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When SP/Client relationship goes outside of bedroom

Don Draper

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Hey Don, the quality of the girls in your sig pic just went up (or I just noticed).
Really? Thank you, Sir.

Every month I get at least half a dozen PM's complimenting my sig pic. I would have thought it was pretty consistent from month to month.
 

milehigh

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I see a lot of stereotypes. The women here are people, like everyone else. And the reasons for "off the clock meetings" vary, just like anyone else. It could be friend, someone to talk to, hang with, romance or what ever.... just like anyone else in civilian life.

I was lucky enough to have a long relationship with an MP. It was really important to her that she not be treated just like a piece of meat. We had one of the best relationships I have had. In the beginning... we had some difficulties feeling out what was acceptable. But we did work it out.

Some of the negative comments can be turned around on males clients.... He's fucked so many women, etc. So it does go both ways. Some civilian women who never date a guy who saw Sp's.

Anyone on the this board, male or female.... is no different from anyone else, except maybe for being more in tune with their sexuality.
 

mrsCALoki

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Most men can't handle it, in fact they will be jealous, insecure, suspicious, even attempt to undermine your success. I will never make that mistake.
I agree 100%. My observation is that there are very few men who can handle it. I may be generalising but from what I have been exposed to, some men like their woman having sex with other men (some odd and rare perversion) and some men want a woman who bring in money (aka the pimp mentality). Neither seem to offer a successful long term relationship.

The entire idea that some man wants to be involved with you, but cannot deal with it is very frustrating. How the hell do they expect you to maintain your life style? I found it incredibly difficult to learn to trust a man to take care of me long term.
 

Ben Hogan

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When I started in the industry the first year I did not much else ... I built my business. Just like everyone in business for themselves, I spent every penny I made on web development, photography, spa visits, wardrobe, and I worked every spare minute on research, client relations, advertising, marketing etc. It was a ton of work but it paid off and now my leisure time is spent with the friends and family I love. I make the effort to set aside time every week for personal endeavours. I've always wondered about the ladies who only have their SP life. Many are far from home, far away from friends and family. Joining a club, starting a hobby, etc are hugely important .. anything that doesn't involve the people and places you work with. Life is all about balance.
Wise words Jessica. Balance is key.
 

mrsCALoki

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Most men (me at least) are not interested in a woman who wants to be "taken care of" - they are looking for someone with a strong sense of self-worth and independence who will be an equal partner in a relationship. That happy median lies somewhere in between pimping out women and babysitting them - neither of which is healthy.
Well hun, In my case there is no way a student who has not even entered the full time work force could be the financial equal partner with a man who had worked and invested for a life time. And it was very difficult to deal with that discrepancy. I was afraid he was trying buy me and control me with his wallet, and he was afraid I was only there for money. He eliminated both fears by setting me free (financially). Like the old proverb says.... "set it free, if it does not stay with you it was never yours".

Granted he is still 10 times wealthier than I am, but I have more than enough to be ok for the rest of my life. So I stay because we love each other. I gave him 5 years of my life as a freely offered present so he did not have to be trapped where I was living and launching my career. In 4 years (one down 4 to go) we will settle down somewhere, socialize our son in a good school, and I will put my future in high gear and he will become a stay at home dad :).

The secret for us was to define our needs / fears and communicate them.
 

Rockslinger

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Dina Lohan is pushing her daughter to make money so Dina can continue to live the lifestyle (expensive) to which Dina has been accustomed.
 

