There is one solution which may be feasible, again it depends on a few variables.
The body of EVs, can be made of certain materials that convert solar energy which charges the battery, hence while driving or sitting with access to sunlight.
Why Major Car Manufacturers are Slowing Production of Electric Vehicles
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The body of EVs, can be made of certain materials that convert solar energy which charges the battery, hence while driving or sitting with access to sunlight.
China has global domination over EV battery production currently as well as solar panels.
The US is lagging in a similar way with respect to EVs and China as they did with the 5G network and China which might cause the US government and industry to suppress EVs sales. If Trump gets back in, expect the encouragement of the further suppression of the EV trade in America.
EVs require much more development to make them suitable for the needs and peculiarities of many markets.
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The Fisker Ocean and the Hyundai Ioniq have solar roofs. But they only provide about 5km of extra range, per day of charging, under excellent day light conditions. Which is quite inefficient atleast as of now.
EV manufacturers require more freebies and handouts from
the government to prosper which I believe they would though
at the expense of taxpayers who cannot afford a Tesla and have
to stick to ICE cars or settle for scooters. In the long run the less
affluent would also have to pay the price of escalating utility
payment resulting from rising demand of electricity all for
the purpose of virtue-signalling of the rich.
So you believe that in the long term electric vehicles will never be viable without being permanently propped up by the government?
In the long run electric vehicles will be viable when cost
of fossil fuel becomes prohibitively expensive as the world
is running out of it.
Put it the other way EV will be viable when ICE vehicles are no longer so.
So you object to government intervention to push the industry in that direction more quickly?
You can never generate enough electricity to service the overall economy, never. ICE is far from reaching it's potential, unfortunately it's not profit effective for the oil companies. To drive EV production to near ICE levels would entail a massive cull in biodiversity. Imho that is more dangerous to humanity than climate change. For governments to subsidize electric power further would require the building of at least a dozen more nuclear power plants. That has it's own risk, we haven't figured out what to do with spent fuel rods.
Toronto is restoring the Don River to cut down the cost of flooding in the GTA. Seattle has had a similar project, it appears to be very successful. EVs are not the answer to climate change, not without runaway food inflation.
Can't wait to get the catheter out of my lungs, then I'll be free to visit The Portlands. I have no intention of buying an EV.
Huh? Maybe I’m misreading your post but we generate enough power to meet our needs every single day. We’ve not had a widespread blackout in Ontario since 2003.
Again…Huh? ICE is a dying technology. It reached it’s peak ages ago. At the same time, ICE’s are the only motors that are profitable for oil companies.
How?
And you don't have an education. Stick with washing cars Jose.
Nah, so many people don't understand the most basic fundamentals of energy. And their ignorance is inversely proportional to the outrage in which they demonstrate it!
Thing is, hydrogen is not a fuel. It is a medium to store energy.
We cannot fractionate (?) combustible hydrogen out of our atmosphere, or out of water, or out of petroleum without using more energy to isolate hydrogen atoms to be combustible.
I love these people who think hydrogen is so clean that the exhaust is "pure water".
Yes it is. But it took more energy to move that vehicle the same distance than if you just used diesel or gasoline.
The only way hydrogen or batteries make environmental or net economic sense is if the power source is hydroelectric or nuclear.
Period.
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Never mind incentives. Something that hasn't been said much about is road taxes. Sure, now charging up your electric car is cheap. Because you are not paying road taxes. Yet.
At some point, the govt is going to equalize the electricity cost per km travelled to the petroleum equivilant and impose a specific tax grab to include the equivilant of the oil industry profits.
Mark my words.
I can't see this working. No such thing as simply removing the battery. Think of how many different manufacturers there are, different capacity, size, shape etc. They also weigh a ton and you would need a lot of space to store all the different batteries. Not to mention, what happens when you go to sell your 3 year old car? Does it have a 1 year old battering with 50 charges on it, or a 5 year old one with hundreds of charges? Batteries also degrade over time and the number of times they're charged. Fast chargers further reduce their life as well. To many variables to be a viable option.
I object to a government banning the sale of ICE vehicles by a certain date, with no careful consideration of what power requirements will be necessary or how they're going to generate said electricity.
Experts have said: "Results indicate that EVs could pose a significant burden on Canadian electricity grids, with system demand (also known as load) increasing by as little as 7.5% to as much as 15.3%, although the burden varies across the provinces from as little as 4.6% (Quebec) to as much as 26.2% (Ontario). Overall, Canada could see an increase in annual load ranging from 46.8 terawatt hours (TWh) to 95.1 TWh, with BC’s load potentially increasing by 4.4-9.3 TWh, Ontario’s by 19.0-38.2 TWh. and Quebec’s by 10-21.7 TWh.
What does this imply for new generating capacities? We project that as many as 13 new gas plants of 500-MW capacity might be required in Canada: one in British Columbia, five in Ontario, and three in Quebec. Alternatively, it would be necessary to develop 10 new hydroelectric facilities equal in size to BC’s Site-C (about 1,000 MW capacity): one in BC, four in Ontario, and two in Quebec.
If EV demand for power is to come from non-hydro renewable sources, wind is the most likely option. Assuming a capacity of 3.5 MW per turbine and average wind capacity factor of 25%, it would be necessary to build nearly 5,000 large turbines in Canada, with 560 in BC, 1860 in Ontario and 1200 in Quebec. Given the unreliability of wind energy, it would also be necessary to build peak-gas plants, hydropower and/or utility-scale battery storage capacity as backup. Importantly, because backup capacity cannot pay for itself as it does not deliver enough power during the year, it would need to be subsidized, thereby adding to system costs. Unless society begins almost immediately to develop the required generating infrastructure, it will not be possible to meet the expected demand."
I've touched on that in other EV threads. It's coming alright. Some of these EV chargers aren't so cheap either. I have a friend who charged up his VW SUV in St. Catharines. It cost almost $70.00 which gave him about 250 kms range.
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