Why are you so pround to pay to be treated as a colony by the f... general governor?

[hoser1970]

Therefore, my conclusion is that you, anglophones, still prefer to be treated as simple subjects to the queen which owe obedience and submission. You are unable to get rid of her as a child is unable to go out of skirts of his mother.

Therefore, you don't have the necessary patriotism nor proud to assure your future as sovereign country, you prefer to be considered as inferiors of britains.

Dear Mazingerz

MY CANADA includes Quebec. I just wish Canada's Quebec did not include you!

 

[alex52]

If this guy's sole purpose is trolling and insults, how much further does he have to go before banning? Just curious.

5 posts, all clearly meant to bait people into argument with no clear purpose. His assertation the we anglophones are somehow his inferior because we don't mind having a queen is hypocritical and racist. He does not respond to actual debate or points of error in his post, he just calls us names.

What's your point?

Why ban Mazingerz, Lancs is doing the same. Some people like living on the fringe and become a subject of derision and comic relief. I enjoy it.

 

[Music_Box]

-
What the hell is this that we have to give honors and "stay loyal" to some stupid Queen in a far-off European nation? Aren't we Canadians an independent nation? Do the Americans swear allegiance to a european queen? Please, we Canadians are the laughing stock of the world.

What does our multi-cultural Canada has to do with the Brit monarchy? This is so lame and cheesy. We need to get our own identity if we want to be an industrialized, first-world nation. Even dirt-poor Haiti has haitian generals as the icons in their money, not some french queen or some african leader.

Those of you that still want a monarchy or be cheesy loyals of a european queen might as well pack your bags and go to Britain. Let's have a little honor like the Americans do.

 

[Aardvark154]

-
What the hell is this that we have to give honors and "stay loyal" to some stupid Queen in a far-off European nation? Aren't we Canadians an independent nation? Do the Americans swear allegiance to a european queen? Please, we Canadians are the laughing stock of the world.

What does our multi-cultural Canada has to do with the Brit monarchy? This is so lame and cheesy. We need to get our own identity if we want to be an industrialized, first-world nation. Even dirt-poor Haiti has haitian generals as the icons in their money, not some french queen or some african leader.

Those of you that still want a monarchy or be cheesy loyals of a european queen might as well pack your bags and go to Britain. Let's have a little honor like the Americans do.

Some of us actualy have ancestors who came to this 'quelques arpents de neige', entirely because of that monarchy and who bear that "particular mark."

 

[Aardvark154]

Therefore, my conclusion is that you, anglophones

We could have a very interesting discussion of nineteenth and early twentieth century Quebec historiography and some of the reasons why you have been brought up to believe as you do. However, I doubt if you truly care.


Pardonnez-moi, mon Français n'est pas bon.
Nous pourrions avoir une discussion très intéressante de le 19ème siècle et la début du 20ème siècle historiographie du Québec et certaines des raisons vous croyez comme le faites vous. Cependant, je doute de vous vraiment souci à son sujet.

 

[Music_Box]

Some of us actualy have ancestors who came to this 'quelques arpents de neige', entirely because of that monarchy and who bear that "particular mark."

You must know that we are no longer an anglo-saxon nation, we are multi-cultural. I am white as white bread but far-off from being an anglo-saxon. I have nothing to do with Britain.

 

[Aardvark154]

You must know that we are no longer an anglo-saxon nation, we are multi-cultural. I am white as white bread but far-off from being an anglo-saxon. I have nothing to do with Britain.

But presumably you or your ancestors came to Canada knowing it's nature and form of government.

 

[The Bandit]

if you don't want to live in a country where the queen is the head of state you can always leave at any time.

She serves nooooooooooooooooo purpose in Canada, she's a has been. Why should I leave, I was born here...where does she live?

 

[Aardvark154]

She serves nooooooooooooooooo purpose in Canada, she's a has been.

Anyone who has bothered to study political theory and government would know that, such a statement is balderdash, and that a Constitutional Monarchy has a great many advantages as a system of government.

 

[WinterHawk]

I not from England, the Queen of England is not and will never be my queen and never I will be prostrate to a anything anglophone. Maybee she is your heritage but not mine.

