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alex52

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I am saddened by the death of 16 year old school girl killed at the hands of her muslim father over her desire to shun the hijab.
 
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Edifice

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If the father is so adamant about his daughter wearing the hijab, then he should have stayed back in his country. :mad:

It saddens me that he took the life of his daughter over something as ridiculous as this.

This is Canada FFS, not the Middle East.
 

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so true

Edifice said:
If the father is so adamant about his daughter wearing the hijab, then he should have stayed back in his country.

It saddens me that he took the life of his daughter over something as ridiculous as this.

This is Canada FFS, not the Middle East.
Very very Sad:(
 

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Edifice said:
It saddens me that he took the life of his daughter over something as ridiculous as this.
Though the death is sad and unfortunate, the hijab is not ridiculous. I don't believe this is a muslim issue, as bad people are everywhere.
 

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1HandInMyPocket said:
Though the death is sad and unfortunate, the hijab is not ridiculous. I don't believe this is a muslim issue, as bad people are everywhere.

its certainly a cultural if not religious issue. The idea that a man can kill his daughter and would even conceive of such an evil thought for something so petty is beyond my limited comprehension. I hope to see a strong condemnation of this act by the cdn muslim leadership
 

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Apparently her brother was charged with obstructing justice as well...

A strong condemnation by the Muslim leadership would be a good idea...

Maybe then it will be viewed not as religeous issue but "simply" a whackjob father and family members acting out against a rebelious teenager

that said.. i'll bet its gonna play out as a religious issue .....and (my words) I'm damn sure it is (a religous issue)
 

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Neverenuff$ said:
Apparently her brother was charged with obstructing justice as well...

A strong condemnation by the Muslim leadership would be a good idea...

Maybe then it will be viewed not as religeous issue but "simply" a whackjob father and family members acting out against a rebelious teenager

that said.. i'll bet its gonna play out as a religious issue .....and (my words) I'm damn sure it is (a religous issue)
Most likely it is partly a religous issue on a minor scale. I wouldn't believe that this would be considered a prevalent course of action among North American Muslims.

There is probably a cultural aspect to this as well.
 

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Bear in mind that this sort of thing can happen in extremist Christian households as well...lock the daughter in the basement and other cruel and weird behaviour to cleanse perceived sins...the problem is not Islam, the problem is extremist belief systems!
 

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continental_op said:
Bear in mind that this sort of thing can happen in extremist Christian households as well...lock the daughter in the basement and other cruel and weird behaviour to cleanse perceived sins...the problem is not Islam, the problem is extremist belief systems!

Agreed , but in the case at hand it appears to be Islamic extremist belief systems...

and its no defense for the actions that were taken by a "father"
 

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Over there, in some country's it would not even be a crime or much of a crime. They look at it as the father was keeping the country "clean". After all she would have just harmed others by acting the way she was.

When people come here they forget where they are at sometimes.

Its too bad she had nowhere to go, yes its very sad. The hospital did try to save her but fail later that night.

I would not be surprise if her father thinks today he did not do much wrong. :mad:
 

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Neverenuff$ said:
Apparently her brother was charged with obstructing justice as well...

A strong condemnation by the Muslim leadership would be a good idea...

Maybe then it will be viewed not as religeous issue but "simply" a whackjob father and family members acting out against a rebelious teenager

that said.. i'll bet its gonna play out as a religious issue .....and (my words) I'm damn sure it is (a religous issue)

we'll be waiting for a while to hear that condemnation I think.

"nothing new...wasnt there a story about a father and his sons stoning their daughter/sister to death because she dated boy who wasnt of their faith in iraq."

sure its new, this is not Iraq.

I tell ya , there's some fucked up belief systems out there.

but I think islam is by far the most dangerous

religion can inspire people to do great things , but its also the easiest way to justify doing some of the worst things that people have done to each other.
 

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Brownie69 said:
Most likely it is partly a religous issue on a minor scale. I wouldn't believe that this would be considered a prevalent course of action among North American Muslims.

There is probably a cultural aspect to this as well.
Probably either is right...... But the main issue here is that there are probably LOTS of girls from similar backgrounds doing the same thing & you never hear about it because their fathers aren't crazy assholes.... The Murderer's actions are wat define this situation. Religion & culture may have been the triggers but this killing was caused by a nutter that couldn't handle his shit.
 

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Neverenuff$ said:
Apparently her brother was charged with obstructing justice as well...

A strong condemnation by the Muslim leadership would be a good idea...

Maybe then it will be viewed not as religeous issue but "simply" a whackjob father and family members acting out against a rebelious teenager

that said.. i'll bet its gonna play out as a religious issue .....and (my words) I'm damn sure it is (a religous issue)
Whatever the reason for the death, let's pray (in any denominational prayer that we chose) for her soul.

May she rest in peace, she was denied the right to grow up and grow old happily. That is the bottom line.
 
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S.C. Joe

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I hate saying this--because I believe some of those guys are cool but the father was a cab driver.

I know in the past some on here have said how rude they can drive--who knows, he might have been the jerk who cut you off in the past.
 

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Yet another angry controlling male, we have plenty of homegrown ones as well.

This crap shouldn't be acceptable.
 

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Over this or any other religious issue

alex52 said:
To kill ones own child is beyond my comprehension.

It is beyond comprehension but I have seen some kids drive there folks so far off the deep end on other issues I could comprehend one taking there child’s life but not condone it.


My Friends Son who has repeatedly gone to jail for selling narcotics has cost him hundred’s of thousands of dollars in legal fees and bail money just to repeat the offences on bail when he promised a pleaded with his father to get him out .If my Friend were to kill his son I would comprehend that .
 

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what ever would lead a father to kill his daughter ,, just goes to say he is a dangerous man... i hope that he will pay for his crime... i would like to say more. but it just breaks my heart............... :-(
 

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And it was so dumb, I mean you bring a young person somewhere, they are going to want to act like the local kids do. Why did he bring her here if he wanted her not to act like these kids do ?

She was just trying to fit in and make friends, like any normal kid would do.
 
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