Why do nice guys finish last?
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Nice guys should finish last, because that means they've already assisted the woman in acheiving her orgasm.
beaten to death topic, but thats perhaps pretty much it.
im a bit of jerk and quite sarcastic, but still go un-noticed, unforunately.
im a bit of jerk and quite sarcastic, but still go un-noticed, unforunately.
I don't know. I am not a nice guy.SamSmith said:Because they are boring and always available. (To talk to.) Hence they're no challenge to women since all they want is a challenge when it comes to a man they want.
Agree or not? Let's discuss.
abstinent said:
I already figured this out a long time ago.
A guy can be a nice guy. A guy can be an asshole. Whichever one doesn't make you any more attractive to a girl.
All that matters is how you look.
This also explains/answers why girls put up so much with assholes and keep forgiving them for their mistakes and cheating ways or if he's a total jerk. She tries to change him. Or god forbid, he hits her and she gives him another chance. Why? Because he looks so damn good to her that she wants to try to keep him.
I used to have a buddy who had all the looks, but he was dating 2 girls - juggling them both at the same time - and I think they knew but they didnt care
I also know of another girl that knows that the guy she likes has a girlfriend and is pregnant with his baby. He is "taking care" of the pregnant girlfriend but this girl I knew says that its okay if she's seeing this guy that has a pregnant girlfriend, because as she puts it, "they're not dating", he's only "taking care of her". And meanwhile, she lets this guy come over her house and "make out" with her.
Whatever lady. That's fucked up logic.
Why does she follow this fucked up logic? Because he looks really good. That's all that matters. So, whether you're nice or not. doesn't matter.
asn said:
Exactly.
You don't have to be a prick, but, you need to stand your ground. If she's dishing out BS in your eyes, you need to set her straight.
I find as I get older that it's very easy to walk away from a bullshit relationship. I try hard, however, if he's a scream queen, or a ball buster, then I walk. I remember one time last April getting into a bullshit arguement with a woman I was seeing. We had been seeing each other perhaps 3 or 4 weeks and she started in on the analytical bullshit - "I don't really know you", "you need to be more this and that". I remember I went to the washroom and was just sitting there thinking, "What do I want right now?"
The answer was, "I want her the fuck out of my house and I want to sleep alone" So, I went back to the bedroom and said to her, "Look, this night is getting completely skewed and I have to be up early in the morning, so I'll drive you home now."
Never called her again, don't care, don't know, don't wanna know.
Women choose nice guys to be their stable, dependable husbands. They're only interested in nice guys when they are ready to settle down and start a family.
You can actually be both. My wife thinks I'm a nice guy. Around her I am a nice guy. She doesn't know what I get up to the rest of the time, and with all the other women in my life I'm not a nice guy, because I"m not looking for a relationship either, so I'm aloof and confident.
You can actually be both. My wife thinks I'm a nice guy. Around her I am a nice guy. She doesn't know what I get up to the rest of the time, and with all the other women in my life I'm not a nice guy, because I"m not looking for a relationship either, so I'm aloof and confident.
It would sure be nice to have a definition of a nice guy. I'm sure you will find it's different for everyone. Just as a nice girl would be different. I hate when your sitting with a women you know and she says "why can't I find a nice guy like you" That is just stupid on her part or I'm a nice guy but not attractive enough for her. Oh and one more thing. Money seems to be a great equalizer.
roland51 said:
Nah. Nice girl's the same concept as nice guy: Cute, not unattractive, but definately not hot, family oriented girl, who is never going to screw you around. Nobody wants that kind of girl for their girlfriend. Maybe for a wife.
No, she's reflecting on herself. She CAN'T find a nice guy like you, because a nice guy like you doesn't get her juices flowing. No nice guy does. She's reflecting on how much easier her life would be if it weren't for those damn flowing juices.
Me too. Imagine how much simpler my life would be if I wasn't obsessed with hot women. Oh well, but I am.
I think nice guys allow themselves to be walked on sometimes because it is the nice thing to do rather than be confrontational. To all nice guys out there - be kind to the point of being walked on, then have the dignity to walk away. Find someone that appreciates your kindness not uses and abuses it.
This...
...is SO wrong. Though I will say that if the "women" you are referring to are under the age of 25, I could be wrong. I have no idea how the minds of women under 25 work.
Women care FAR LESS than men do about looks, in the true physical sense (as in, how you look when naked). They do care about style, and other things...what I would sum up as "appearance"....but not "looks".
