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Why I Am Voting Liberal

CapitalGuy

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People who want to take your hard-earned money and put it into their own less-deserving pockets, will vote Liberal or NDP. People who make their way in the world through their own wits and hard work, will vote Conservative.
 

krayjee

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It wasn't taxpayer money. I could give rat's ass if he ripped off the German. He wasn't PM at the time and I didn't vote for him anyway.
It's not about tax payers' money. It's about taking bribes in cash and not paying tax on it. Try what can happen to you if you try to avoid paying tax. You'll be screwed and might even lose your properties.
 

dj1470

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I'm voting liberal because I HATE Stephen Harper.

He's the furthest thing from a "good guy" and he's bad for Eastern Canada. As far as Harper and his band of merry Albertan Conservatives are concerned, it it isn't dug out of the ground in one form shape or another, it's not important.

I will hold my nose and vote for Iggy.
I'm voting conservative because I HATE Michael Ignatieff.

He's the furthest thing from a "good guy" and he's bad for Canada. As far as Iggy and his band of merry Quebec ass kissing Liberals are concerned, it it isn't sucking up to the public tax trough in one form shape or another, it's not important.

I will hold my nose and vote for Harper.

"Families or fighter jets?" says Iggy.

I'll take fighter jets and you can keep you squealing kids
 

shinner1

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read the headlines..Iggy is full of daycare heath care feel good promises to the tune of about 50 billion dollars of "our" hard earned tax dollars..I'll take the f35s to bomb the crap outa the bad guys and protect our men and women in uniform overses......and keep the change to support my favorite hobby please and thanks!
 

Veronica27

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I will be voting Conservative. I really hope we get a majority too...... Main reason is a FUCK YOU to iggy and layton for wasting close to 300 MILLION bucks on an election.

Thats my tax dollars those fucking idiots are wasting.
Spending $29B on overpriced, untendered jets is good use of your tax dollars?
Spending $9B+ to build superjails to incarcerate more Canadians for unreported crimes is good use of your tax dollars?
Reducing the banks and other large corporations taxes another 1% (from over 50% in 1980 to about 25% now) while we are still in a deficit is wise (cost over $6B in tax revenue)?

Paying $300M is nothing compared to the $1B spent last year for a 3 day photo op which 1) probably resulted in less tourism dollars because of the negative coverage; and 2) was for what - does anyone know what was discussed/signed that could have not been done over a conference call/fax?

If for no other reason than our healthcare system, you must not allow a Harper majority. The prime minister after the election will be starting the negotiation process of transfer payments to the provinces for the purpose of healthcare. With a majority, two-tier healthcare will be a reality in this country.

Make sure you vote on May 2!

John
 

shinner1

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you need a drink and a stiff joint veronica..how do you think Iggy will spend your money? Corporate tax cuts are a needed! I own a small business and am tired of getting pounded by taxes because i make a profit after paying suppliers and staff. Less taxes equals more staff, more work getting done because i hired more staff means more supplies being bought, more supplies getting purchaed means more suppliers getting paid and hiring more staff.. do you get it?? If small busniess make money by paying less we can afford to hire more people..its what makes us different than the commies (aka the liberals and NDP).
Get your head outa the sand people..if your boss is not making any money it's awfull hard for him/her to give you a raise, no matter how hard you work! SAY NO TO LIBERALS AND NDP and yes to corporate tax declines (or vote bloc or green party and your vote will not count anyway)
Cheers all!
 

rear rider

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Good to see most of you got your political education through the right wing 10 second commercial TV clip. Business and their counterparts want you to believe that what is good for business is good for the average person. Which is just plain bullshit. It would be nice to have independent thinkers and people who can logically analyze the impact of what the National Citizens Coalition (Stevie Harper's group) and the "I was born with the right to govern" (Liberals) promises mean to the average person. Discover the impact of individual and more so corporate tax cuts to society and our standard of living. And don't tell me that corporate tax cuts will create jobs. There is too much evidence otherwise. Look at the platforms or more importantly educate yourself on the foundation of each party and what their true intention is. Working people know there is only one No Demented Party.
 

shinner1

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rear rider, I respect the opinion on the your platform..hang on the NDP does not have one yet. I assume by your post you are on welfare enjoying the "fruits" of hard working Canadians, like most NDP supporters..of your in a union.
How does any company that gets taxed to death make money and be able to grow our economy. Government taxes company more, company raises prices and lays off employess. Net result less staff higher prices..how does this help the average Canadian?????
Think about it!
Let's impose more expense on your average small business through higher taxes and then expect prices not to rise on your daily needs.
 

Veronica27

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you need a drink and a stiff joint veronica..how do you think Iggy will spend your money? Corporate tax cuts are a needed! I own a small business and am tired of getting pounded by taxes because i make a profit after paying suppliers and staff. Less taxes equals more staff, more work getting done because i hired more staff means more supplies being bought, more supplies getting purchaed means more suppliers getting paid and hiring more staff.. do you get it?? If small busniess make money by paying less we can afford to hire more people..its what makes us different than the commies (aka the liberals and NDP).
Get your head outa the sand people..if your boss is not making any money it's awfull hard for him/her to give you a raise, no matter how hard you work! SAY NO TO LIBERALS AND NDP and yes to corporate tax declines (or vote bloc or green party and your vote will not count anyway)
Cheers all!
I own a big business and I will not be adding any more staff because of my windfall. Businesses add jobs when it will increase their profits. They do not add jobs because they get a percentage tax cut.

