning quarterbacks talk trash about the President's picks, because he is the expert here and knows what he's doing.
Let's add Trent Lott to the tire-kickers on Miers.

"Lott: 'Not comfortable' with Miers' nomination
Miss. Senator says he'll need more information before supporting nominee


Add Senator Trent Lott (R-Miss.) to the list of Republicans not entirely pleased with President Bush's nomination of Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court.

Lott, appearing on MSNBC-TV on Wednesday morning, told anchor Randy Meier that wants more information about Miers.

"I need to know a lot more about her, her experience and her level of competence and what is her philosophy. I really don't know this lady and I do think I owe it to my constituents and to my own conscience to do due diligence and find out actually who this person is," he said.

His first impression, however, was not a positive one.

"I don't just automatically salute or take a deep bow anytime a nominee is sent up," he said. "I have to find out who these people are, and right now, I'm not satisfied with what I know. I'm not comfortable with the nomination, so we'll just have to work through the process in due time."

Lott said while Miers may be qualified, she is "clearly" not the most qualified person for the job.

"There are a lot more people - men, women and minorities - that are more qualified in my opinion by their experience than she is," he said."
More people for truncy to think are stupid.
 

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Let's add Trent Lott to the tire-kickers on Miers.



More people for truncy to think are stupid.
FORGET the you will cut and post crap

Hell that is you

ok forget you
 

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My guess is that no matter whom Bush would have picked there would be always some nay sayers. It comes with the job.

Since the "Trinity of the clueless" (Schumer,Kennedy, Hillary) have failed to gather enough support to defeat Robertson, they now want to rally the troops on this one. So they can save face. especially after Robertson cleaned their clock and managed to get 3/4 of the senate vote.
Of course nobody will give any credit to Bush, despite the brilliant choice he made with Robertson.

I don't know if she is the best choice, to little is known about her, but unlike some we should wait for the outcome IMSO.

The only thing I can say about her for sure..she was smart enough to recognize Robertson as a talent.
 

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My guess is that no matter whom Bush would have picked there would be always some nay sayers. It comes with the job.

Since the "Trinity of the clueless" (Schumer,Kennedy, Hillary) have failed to gather enough support to defeat Robertson, they now want to rally the troops on this one. So they can save face. especially after Robertson cleaned their clock and managed to get 3/4 of the senate vote.
Of course nobody will give any credit to Bush, despite the brilliant choice he made with Robertson.

I don't know if she is the best choice, to little is known about her, but unlike some we should wait for the outcome IMSO.

The only thing I can say about her for sure..she was smart enough to recognize Robertson as a talent.
Robertson????? Do you mean Roberts? It would seem you have that you have good ole christian Pat on the mind. I use the term christian loosely here Well if anything has been fun with the Meir's pick it is watching the Republicans eat their young.

One thing else langeweile, why is it you conservatives view any vote against your beliefs as clueless. One would think that in a democratic society, dissenting votes are necessary to further the debate, unless of course you would be happier with a fascist society. I point this out because your unnecessary rantings about the opposition's duty only give the loony left some justification for their silly positions.
 
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