Who would you vote for Mayor of Toronto?

Who will you vote for?


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andythegreek

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Dominatrix Carlie Rich claims lots of her clients work at City Hall and holds a power over them, said she will not mention any names but will whip City Council in to shape .
Shes got my Vote!
 

onthebottom

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I'm rooting for Chow simply for the comic value - hard to top Rob Ford though….. you guys may have set a new standard.
 

Butler1000

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I'm rooting for Chow simply for the comic value - hard to top Rob Ford though….. you guys may have set a new standard.
I watch Jon Stewart. We may have it in quality but there is no way we come close in quantity of comic relief in politics........
 

Butler1000

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I am starting to hate the importance of the DRL vs subway conflict in this election.
There already was a huge region-wide plan to improve transit, that city council blew up.
That 8 km Scarborough line is a tiny little fraction of the city's overall transpo situation, and the attention it is getting is way out of proportion compared to the number of people who will use it.

There are so many other issues that need to be addressed - and are not.
As I thought transit is the issue for this election. Just like the unions were in the last. Call the extension the benchmark for whether the city will or won't build subways. Its a small piece but its the first. Lose it and we see another 20 years of dithering in many minds. Mine included.

And its going to get worse so get ready. Polarize the city again. Add the Gardiner as well.
 

onthebottom

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I watch Jon Stewart. We may have it in quality but there is no way we come close in quantity of comic relief in politics........
No, you're generally a boring people, thus not very funny, Rob really got you some airtime….

And it's probably worth noting that Jon's show is a US show and most American's couldn't name 3 Canadian Pols - Harper and Ford probably being the only two.
 

Butler1000

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No, you're generally a boring people, thus not very funny, Rob really got you some airtime….

And it's probably worth noting that Jon's show is a US show and most American's couldn't name 3 Canadian Pols - Harper and Ford probably being the only two.
Boring in politics yes. I would consider that a good thing.

Other wise? Why do you think Americans import so many Canadian Comics? Because we are funnier. That's why.
 

Jennifer_

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I am starting to hate the importance of the DRL vs subway conflict in this election.
There already was a huge region-wide plan to improve transit, that city council blew up.
That 8 km Scarborough line is a tiny little fraction of the city's overall transit situation, and the attention it is getting is way out of proportion compared to the number of people who will use it.

There are so many other issues that need to be addressed - and are not.
I agree but I do see candidates' stance on the Scarborugh subway as indicative and I do base my trust in a candidate's fiscal responsibility in their stance on the subway.

If you support it despite city staff's educated position, I view you as a liar who is buying votes and nothing more....


anyone who supports it is supportive of taking our taxes to pay for a transit line that cannot even pay for itself over the next 30 years. ... (to buy votes ...)

I agree there are other issues but I do strongly view the subway as a big issue

I like Tory- I can see him being capable of uniting the polarized city we live in.. i fear Chow may end up being divisive in the same way Ford is.so I am not saying I won't consider Tory... But if nothing comes up to motivate me to pick anyone other than Chow, she has my vote.
 

Jennifer_

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http://youtu.be/_vCpKUNRBEw

When people are pro subway based on promises made by this guy ... who has no clue what he is convincing people to support... and legit politicuans are too chicken shit to educate people on the truth in the way only Chow and Soknacki are... i think it's fair to use the Scarborugh subway as a barometer on who to trust.
 

Lovehobby

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With all due respect.. You sound like a quack and do nothing for the left wing argument.
The above is the left wing argument.

listen to Andrea Horwath. Transtit yes. Tax increase on middle class? No.
 

Lovehobby

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It won't be enough.

If you really want to pay for such things through higher taxes, you should be arguing higher taxes for the majority of voters. Otherwise, it's no different than claims that you'll pay for transit by finding efficiencies.
Wrong. Business has enormous interests involved. Look at Scarborough Town Centre Fsirview Mall .... tax all the big biz along the routes.
 

Anbarandy

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As I thought transit is the issue for this election. Just like the unions were in the last. Call the extension the benchmark for whether the city will or won't build subways. Its a small piece but its the first. Lose it and we see another 20 years of dithering in many minds. Mine included.

And its going to get worse so get ready. Polarize the city again. Add the Gardiner as well.
Pardon the interruption but the reality is that 'transit' is NOT the issue of this election. The issue is WASTE. Waste in the form of squandering, when the final tally is in, 2billion plus of property taxpayer hard earned dollars on a vote-buying 3 stop Scarborough GRAVY TRAIN.

The Scarborough GRAVY TRAIN is not a benchmark for whether the city will or won't build subways in the future, it is a benchmark for whether Torontonians will vote for candidates who support WASTE or those who oppose wasting scarce resources and precious tax dollars all in the name of vote buying and political pandering.

