White people, do you personaly feel white privelege guilt? Are you to blame?
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Don't gloat, it's had to summon much guilt, though. In life you use whatever advantages you have to live your life as well as possible. It's the bigots that brag about it, or even those who ridicule the facts about racism. It's enough to piss off the Pope!...
Well, it’s pretty straight forward. When I went to University the proportion of individuals of Asian and Indian descent where much greater than their proportion of the general population. I find the same when I go to deal with a professional (Dr, P.Eng., dentist etc…). The percentage of Asians and Indians in these jobs is much greater than their proportion of the general population. If ‘White Privilege’ and ‘White Supremacy’ were real things one would not have these empirical findings. Same thing goes for crime and the police. If your hypothesis is correct we should see police arresting and beating Asians and Indians at a very high rate. Given that the police aren’t doing this, the only thing we can conclude is that your hypothesis about ‘White Privilege’ existing is wrong and you need to adjust your theory.
Also, as any white person who has walked through downtown Winnipeg, or Regent Park, or downtown Tokyo can tell you, black people aren’t the only ones who get called names and are made to fear for their safety due to the colour of their skin.
I went to University with the same people, and I assure you, they all had horrific stories of racist experiences. As I have said numerous times in this thread, I am not saying they cannot be economically successful. I am saying they will, on average, face more adversity, and on the daily experience racist bullshit.
I've lived in Regent park, never been called a name. And Tokyo isn't Canada.
I've lived in Regent park, never been called a name. And Tokyo isn't Canada.
Well, DUH! Any Sociologist worth his salt will tell you that anyone who self identifies as a specific race is by definition racist. You certainly don't have to be white to be racist, but white racism is by far the most institutionalized. White mans' burden and so on...
I never got past grade 10, that does not preclude that my version of the truth is any less viable in discussion than anyone else's opinion of the truth. I think referencing academic accolades in any type of debate regardless of the subject is a flawed proposition, dare I say it is a form of soft discrimination against those less educated than others. I also see the bolstering of ones' opinion and credibility with the use of academic achievements as subtly indicating the weakness of ones' ability to support their views based solely on the merit of their view.
If you have a degree in political science the opinions you can present to support your views on such a subject should be self-supporting without mention of your academic background, no? Even when you feel you are making that association as a legitimate factor in the point you are making.
Fair or no?
He also made such an academic assertion which was not necessary for him to make his point. I have a firm grip on the discussions thanks. I do feel that people often mention their academic backgrounds to weight their opinions and often they do it with subtle innocence, I often wonder if they even realize they do it with the exceptions of when someone points it out as I have which is like catching someone picking their nose, they always say they were just scratching an itch.
This can't go anywhere and I have no investment in it. Just an observation.
So if you are well in hand with the discussion, why didn't you comment to him instead?
Thing is we can change or hide most of those things when going for a job interview or to a bank. It's a bit hard to hide your skin tone.
And yes, I was poor in most of my childhood and went to a couple 'bad' schools. Unlike my non-white friends from then, several of who were easily as smart and harder working than me, a suit and business-like speech had me fitting in.
Define almost nobody. I'd say that most people in North America are smart enough to be openly racist in company they don't know but I've heard plenty of people being overtly racist in situations they felt comfortable.
I think I mentioned that it isn't and shouldn't be about guilt but simply a realizations that I've had opportunities that non-white people didn't get and a desire to make things more equitable in the future.
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Black people have been convicted of crimes at a higher rate. That doesn't mean black people committed more crimes.
So the recent attacks on Muslims by Buddhists in Myanmar or Sri Lanka?
Maybe with the exception of some of the high power tech companies, have you looked at the ethnic make up in upper management, owners, and board members?
And an article from CNN today talking about the nationwide obsession with a missing blond woman.
www.cnn.com
www.cnn.com
How 'missing White woman syndrome' has real life implications | CNN Business
Mara Schiavocampo explains how intense media coverage of White women who go missing, as in the case of Gabby Petitio, can have real-life implications for women of color who are often not covered by the media.
www.cnn.com
These families of missing Black people are frustrated with the lack of response to their cases | CNN
The parents of Jelani Day, Daniel Robinson and Keeshae Jacobs say their cases have not received the same attention as high-profile cases like Gabby Petito
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I haven't posted to this thread, I had nothing to add. Until I heard the verdict in the R Kelly case, he's been found guilty of racketeering and sex trafficking - R Kelly is also a Scientologist. Black people should not become Scientologists, they are not afforded the same rights and privileges as their white cult members. David Miscavige, John Travolta and Tom Cruise are probably guilty of the same crimes yet they are protected. Travolta probably committed manslaughter twice and Cruise is a foremost advocate of slavery - they are white.
When R Kelly is finally released from prison he's going to find out he's bankrupt, so was Isaac Hayes when he died. His death could have been prevented.
Just another example.And an article from CNN today talking about the nationwide obsession with a missing blond woman.
How 'missing White woman syndrome' has real life implications | CNN Business
Mara Schiavocampo explains how intense media coverage of White women who go missing, as in the case of Gabby Petitio, can have real-life implications for women of color who are often not covered by the media.These families of missing Black people are frustrated with the lack of response to their cases | CNN
The parents of Jelani Day, Daniel Robinson and Keeshae Jacobs say their cases have not received the same attention as high-profile cases like Gabby Petito
What is absolutely clear is that the word privileged has become a very divisive word, it’s purpose today is to cut, hurt and to bring people down.
It only causes friction. I see it spat verbally all the time with phrases like “check your privilege”.
No good will come of this in our NA society.
It only causes friction. I see it spat verbally all the time with phrases like “check your privilege”.
No good will come of this in our NA society.
