My question is the title… Just curious. Seems easier. They're retired or have shit load of problems that they're most likely not working...
Why are the old and at-risk people not just quarantined?
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Naw… The middle-aged can look after shit and the kids for a few weeks. The geezers can emerge from hibernation to things that are truckin' along.
I agree with the OP.
It would be much easier to quarantine those folks.
Anyone who works with them must be virus free.
It would be much easier to quarantine those folks.
Anyone who works with them must be virus free.
Or better yet quarantine young folks who are more reckless and prone to pass it on to others. Think Rudy Gobert. I would think the old and those with health issues are more likely to self isolate regardless. The young want to go to clubs, bars, and gyms still. Oh, and they want pro sports to continue because athletes are young and healthy and unlikely to die.
It could kill anyone but most likely the elderly. Doesn't mean we all can get it like your friends. And that is the problem.
There are only 600 infected in all of Canada thus far. Are the infected people that you know escorts coming back from a sugardaddy vacation in China?
Oh Wow, Parker please give more detail if you can
It effects different people differently, most of what I was reading was young people could have it and not even know they have it
I never thought of thinking of it this way and it sounds like a great idea
The only way it would work is if 65+ year old totally isolation, no interaction with family let all the younger people get the virus have all the older people (retired already) stay in isolation for 4 weeks and slowly by year of birth have these people slowly come back into civilization and even if they would catch the virus, most would not need hospitalization and the numbers would be much smaller
This would of definitely have flatten the curve of the amount of people that needed hospitalization and it wouldn't of crippled our economy
The only way it would work is if 65+ year old totally isolation, no interaction with family let all the younger people get the virus have all the older people (retired already) stay in isolation for 4 weeks and slowly by year of birth have these people slowly come back into civilization and even if they would catch the virus, most would not need hospitalization and the numbers would be much smaller
This would of definitely have flatten the curve of the amount of people that needed hospitalization and it wouldn't of crippled our economy
Yeah, there was only 600 infected in all of Italy at one point. Proving that it's not just your cock that's small.
COVID-19 is primarily affecting the elderly may be greatly exaggerated....Not Just Seniors: French Doctors Report 50% Of ICU Patients Under 60 Years Old, Netherlands Under 50
It's beginning to look like someone's lying ( China & and also "MainstreamMedia" ) as both French and Dutch medical professionals are reporting that half of coronavirus ICU patients are under the age of 60 and 50-years-old respectively.
"MORE THAN 50% OF THE 300 #COVIDー19 CASES IN CRITICAL CONDITION IN FRANCE ARE UNDER 60," tweeted The Atlantic's Rachel Donadio on Saturday.
Rachel Donadio
@RachelDonadio
CX: FRANCE NOW PUSHING EPIDEMIC LEVEL. All restos, cafés, non-essential stores closed. MORE THAN 50% OF THE 300 #COVIDー19 CASES IN CRITICAL CONDITION IN FRANCE ARE UNDER 60; France has 4,500 cases, which doubled in the past 72 hours, said head of French health service. Replaces:
https://twitter.com/RachelDonadio/s...patients-under-60-years-old-netherlands-under
Meanwhile in the Netherlands, over half are reportedly under 50 years old.
"Today there are between forty and fifty corona patients in critical condition on Dutch intensive care units. “More than half of those patients are under fifty years old. There are also young people. "" That says chairman of the Dutch Association for Intensive Care (NVIC) Diederik Gommers, in an interview with this site." -AD.nl
Steve Lookner
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https://twitter.com/lookner/status/...patients-under-60-years-old-netherlands-under
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Over half of the coronavirus patients in intensive care in the Netherlands are under 50 years old
On Saturday, AD documented the case of a 16-year-old boy with no disclosed underlying conditions who wound up in the ICU after complaining of nausea and headaches. He is currently on ventilation in a medically-induced coma.
https://www.ad.nl/dossier-coronavir...patients-under-60-years-old-netherlands-under
"As long as he can't breathe properly himself, they keep him artificially asleep," said his 24-yaer-old brother Babor.
The reports suggest that COVID-19 is more than just a "boomer remover" - a phrase made popular by younger generations who think they're invincible.