Was just talking to my "friend" about a buddy tonight, and his ongoing problems with women. She (again) goes on and on about what a shame it is that he can't get laid to save his life because he is so good looking. She feels so sorry for him...hell, she feels sorry for women everywhere, she says, because he is so good looking. She just can't believe he can't find SOME gal to hook up with. Again I asked (for maybe the 10th time since she has met him) "would YOU fuck him"? And again...she sort of frowns...as you can see the gears turning in her head....and she sighs and says "no".
Why not? For the same reason my buddy can't get laid in the first place. As good looking as he is, he is a dweeby nerd. Nice guy, and I love him like a brother, but he has NO CLUE how to socialize with women. In other words, he doesn't have a sexy bone in his body.
Sexy. Or...rich. Or....reliable / safe. These things attract women (though the last usually will land you a woman who is using you). "Looks" will get attention from women, but it won't get you in bed with them if there is nothing else there.
Terminator2000 said:
...is SO wrong. Though I will say that if the "women" you are referring to are under the age of 25, I could be wrong. I have no idea how the minds of women under 25 work.
Women care FAR LESS than men do about looks, in the true physical sense (as in, how you look when naked). They do care about style, and other things...what I would sum up as "appearance"....but not "looks".
Was just talking to my "friend" about a buddy tonight, and his ongoing problems with women. She (again) goes on and on about what a shame it is that he can't get laid to save his life because he is so good looking. She feels so sorry for him...hell, she feels sorry for women everywhere, she says, because he is so good looking. She just can't believe he can't find SOME gal to hook up with. Again I asked (for maybe the 10th time since she has met him) "would YOU fuck him"? And again...she sort of frowns...as you can see the gears turning in her head....and she sighs and says "no".
Why not? For the same reason my buddy can't get laid in the first place. As good looking as he is, he is a dweeby nerd. Nice guy, and I love him like a brother, but he has NO CLUE how to socialize with women. In other words, he doesn't have a sexy bone in his body.
Sexy. Or...rich. Or....reliable / safe. These things attract women (though the last usually will land you a woman who is using you). "Looks" will get attention from women, but it won't get you in bed with them if there is nothing else there.
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I have found that all women have different tastes just as we men do. So all of the qualities, be it being a nice guy, got style, money, good looks or brains (nerds fall into this category too) will attract some kind of girl. Not necessarily the kind that HE wants.
For the record, i like nice girls like the one fuji describes.
For the record, i like nice girls like the one fuji describes.
MLAM said:
Even though some people might disagree, I think women do care about looks as much as men do. Both men and women want to be with the best looking partners as possible. Its human nature to be that way as that is how we're programmed. Look at how women go gaga over hot celeb guys with all the screaming and whatnot. But the difference is that women are MUCH MORE likely and willing to overlook a man's lack of attractiveness than men with women, IMO.
I think it all goes back to the hunter/gatherers and genes thing. Goodlooking women have good genes, hence men want them to have their children, since they're more likely to bear healthy kids. Women look for men with resources, power and the ability to take care of them and their children. So while having an attractive guy is a plus, they're willing to forgo that if the guy has those other qualities. For young women who aren't looking to get hitched that might be different, but women looking to settle down, I'm thinking this is the case.
Ok....
...different spin on the point is was trying to make.
Women WILL fawn over a hot guy. They won't fuck him JUST because he is hot...and even if they do...they won't DATE HIM just because he is hot. They are perfectly happy to just enjoy from a distance.
SexHound said:
...different spin on the point is was trying to make.
Women WILL fawn over a hot guy. They won't fuck him JUST because he is hot...and even if they do...they won't DATE HIM just because he is hot. They are perfectly happy to just enjoy from a distance.
but are self professed "nice" guys just too slimy?
Well I can share what my daughter recently told me in a discussion on this topic. She is in her mid twenties and beautiful, although I might be prejudiced.
According to her most men who think of themselves as “nice” are in reality “slimy and just trying to endear themselves. Guys who are really nice never define themselves that way and are wonderful and are hard to get because when you find one he is probably already taken.”
Well I can share what my daughter recently told me in a discussion on this topic. She is in her mid twenties and beautiful, although I might be prejudiced.
According to her most men who think of themselves as “nice” are in reality “slimy and just trying to endear themselves. Guys who are really nice never define themselves that way and are wonderful and are hard to get because when you find one he is probably already taken.”
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