But in USA too, she is their heritage and she is not the queen of the usa, she is not present on their money and she is not refeir to assermentation when politician are elected or when an immigrant wan't to have its citizenship. And they don't have to ask their permission for going in election.

Why Canadian are not more pround to decide themselve of their country. They need again to pay for be treated as colony in asking permission of the Queen for doing their law. This is ridicoulos. Whats the matter? You are afraid?

I am amazed sometimes by the comments I read on TERB, how ignorant some people can be of Canadian History and Tradations. When I went to Public School, the Union Jack flew on the Flag Pole and we sang God Save the Queen and Oh Canada. With the Lords Prayer.

It's true that Canada has 2 founding "races", English and French. The people in Quebec have resented and hated the FACT that FRANCE abandoned them to a far, far better fate than being ruled by FRANCE. The English wisely and fairly ensured that French language and culture (RC Church) would not be absorbed in a sea of English that North America was becoming. Would FRANCE have granted that same protection to an English colony? Some how I doubt it, especially given the agressive efforts on part of the Quebec government and the LIBERALS in Ottawa.

Canada is an independant country, a member of the British Commonwealth and a shining example to the world of a country that lives by a set rules and customs we had inherited from England. That you as an individual have rights and are entitled to a measure of respect. That you do not live in fear of the police, the military, the courts or the government because symbolically, historically and legally you have an ally in the Queen of Canada and her representative, the Governor General.

Many generations of CANADIANS have died here and around the world to ensure that you live in freedom. That you have the right to laugh and mock us who believe in a Canada where the Maple Leaf means hope and honour.

Our system of believes and values is much like our cousins to the south, we just chose to believe in an impartial system of government where some are appointed to positions of authority instead of running for an election where if you have enough money or connections, you get the job. It's been my experience that our "British" sense of fair play, protection of the weak and a courage to defend those rights again and again, make this one of, if not the greatest countries in the world.

I didn't say strongest or most powerful. But we do have a sense of right and wrong that you won't find anywhere else.

This is my Canada, the Canada of my fore-fathers, who lived and died for this country.

 

[Aardvark154]

Some of us actualy have ancestors who came to this 'quelques arpents de neige', entirely because of that monarchy and who bear that "particular mark."

You must know that we are no longer an anglo-saxon nation, we are multi-cultural. I am white as white bread but far-off from being an anglo-saxon. I have nothing to do with Britain.

Neither were all of them, there were Germans and Huguenots and members of the Six Nations Iroquois Confederacy as well as Scots and English and Irish and Welsh, heck there were even some with ancestors from the Italian Peninsula.

 

[Hangman]

Those of you advocating the abolition of the Monarchy really ought to suggest an equally flexible and durable form of government.

We've used this one for a couple hundred years and I've got to say, its worked out pretty well so far. Wouldn't you all agree? Healthy and wealthy and secure enough that we have the luxury to debate it. I'm in no hurry to scrap all that.

Again, for those that dislike it so, you are free to seek better government elsewhere, or you could write a letter to your MP outlining your concerns. I'm sure a complete rebuilding of the basic structure of government (for zero economic gain and unknown risks) should be a piece of cake.

 

[Hangman]

-
What the hell is this that we have to give honors and "stay loyal" to some stupid Queen in a far-off European nation? Aren't we Canadians an independent nation? Do the Americans swear allegiance to a european queen? Please, we Canadians are the laughing stock of the world.

What does our multi-cultural Canada has to do with the Brit monarchy? This is so lame and cheesy. We need to get our own identity if we want to be an industrialized, first-world nation. Even dirt-poor Haiti has haitian generals as the icons in their money, not some french queen or some african leader.

Those of you that still want a monarchy or be cheesy loyals of a european queen might as well pack your bags and go to Britain. Let's have a little honor like the Americans do.

You really want us to be more like Haiti or the US? Wow.

Why should we pack our bags and leave? We like the current system. Sounds like you're the ones who ought to leave.