It is also a benchmark for whether Torontonians have actually woken up to smell the stench of waste that is Scarborough GRAVY TRAIN and the fanciful fairytales of free DRLs and a subway in every driveway when they are spun to them by candidates Ford/Tory/Stintz.

1) Lose the Scarborough GRAVY TRAIN, vote Chow or Soknacki, free thyself and the city from wasteful spending and spenders.

2) Reject transit fairytales that are spun by the fairy tellers, vote Chow and Soknacki for transit reality and truth.
 

Butler1000

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If the issue is waste then can I assume you're ready to throw all of the city unions under the bus to get their salaries, pensions, double overtime and other perks not shared by the private sector workers under control?

Ready to take the 50+ million dollar homes in Toronto housing sitting vacant and sell them?

Need I continue?

Anyway the issue IS shaping up to be transit. That's what everyone is talking about. That you consider building infrastructure a waste is an opinion. And one not shared by many.

You hate it because it was Ford who put together funding for it from all three levels of govt and got it passed through council despite all the issues on his personal side. If it had of been Miller you would have supported it and anyone who didn't would have been a neo-con car lover who doesn't want to see the city grow.

That's your issue to deal with. Its personal. Just like Matt. I get it. But I don't take political decisions personally. I look at it objectively.

And I support subway building.
 

onthebottom

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Boring in politics yes. I would consider that a good thing.

Other wise? Why do you think Americans import so many Canadian Comics? Because we are funnier. That's why.
Oh yeah, funny comics, was simply talking politics.
 

AdamH

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No, you're generally a boring people, thus not very funny, Rob really got you some airtime….

And it's probably worth noting that Jon's show is a US show and most American's couldn't name 3 Canadian Pols - Harper and Ford probably being the only two.
That's hysterical.. You think most Americans could name our Prime Minister? You're such a card.
 

AdamH

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The above is the left wing argument.

listen to Andrea Horwath. Transtit yes. Tax increase on middle class? No.
It's not THE left wing argument. It's A left wing argument. And not the best one at that.

I think it could be more easily argued (maybe) that we should all be chipping in more, and that the rich should probably be chipping in more than the rest of us.. But to declare that the rich should simply look after the rest of us (or exclusively bear the burden of any additional tax needs) is short sighted. It does nothing to sway anybody on the fence over the issues of taxation.
 

oldjones

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Absolutely right Adam. Mayors, Premiers and PMs have promised us everything can be paid for and lower taxes to boot for decades, because they will find the waste they guy before them promised to eliminate and didn't. It's why Miller campaigned with a broom as his symbol. Rob's version was the gravy boat, and like every pol before him, he sank it.

Because guess what? There's always waste. It's a law of the universe. The only thing you can do is tediously, thoughtfully, carefully and intelligently build you system as efficiently as possible and then conscientiously maintain it constantly at that level. No pol who starts running for the next election the day she takes office can ever do that. Because that costs money, and takes expert attention from professionals. You want a pro, you gotta pay them. We used to call them civil servants, a term of respect.

The only thing our pols are professional about is politics: the art of promising without de************. Like Rob, and countless anti-establishment pols before him, all she can accomplish is to destroy morale, distract staff from their purpose, and arbitrarily cut funds to impress voters with simple spectacles while leaving unfunded problems for some future administration. So we taxpayers rightly complain our government is all cost and no de************ and the little they do manage is—quel surprise!—done badly and too late.

Then we contentedly give Rogers monthly access to our money in exchange for nothing worth watching but lots and lots of it and snuggle in to goggle at clwnshows like Rob Goes to Hollywood, while the community we're too cheap and disinterested to pay for goes to ratshit, the sewers flood and the roads crumble. It we were right to pick TV over taxes, if we're gonna pay for crap.

Because we forgot: The less you pay, the less you get. And doesn't that make for a better life for all. Maybe if we stopped listening to people who say they can do it all with leftovers and picked someone good ….
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Butler1000

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Could the word delition be to prevent limo advertisments? Or maybe a specific one (driver) who spammed for ladies to drive.

That or its to prevent your lady Thompson from showing off her new prefered mode of transportation.......
 

KBear

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And I support subway building.

The union types hate subways. The unions love and are pushing busses, streetcars and LRTs as they require more drivers, more maintenance, generally much more union labor to run and maintain. The TTC guys out cleaning the outdoor streetcar tracks and lines are paid $45/hour plus benefits & pension.

Chow is buying the union vote when she is pushing more busses and the LRT. How popular would this decision be if she also said the cleaning and maintenance for these busses would be done by private contractors. Chow is redirecting money intended for infrastructure to buy union labor and their vote.
 
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