Which new fridge?

peeler_feeler

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I know this is an escort review board but I appreciate the collective wisdom and any thoughts or comments are appreciated.

After our current Amana fridge of 10 years has given up, with a new coil costing $400 to repair we decided to buy new. My other half and I have settled on a french door, bottom freezer and have narrowed down to 2 units:

http://www.kitchenaid.ca/en/ProductFeatures/KBFS25EVMS.html

http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/...ors&subtype=frenchdoor&model_cd=RF267AASH/XAA

I prefer the samsung design she likes the kitchen aid. Checking the web both fridges have consumer complaints but I notice samsung has many negative posts about customer service.

So far have we have visited Caplans, Tasco, Sears and Future Shop. No consensus by the sales people... they all have their own agendas.
 
I've put a link in for the fridge I bought four months ago...

peeler_feeler said:
I know this is an escort review board but I appreciate the collective wisdom and any thoughts or comments are appreciated.

After our current Amana fridge of 10 years has given up, with a new coil costing $400 to repair we decided to buy new. My other half and I have settled on a french door, bottom freezer and have narrowed down to 2 units:

http://www.kitchenaid.ca/en/ProductFeatures/KBFS25EVMS.html

http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/...ors&subtype=frenchdoor&model_cd=RF267AASH/XAA

I prefer the samsung design she likes the kitchen aid. Checking the web both fridges have consumer complaints but I notice samsung has many negative posts about customer service.

So far have we have visited Caplans, Tasco, Sears and Future Shop. No consensus by the sales people... they all have their own agendas.
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This is a Maytag. Maytag and Kitchen aid are from the same parent company. I had its older brother 10 years ago. It worked well except for an ice through the door problem which has been fixed in later models.

Just to confuse the issue this is the one I recommend...:)

http://www.maytag.com/catalog/product.jsp?src=Refrigerators&cat=14&prod=1818

FYI - Sears own French door is a Maytag.
 
peeler_feeler said:
I prefer the samsung design she likes the kitchen aid.
There's your answer right there PF.

Is it more important to get the fridge you want or possibly live with the ramifications of her not getting what she wants?

I know my sanity is worth way more than any fridge.
 
peeler_feeler said:
Ishe likes the kitchen aid.

Why the hell are you asking our advice on why you want to be bitched at for the next 10 years?

SHE wants the Kitchen Aid. No amount of logical guy thought is going to make her happy. Buy what she wants.
 
I think the Ice & Water dispenser on the Samsung is indispensable (No pun).
 
Do NOT buy Kitchen Aid.

Trust me on this one.

I have Kitchen Aid Appliances. Or should I say, HAD Kitchen Aid Appliances. They should be called Kitchen Grief Appliances.

My built in oven sat in the box for years (long story). I finally took it out and sat it on a BnD Workmate to be able to use it and it hummed very noticeably. Kitchen Aid was called and a control transformer was replaced. Shortly thereafter, I had to replace the control head because the oven wasn't thinking properly. That did the trick, however, bear in mind, the oven didn't even have 5 hours on it at the time. I ended up replacing the kitchen appliances that barely had any time on them at all because of design changes to the kitchen.

In fairness, I have a KA fridge from 2001 which has given me no grief other than getting a bit noisy in its old age.

My kitchen aid washer has also broken down 3 times in 5 years. That's insane. My parents Maytag washer literally lasted 30 years. Not anymore boy. They are designed to be throw away after 4 to 5 years now.

My kitchen aid drier has this habit of sticking. The drum starts to squeal and I have to open the door and give it a kick so to speak.

Kitchen Aid is made by Whirlpool. Whirlpool owns everything. Maytag - Whirlpool, Kenmore - Whirlpool, Ammana - Whirlpool. You name it. If it's North American, it's more than likely Whirlpool.

According to my Cabinet Maker, there are only 2 appliances worth buying.

1. Miele

2. Bosch.

Yes, they are both brutally expensive.

My advice would be to get a copy of Consumers Reports for Appliances and see what they recommend.

Me personally, anything but Kitchen Aid.
 
Sheik said:
I'm shocked at you guys.....

The newest fridge I have is a hot point and its been running for 14 years with zero issues.

Well done, boys.

After almost eight years, someone has managed to shock Sheik.
 
james t kirk said:
Do NOT buy Kitchen Aid.

Trust me on this one.

I have Kitchen Aid Appliances. Or should I say, HAD Kitchen Aid Appliances. They should be called Kitchen Grief Appliances.

My built in oven sat in the box for years (long story). I finally took it out and sat it on a BnD Workmate to be able to use it and it hummed very noticeably. Kitchen Aid was called and a control transformer was replaced. Shortly thereafter, I had to replace the control head because the oven wasn't thinking properly. That did the trick, however, bear in mind, the oven didn't even have 5 hours on it at the time. I ended up replacing the kitchen appliances that barely had any time on them at all because of design changes to the kitchen.

In fairness, I have a KA fridge from 2001 which has given me no grief other than getting a bit noisy in its old age.

My kitchen aid washer has also broken down 3 times in 5 years. That's insane. My parents Maytag washer literally lasted 30 years. Not anymore boy. They are designed to be throw away after 4 to 5 years now.