Who, exactly, laughs at us? We're a small nation, not huge players on the world stage but that has nothing to do with our form of government. We're the envy of many countries, and if we got that way with our curious form of government, then that's a pretty good endorsement of the system.

And it's spelled "honour."

But you're right. We should have a military dictatorship, like Haiti.

 

[mazingerz]

I don't believe Canada will be taken seriously until they assume alone their avenir, until they stop to let all people in the world doing their law in our house. Get rid of of the Queen, it is the pass. We don't need to referer to her nor of our money, nor in the assermentation nor when new immigrand wan't they have the canadian citizenship. I will like to be pround of my country and stop to be considered as a colony. Until the queen will get out, Canada never really a real country.

Some of you say we are pacific and etc.. We can to be pacific without to let all people doing their law in our house. Sometime, we should be less pacific and assert our Canadian identity, not britanique but only Canadian

 

[fix0r]

"Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest."
- Denis Diderot

 

[Bobzilla]

I don't believe Canada will be taken seriously until they assume alone their avenir, until they stop to let all people in the world doing their law in our house. Get rid of of the Queen, it is the pass. We don't need to referer to her nor of our money, nor in the assermentation nor when new immigrand wan't they have the canadian citizenship. I will like to be pround of my country and stop to be considered as a colony. Until the queen will get out, Canada never really a real country.

Some of you say we are pacific and etc.. We can to be pacific without to let all people doing their law in our house. Sometime, we should be less pacific and assert our Canadian identity, not britanique but only Canadian

All right, time to put your money where your mouth is.

It's been posted that you are of French descent. The question is, why do you insist on clinging to French traditions? After all, the French got their asses kicked all over North America by the English, so why are you still speaking French when they clearly were the weakest and least worthy nation who attempted to colonize North America? Clearly, Canada will never be taken seriously until we realize that this fair treatment of people with French background ends.

If you're really lobbying to be progressive, then along with getting rid of the monarchy, get rid of the French language, RC church, the notion of a distinct society, the idea of separatism and every other French tradition that you hold dear.

Fair is fair, right?

 

[mazingerz]

All right, time to put your money where your mouth is.

It's been posted that you are of French descent. The question is, why do you insist on clinging to French traditions? After all, the French got their asses kicked all over North America by the English, so why are you still speaking French when they clearly were the weakest and least worthy nation who attempted to colonize North America? Clearly, Canada will never be taken seriously until we realize that this fair treatment of people with French background ends.

If you're really lobbying to be progressive, then along with getting rid of the monarchy, get rid of the French language, RC church, the notion of a distinct society, the idea of separatism and every other French tradition that you hold dear.

Fair is fair, right?

You can dream but never we will be anglophone. It is 300 yers you try and fail. I know. Your arrogeance don't accept this but you should accept. Quebec will be francophone for ever. Ooooh yeah my friend.

But if I take your argument, we all should be spanish because the very very most part of america is spanish.

Entonces, mi amigo, vas deber comenzar a aprender el español, la futura lengua de todo el América según tu argumento. ¿Esto te agrada? Estoy seguro que sí

 

[Meesh]

You can dream but never we will be anglophone. It is 300 yers you try and fail. I know. Your arrogeance don't accept this but you should accept. Quebec will be francophone for ever. Ooooh yeah my friend.

But if I take your argument, we all should be spanish because the very very most part of america is spanish.

Entonces, mi amigo, vas deber comenzar a aprender el español, la futura lengua de todo el América según tu argumento. ¿Esto te agrada? Estoy seguro que sí

By that same reasoning, people have been trying to get rid of the Monarchy in Canada for the same length of time, and have failed. Your arrogance doesn't accept this but you should accept it. Same logic.

As to your second point, you're counting countries. Try counting population, then your point fails.

 

[S.C. Joe]

By that same reasoning, people have been trying to get rid of the Monarchy in Canada for the same length of time, and have failed.

.

Canada likely could not get rid of England and the Queen if it wanted to. Might take a war, who has more arms?

 

[Meesh]

Canada likely could not get rid of England and the Queen if it wanted to. Might take a war, who has more arms?

I'm not advocating (for either side, actually) - just pointing out the flaw in the logic.