I guess banks and other multinationals will be going on a hiring frenzy with another corporate tax cut. NOT.

My point was that corporate tax cuts when we were in an annual surplus situation while Chretien/Martin were in power was acceptable. It is not when when we are in a deficit and the population is aging and taxpayers are becoming a smaller proportion of the population.

If you are a small businessman and are paying corporate taxes you need a new accountant. Why are you not paying yourself all the company's profits?
 

shinner1

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veronica..if YOU had a decent accountant and a big business you might have heard the term "retained earnings"..is kinda more important than a year end bonus.
"Owning a business that has no retained earnings is like buying yourself a job for a million dollars and then paying yourself 100k a year"..the great Donald Trump.
 

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I am not voting for a former lawyer for Prime Minister and guess which party I am voting ?
 

5hummer

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Question: If you're voting for Harper/PCs, does that mean you support the Americanization of Canada? (e.g. sovereignty, resources like oil & water, industries, etc.)
 

CapitalGuy

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Question: If you're voting for Harper/PCs, does that mean you support the Americanization of Canada? (e.g. sovereignty, resources like oil & water, industries, etc.)
Childish propaganda, a sign of desperation. Resort to trite melodramatic one-liners. Good grief.
 

vyrguy

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I have no illusion that what I write here will sway anyones opinion one way or another when it comes to voting for their candidate. I have read all the posts and there seems to be two groups of people debating this subject; those who blindly support their party/candidate come hell or high-water and those who are making logical fact based arguments and asking probing questions. I would like to think that I belong to the second group.

I don't support any candidate per se but I do know that I would never vote for Harper. I find Harper to be terrifying person. I do not believe that Harper gives a single thought to the average Canadian citizen whether they voted for him or not. I scarcely believe that he even acknowledges that he is in power because people voted for him but rather that he was always meant to be the PM and that ordinary Canadians has very little to do with it. It was inevitable. Gods will. Harper has the mentality of a despot.

I don't really get Iggy but what I really don't get is this almost vitriolic hatred that I see displayed on these boards for the man. Why. Because he took a job in the US and spent many years outside of Canada. That's it! Is that REALLY such a big concern for Canadians or does it have more to so with those relentless attack ads that keep demonizing that fact. SO what!?! What's the big concern.
And one more point on the attack ads. On that basis alone I will not vote for Harper. All he does sit in his ivory tower and spend tons of money trashing his main opposition. It seems very cowardly to me. Like he is afraid if he doesnt constantly point out Iggys flaws that people might actually start liking the guy. Why don't we see more conservative ads touting what their achievements and what they plan to do in the future instead of always focusing on what a failure Iggy is. And not the Liberal party mind you. Just Iggy.

The other parties I don't think it really matters one way or another because it would take a miracle any of them to win although I do sometimes wish that we could somehow inspire a very large group of people to vote green or doe an independent just to shake things up and scare the others into taking notice of us little people with the big X.

One last thing: Stephen Harper is in NO way responsible for Canada surviving the economic downturn. It would have turned out the same way irrespective of who was running the country at the time. The Canadian banking system is one of the most rigorous and unbending systems in the world, even in banking circles (as a consultant I have worked for many banks both in Canada and Internationally) and it's staunch adherence to the regulations imposed by Basel, OSFI, SOX etc. as well as the outstanding leadership of men like Ed Clarke, Gerry McCaughey, Gordon Nixon et al is what kept Canada economy strong during that period. It had nothing to do with Harper.
 
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Dancerfan

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I couldn't care less that Iggy spent a good part of his life working and living in the US, i am not anti -American in any way shape or form, but what i don't like about Iggy is that he is an "intellectual elitist", and also quoted as saying that he is a "tax and spend Liberal", 2 reasons that i would not support him or his party, it seems nowadays that anti - Americanism has become quite rampant here in Canada again,so it seems like the Conservative party's backroom boys are playing up the fact that Iggy spent a good deal of his life in the US to cash in on anti - American sentiment.
 

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The more I hear them talk, the more I dislike all of them.
It is quite sad and embarrassing that these are the best leaders that we have to choose from.
Harper is really annoying me but I still think he is the best of a pathetic lot.
 

Veronica27

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veronica..if YOU had a decent accountant and a big business you might have heard the term "retained earnings"..is kinda more important than a year end bonus.
"Owning a business that has no retained earnings is like buying yourself a job for a million dollars and then paying yourself 100k a year"..the great Donald Trump.
I have and know enough about retained earnings. Thank you. But please don't quote a (great?) guy that couldn't make money running casinos in Atlantic City. Since the Joan Rivers fix on Apprentice, the only thing I admire him for is his run of attractive wives.
 
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