My kitchen aid drier has this habit of sticking. The drum starts to squeal and I have to open the door and give it a kick so to speak.

Kitchen Aid is made by Whirlpool. Whirlpool owns everything. Maytag - Whirlpool, Kenmore - Whirlpool, Ammana - Whirlpool. You name it. If it's North American, it's more than likely Whirlpool.

According to my Cabinet Maker, there are only 2 appliances worth buying.

1. Miele

2. Bosch.

Yes, they are both brutally expensive.

My advice would be to get a copy of Consumers Reports for Appliances and see what they recommend.

Me personally, anything but Kitchen Aid.

James, didn't you try to get rid of that lemon in the Buy/Sell section. :D
 
We bought an LG french door bottom freezer about a year or so ago and we are super happy with it!

A word of advice though, we love LG products, we also bought the front load washer and dryer and the dishwasher. We would have had the range too but I insisted on the maytag double oven :D
DO NOT buy LG diswashers, they are junk, super quiet, but junk. I always ended up putting at least 4-5 peices back in for the next load because they were still dirty. We called sears and ended up replacing it with the same model because the repair guy figured something was wrong with the heater.
That ended up with the same problem so we had sears take it back and we ended up buying a Meile, best dishwasher I have ever used and the thing is so quiet I can't count how many times I have gone to put something in it only to forget it was running but I didn't realize it until I opened the door!

Anyway,only issue with the fridge is that the repair guy said we should have it on some sort of surge protection because the electronics in the front panel are very sensitive to surges and brown outs, as I am sure any electronics are.
 
Just replaced my 17 year old Amana with an LG - loved the Amana but reno'd the kitchen, went with stainless appliances and wanted a bottom freezer fridge. Did a little research and got a pretty good price from Caplan's - so far, love the LG.

Timbit
 
I noticed both of those units have inbuilt ice/water dispensers, which are always troublemakers. Somehow it's hard for all manufacturers to get it right. I was talking to the Sears repair tech who replaced my fridge fan motor and a substantial portion of his work related to those features. I suggest looking at the models that don't have those dispensers, unless you like icy drinks all the time.

Also, those fridges are *massive*. If you live in an older home, your doorframe might not be big enough to fit those monsters.

IMO, reading review websites can be a little misleading because they can be biased by people with an axe to grind. Happy customers generally don't go out of their way to post positive reviews, unless they get compensated in some way. Think about it.

I suggest visiting some of the smaller shops and canvass their opinion too. Unlike the big boys, they can't afford to keep sending out their service guys all the time, so it's likely they'll sell the more reliable products.

My fridge is doing OK but if it dies, I'd be in the same position as you. Other factors to consider: how easy are the shelves to clean? Can they be easily removed? Does fingerprints show up on the stainless steel? How easy is it to clean the fingerprints? How noisy is it? What is the warranty like - is there a no questions asked return policy?
 
shack said:
There's your answer right there PF.

Is it more important to get the fridge you want or possibly live with the ramifications of her not getting what she wants?

I know my sanity is worth way more than any fridge.

Yeah, but after a while she'll get tired of KA's superficial good looks and pine for the practicality of a well designed Samsung, at which point....it's HIS fault for not standing up to her.

Yep, been there done that.:(
 
peeler_feeler said:
Are you happy so far with your new fridge? Any issues at all?

Did you buy any extended warranty?
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Everything is fine and yes I did buy the extended warranty. I love the fridge but didn't want any head aches....:)
 
wetnose said:
I noticed both of those units have inbuilt ice/water dispensers, which are always troublemakers. Somehow it's hard for all manufacturers to get it right. I was talking to the Sears repair tech who replaced my fridge fan motor and a substantial portion of his work related to those features. I suggest looking at the models that don't have those dispensers, unless you like icy drinks all the time.

Also, those fridges are *massive*. If you live in an older home, your doorframe might not be big enough to fit those monsters.

IMO, reading review websites can be a little misleading because they can be biased by people with an axe to grind. Happy customers generally don't go out of their way to post positive reviews, unless they get compensated in some way. Think about it.

I suggest visiting some of the smaller shops and canvass their opinion too. Unlike the big boys, they can't afford to keep sending out their service guys all the time, so it's likely they'll sell the more reliable products.

My fridge is doing OK but if it dies, I'd be in the same position as you. Other factors to consider: how easy are the shelves to clean? Can they be easily removed? Does fingerprints show up on the stainless steel? How easy is it to clean the fingerprints? How noisy is it? What is the warranty like - is there a no questions asked return policy?


Wife wants the ice dispenser and after much research i tend to agree with your Sears repair tech - they are usually more trouble and require repairs within 5 years.
 
Al Cohol said:
I'd buy a new one, but I'm afraid the new ones SUCK.

My 30 year GE fridge is working fine, never a problem. Why take a chance on a new one? If and when it dies, I'll deal with it then.
 
crystalpalace said:
James, didn't you try to get rid of that lemon in the Buy/Sell section. :D

Yeah, but I had fixed it (the oven) and it worked fine. Burners there was never an issue with. Both had less than 20 hours on them. I was getting stupid offers, so I just kept it all and decided to build a second kitchen in the basement.