Don Draper

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Thread title: "When SP/Client relationship goes outside of bedroom"

Dina Lohan is pushing her daughter to make money so Dina can continue to live the lifestyle (expensive) to which Dina has been accustomed.
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ColdHands

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It depends. Ask yourself these questions. Have you seen her much? Do you guys talk often? How well do you know each other? Think about it. She probably just wants to hang out as friends, or if she's single she may be looking for a financially stable boyfriend to pull her out of this business. If she has a boyfriend yet she's working in this line of business, chances are she's not going to be a loyal girl friend if you're looking for a relationship.
 

mrsCALoki

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It depends. Ask yourself these questions. Have you seen her much? Do you guys talk often? How well do you know each other? Think about it. She probably just wants to hang out as friends, or if she's single she may be looking for a financially stable boyfriend to pull her out of this business. If she has a boyfriend yet she's working in this line of business, chances are she's not going to be a loyal girl friend if you're looking for a relationship.
I suspect that any sane woman would be very nervous if a guy told her he loved her after seeing her for something like 20 hours. And most men would run for the hills if told the same thing
 

Rockslinger

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Here is the golden rule. Teachers should not date students. Doctors should not date patients. Lawyers and SP's should date clients. Break that rule and you will suffer grief.
 

Don

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And I am not talking about paid dinner dates, but when a girl wants to meet you on her time, just to hang out as she claims. How do you handle it?
Well if you genuinely like her company (besides the physical aspect), then go hang out with her. I had a few SPs whom I got to know on a more personal basis. It was (almost) like hanging out with any acquaintence. The key thing is to just hang out with her with no expectations of sex (unless she is looking for it). With the few I did get to know better, he had some good times just hanging out.
 

bobistheowl

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Most men (me at least) are not interested in a woman who wants to be "taken care of" - they are looking for someone with a strong sense of self-worth and independence who will be an equal partner in a relationship. That happy median lies somewhere in between pimping out women and babysitting them - neither of which is healthy.
Spoken like a thousandaire.
 

Foolishwon

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Really? Thank you, Sir.

Every month I get at least half a dozen PM's complimenting my sig pic. I would have thought it was pretty consistent from month to month.
I'm with Narg on this one. Wow!

Back on topic. This always ends badly.
 

mtm2011

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Most men can't handle it, in fact they will be jealous, insecure, suspicious, even attempt to undermine your success. I will never make that mistake.
There are lot's of men in the poly community that could handle it, no?

But that is if the man is allowed other partners also.

If not and the woman is just strictly fucking for business, I could see how that would be bothersome.

Personally the only thing that would bother me is if I couldn't get enough attention from her; I'd understand why but it would kind of suck to be in an exclusive relationship with someone that is too tired / busy / etc. to spend much time with you, no matter what type of job they do.
 

mrsCALoki

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Most men (me at least) are not interested in a woman who wants to be "taken care of" - they are looking for someone with a strong sense of self-worth and independence who will be an equal partner in a relationship. That happy median lies somewhere in between pimping out women and babysitting them - neither of which is healthy.
Spoken like a thousandaire.
I have ti admit I read your post 3 times before I got it. Very clever! And the more I thought about it the more I realised it was very insightful. There is not only a huge gap between the beliefs and attitudes of cultures but just as big a gap between major income brackets. The 'thousandaires" certainly do almost universally want their wives to be working. And they call that "self-worth" and "independant".

Once you get to the 'millionaires' the need and desire to have the spouse bringing in money starts to be less important.

And once you get to 'multi-millionaires' the main desire is to have a person to share life with to have available to do things with. Why be inconvenienced by your wife not being able to be with you when you have available time and she is trapped in a meaningless job?

I was impressed bobistheowl, you made something I had observed but never labelled very clear.

thank you
 

Rockslinger

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And once you get to 'multi-millionaires' the main desire is to have a person to share life with to have available to do things with. Why be inconvenienced by your wife not being able to be with you when you have available time and she is trapped in a meaningless job?
This is "trophy wife" territory.
 

mrsCALoki

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This is "trophy wife" territory.

Well hun, my hubby often introduces me as his 'trophy wife' and I introduce him as my 'dirty old man' So maybe. A trophy wife is a much more beautiful and desirable typically second wife that a rich and powerful man marries.

I have not conducted a survey on it, but based on 2 rafting parties, it appears that well over 3/4 of men there had attractive wives that were at least 20 years younger than they were.

So yes I guess it is a part of life when you stop being a 'thousandaire'
 
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