Considering that US hospitals are projected to be completely full come mid-May, the implications of the coronavirus impacting more than just the elderly are significant.
The new reports of younger ICU patients echo unconfirmed accounts from Italian doctors:
In which case, reports that COVID-19 is primarily affecting the elderly may be greatly exaggerated.
It's beginning to look like someone's lying ( China & and also "MainstreamMedia" ) as both French and Dutch medical professionals are reporting that half of coronavirus ICU patients are under the age of 60 and 50-years-old respectively.
"MORE THAN 50% OF THE 300 #COVIDー19 CASES IN CRITICAL CONDITION IN FRANCE ARE UNDER 60," tweeted The Atlantic's Rachel Donadio on Saturday.
Rachel Donadio
@RachelDonadio
CX: FRANCE NOW PUSHING EPIDEMIC LEVEL. All restos, cafés, non-essential stores closed. MORE THAN 50% OF THE 300 #COVIDー19 CASES IN CRITICAL CONDITION IN FRANCE ARE UNDER 60; France has 4,500 cases, which doubled in the past 72 hours, said head of French health service. Replaces:
https://twitter.com/RachelDonadio/s...patients-under-60-years-old-netherlands-under
Meanwhile in the Netherlands, over half are reportedly under 50 years old.
"Today there are between forty and fifty corona patients in critical condition on Dutch intensive care units. “More than half of those patients are under fifty years old. There are also young people. "" That says chairman of the Dutch Association for Intensive Care (NVIC) Diederik Gommers, in an interview with this site." -AD.nl
Steve Lookner
@lookner
https://twitter.com/lookner/status/...patients-under-60-years-old-netherlands-under
21h
Over half of the coronavirus patients in intensive care in the Netherlands are under 50 years old
On Saturday, AD documented the case of a 16-year-old boy with no disclosed underlying conditions who wound up in the ICU after complaining of nausea and headaches. He is currently on ventilation in a medically-induced coma.
https://www.ad.nl/dossier-coronavir...patients-under-60-years-old-netherlands-under
"As long as he can't breathe properly himself, they keep him artificially asleep," said his 24-yaer-old brother Babor.
The reports suggest that COVID-19 is more than just a "boomer remover" - a phrase made popular by younger generations who think they're invincible.
Considering that US hospitals are projected to be completely full come mid-May, the implications of the coronavirus impacting more than just the elderly are significant.
The new reports of younger ICU patients echo unconfirmed accounts from Italian doctors:
In which case, reports that COVID-19 is primarily affecting the elderly may be greatly exaggerated.
Google is your friend
When people write would of, should of, could of, will of or might of, they are usually confusing the verb have with the preposition of.
Don't get me wrong. We're on the same trajectory as Italy... perhaps worse. But statistically speaking, it's incredible that one person personally knows 4 infected people. Most of the originally infected had visited China, hence my question.
You want me to go to a Fox News hack for my information? I’ll stick with Ontario’s Ministry of Health.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/coronavirus-patient-1.5502501
Would Mainstream media liberal CBC do. Here another 25 year old Canadian got the covid-19
Recovering COVID-19 patient describes what it was like to have the virus
David Anzarouth is going public to persuade others to take the novel coronavirus seriously
Bobby Hristova · CBC News · Posted: Mar 20, 2020 4:00 AM ET | Last Updated: 4 hours ago
David Anzarouth, 25, hopes that by coming forward and sharing his experience with COVID-19, he can provide a 'cautionary tale' to persuade people to take the coronavirus seriously and practise social distancing. (Submitted by David Anzarouth)
David Anzarouth knew it could happen to anyone but never thought it would happen to him.
The fit 25-year-old living in Toronto didn't worry about taking his vacation to South Beach in Miami, Fla., in early March.
But 10 days later, he found himself sitting in an isolated emergency room at Toronto General Hospital, wearing a mask and feeling "the most incredible pain that I've ever experienced" as he was tested for COVID-19.
A day later, the former McMaster University student learned he was infected with the virus that has led to massive disruptions in Canada and around the world as governments scramble to limit its impact.
"I can't put into words how different this feels than anything I've ever experienced before," Anzarouth told CBC News.
