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Who Is Viktor Bout, the Arms Dealer in the Swap for Brittney Griner?

dirtydaveiii

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So then you agree with the deal to end the war?
No the donut accord was the worst deal ever made by the US. WORST DEAL IN HISTORY. Biden would have actually negotiated and had the afghani government present and in agreement not like bendover boyfriend Donnie
 

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No the donut accord was the worst deal ever made by the US. WORST DEAL IN HISTORY. Biden would have actually negotiated and had the afghani government present and in agreement not like bendover boyfriend Donnie
What would have been negotiated?
 

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Trump set 5000 American hating terrorists free, gave the taliban Afghanistan after spending trillions of dollars and 20 years fighting, Trump also allowed the taliban to keep billions in aid sent from united states what did the master negotiator get in return? His ass handed to him. Absolutely fucking nothing. So who is worse? The guy that sold the taliban some arms or the guy that set them free ans gave them a country along with billions in arms from the US military - FOR FREE! But hey they are tough negotiators so the GOPee needs to give Donnie a pass
Shhhh. You may hurt the reputation of the master of 6he deal. You know the only twice impeached POTUS in history, the guy whose company was convicted of multiple counts of fraud. Whose foundation was shut down for fraud, who tried to orchestrate the overturning of an election and insurrection, who has had numerous bankruptcies. Is that the guy you are referring to?
 

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What would have been negotiated?
Gee maybe to give the US billions of dollars back they sent in aid and an agreement to peacefully withdraw troops. Also that the Afghani government maintains some power. I am sure the people of Afghanistan really love America lol
 

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Gee maybe to give the US billions of dollars back they sent in aid and an agreement to peacefully withdraw troops. Also that the Afghani government maintains some power. I am sure the people of Afghanistan really love America lol
So the Taliban would have said no. Or waited until they were out, overthrew the incompetent, corrupt USA one in about 3 days, and we would be where we are today. And the Aid was already stolen by the Warlords and USA backed politicians.

There was NEVER going to be change there. These people have literally lived the same lives for 1000 years. Had pretty much fought off every single invader in those 1000 years. Just by not EVER GIVING UP. They don't negotiate, they just bide their time. They don't care about today, they care about the next life and what the Koran says. That's it. Notice how things went right back? That's because almost all the men want it that way. So unless you are prepared to kill all the men, and decent sized portion of the women, you can't win against Muslims. Just contain then, whittle them, and never let them become the majority .

Ask Indonesians. You are watching live the creation of the next Iran/Afghanistan.
 

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So the Taliban would have said no. Or waited until they were out, overthrew the incompetent, corrupt USA one in about 3 days, and we would be where we are today. And the Aid was already stolen by the Warlords and USA backed politicians.

There was NEVER going to be change there. These people have literally lived the same lives for 1000 years. Had pretty much fought off every single invader in those 1000 years. Just by not EVER GIVING UP. They don't negotiate, they just bide their time. They don't care about today, they care about the next life and what the Koran says. That's it. Notice how things went right back? That's because almost all the men want it that way. So unless you are prepared to kill all the men, and decent sized portion of the women, you can't win against Muslims. Just contain then, whittle them, and never let them become the majority .

Ask Indonesians. You are watching live the creation of the next Iran/Afghanistan.
You still got your old theory that as soon as the Muslim population of Canada hits 5%, the Pakistani IT guys at your company will suddenly declare jihad and shoot you?
 
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Trump set 5000 American hating terrorists free, gave the taliban Afghanistan after spending trillions of dollars and 20 years fighting, Trump also allowed the taliban to keep billions in aid sent from united states what did the master negotiator get in return? His ass handed to him. Absolutely fucking nothing. So who is worse? The guy that sold the taliban some arms or the guy that set them free ans gave them a country along with billions in arms from the US military - FOR FREE! But hey they are tough negotiators so the GOPee needs to give Donnie a pass
And btw, it was the US military's job to organize the withdrawal. They are under civilian control. But what they did is try to delay while they tried to convince the WH not to go. Just like they did to Obama. The Military is used to getting it's way. They wanted the war to go on because it gave them more bases near Iran, Russia, and China. A place to season troops, test new equipment.

So any issues with the withdrawal are not on Trump, nor are they on Biden.

They are solely and completely on the US Military. They had the time to do it, properly, and squandered it
 

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And btw, it was the US military's job to organize the withdrawal. They are under civilian control. But what they did is try to delay while they tried to convince the WH not to go. Just like they did to Obama. The Military is used to getting it's way. They wanted the war to go on because it gave them more bases near Iran, Russia, and China. A place to season troops, test new equipment.

So any issues with the withdrawal are not on Trump, nor are they on Biden.

They are solely and completely on the US Military. They had the time to do it, properly, and squandered it
but fox news roasted biden because a few troops got killed and 6b in shitty military stuff got left there so are they liars ?
 

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but fox news roasted biden because a few troops got killed and 6b in shitty military stuff got left there so are they liars ?
Yes. They were. As I said, ALL responsibility for the shitty withdrawal is on the Military chain of command. Right up to the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
 
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And btw Dave you still haven't said if you think the deal with Griner was a good one. You just deflected.

So back to the thread topic do you support releasing the arms dealer for her?
 

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This a royal fuck up by Biden. A complete and utter fuck up. Any deaths as a result of letting this man out in exchange for a stupid person like Griner are on his hands and hers.
You don't think Putin has 100 Bouts and replaced this dude the day after the US nabbed him?
 

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So…as expected, the terb righties find a way to shit on the return of an American hostage because they don’t want Biden to ever to get credit for anything. And if Griner had not been returned they would bitch about Biden’s ineffectiveness.

Childish.

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So…as expected, the terb righties find a way to shit on the return of an American hostage because they don’t want Biden to ever to get credit for anything. And if Griner had not been returned they would bitch about Biden’s ineffectiveness.

Childish.

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Not in my case. If he didn't make a deal I have no problem with her in prison. She chose to bring her vape in. Its all on her.

Honestly she shouldn't have even been in the equation. Paul Whelan should have been the one to trade for. Or not at all. Bout is a sociopathic monster.
 

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He was sentenced to 25 years, he already did 10, and probably has another 2.5 years left for good behavior.
 

dirtydaveiii

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And btw Dave you still haven't said if you think the deal with Griner was a good one. You just deflected.

So back to the thread topic do you support releasing the arms dealer for her?
I don't agree with a lot of things the leaders of the United states and Canada do. America has been supplying arms to terrorists since the United states was a country. Who do you think supplied Hitler in wwii? Who sells arms to the Saudis who funded 9/11 ? An arms dealer is nobody on the world stage. This guy is like a back alley crack dealer or an sp street walker - completely insignificant. He won't be able to do business anymore so who gives a fuck ? Once again it's the Biden Obsession at work where he can't even ride a bike without getting criticized. I personally could give two fucks about an idiot athlete or an insignificant arms dealer. Move on to something with meaning.
 
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I don't agree with a lot of things the leaders of the United states and Canada do. America has been supplying arms to terrorists since the United states was a country. Who do you think supplied Hitler in wwii? Who sells arms to the Saudis who funded 9/11 ? An arms dealer is nobody on the world stage. This guy is like a back alley crack dealer or an sp street walker - completely insignificant. He won't be able to do business anymore so who gives a fuck ? Once again it's the Biden Obsession at work where he can't even ride a bike without getting criticized. I personally could give two fucks about an idiot athlete or an insignificant arms dealer. Move on to something with meaning.
So then why enter the thread?
 
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