Partying with thousands and sharing accommodation
He arrived in Miami on March 5 with his friend to take part in the Winter Party festival. It wasn't his first time there. Anzarouth knew what to expect — a week full of lasers, lights, music and dancing.
At the time, COVID-19 cases in Canada had just started appearing.
"It was definitely on everybody's mind but … at the time, we thought, 'Let's not lose all this money,' I myself have been needing a vacation, so I said 'Let's go,'" Anzarouth said.
After a week of nightlife among thousands of people, travelling with a group of about 20 and sharing a hotel room with three others, including a friend from Toronto, Anzarouth flew back on March 11.
That's when things started to change. He said he felt "drugged" as if he was "completely out of it" during his Air Canada flight, AC1977, directly to Toronto Pearson Airport.
"At that point, [airport staff] were only asking if I went to China within the last 14 days or Italy," Anzarouth said.
"They weren't doing any sort of medical checks. They weren't doing anything further."
Anzarouth went straight to his apartment on Yonge Street, where he lives alone.
Then, one of his friends sent a message in their group chat saying he was ill. It prompted Anzarouth to email his boss at Toronto's TD Bank North Tower and ask to work from home. He says his supervisor obliged.
'The most incredible pain I've ever experienced'
The next evening on March 12, the virus hit him full force.
"The minute I woke up, I was drenched in a pool of sweat. I was shaking. I was so cold. My head was pounding. It was something like I've never experienced before," Anzarouth said.
"It was the most incredible pain I've ever experienced ... My body felt like I had been flattened."
He didn't know what was wrong, but whatever it was had left Anzarouth debilitated and bedridden until Saturday evening, two days later.
Still, he couldn't stomach a slice of toast or hold himself up in the shower.
"There were points where I thought I might need to call 911 and to get picked up and to go to a hospital," Anzarouth said.
Anzarouth says despite exercising more than four times a week and eating healthily, COVID-19 hit him with symptoms that felt unlike anything he's ever experienced before.
That night, his mouth and throat began to feel parched, and he struggled to breathe as he lay in bed, sleeping for no longer than 30 minutes at a time.
The next morning, Sunday, March 15, Anzarouth started to get answers. An email viewed by CBC News shows the organizers from the Winter Party festival discovered multiple attendees had tested positive for COVID-19 and alerted other guests. The organizers verified the email.
"At that point I thought, 'I need to do something now,'" he said.
Quickly isolated in hospital
That night, he put on a mask he picked up from the airport and called an Uber to take him to Toronto General Hospital.
He said he was out of the waiting area within 25 minutes and placed in a holding room while staff cleaned a different empty room for him to stay in.
After that, Anzarouth said two doctors and a nurse spoke to him from behind a closed door. When they tested him for various strains of influenza and X-rayed his chest for pneumonia, each was covered in a full gown from head-to-toe.
"The final swab for COVID-19 was an incredibly painful swab they stick far up one of your nostrils," Anzarouth said.
He left the hospital that night, not touching anything and returning to his apartment.
Less than 24 hours later, the doctor called back — Anzarouth had COVID-19.
"There's no one to blame … I understand that I put myself into a place where I risked my health," he said.
A document viewed by CBC News shows the University Health Network asked Anzarouth's employer to have him work from home. TD Bank also told CBC News it is "aware of a positive COVID-19 test of a TD colleague" who "self-isolated upon return from travel and did not come to work."
'This is something that's going to take all of us to fix'
Four days after learning he is infected, Anzarouth is still recovering.
He's taken some acetaminophen to help dull the symptoms, but there is no treatment yet for COVID-19. His body has to recover on its own. His friend, meanwhile, hasn't experienced any symptoms at all.
On Thursday evening, Anzarouth shared his story on social media.
While COVID-19 can manifest differently in different people, and some have reported much milder symptoms than Anzarouth, he is hoping his story will catch the attention of those who still don't take the virus seriously and underline the importance of social distancing practices, such as avoiding unnecessary travel and staying two metres away from others.
"It could happen to anyone," he said.
"This is something that's going to affect all of us. This is something that's going to take all of us to fix."
PS. FYI: Some Previously recovered covid-19 patients found to have lung damage ( 20% lung damage).
