When should agencies reopen?
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How many are going to close down? That is a lot of capital not being used in the elaborate ones such as premier chains as well as rent. I imagine a lot are in financial trouble
They should be able to apply for the same $40,000 loans being handed out by the Governments. Maybe some landlords will opt for the reduced payment and let the Government pay 50% of the cost.
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Depends on what your goals are. If your goal is to make money then open immediately. There are Asian agencies that are open and undoubtedly making some money. There are SPs advertising on Leolist and making some money. The money to be made would be much less than before but you won't know how much less until you try opening. If your goal is to make money and be socially responsible then you are f*cked. Because it will not be possible to open and be socially responsible for a very, very long time. So if you don't care about being socially responsible, you might as well open immediately because unless you are willing to wait a very, very long time, you can't be socially responsible. Of course, this cuts both ways. The clients and the SPs, for the next long while, who participate in this business would be as equally immune to thoughts of social responsibility. If you are not willing to be socially responsible, then people will die because you opened, and the numbers will probably not be insignificant. If that doesn't bother you because there is money to be made then open when you will. If it does bother you, then your business is f*cked.
Of course, society has a willingness to tolerate risky activities that can result in death. Driving a car, for example. I would say that society will tolerate opening agencies and deem that a socially acceptable risk when erotic massage parlours are able to open and that probably will be sometime after legitimate massage businesses are allowed to open. Another correlation to look for are strip clubs. When strip clubs are given the go ahead, you can anticipate that agencies will be tolerated.
Of course, society has a willingness to tolerate risky activities that can result in death. Driving a car, for example. I would say that society will tolerate opening agencies and deem that a socially acceptable risk when erotic massage parlours are able to open and that probably will be sometime after legitimate massage businesses are allowed to open. Another correlation to look for are strip clubs. When strip clubs are given the go ahead, you can anticipate that agencies will be tolerated.
I wont be spending my money if services are not like pre-covid.
We were already taking risks before covid with contracting STI's and like others have stated, for the vast majority of us this thing will only be at worse a bad flu. It's actually best to get it now and get it done an over with right now when everyone is socially distancing, then you don't have to worry about catching it anymore or transmitting it to the vulnerable.
The goal as a society moving forward should be protecting the vulnerable and building herd immunity among the general population
We were already taking risks before covid with contracting STI's and like others have stated, for the vast majority of us this thing will only be at worse a bad flu. It's actually best to get it now and get it done an over with right now when everyone is socially distancing, then you don't have to worry about catching it anymore or transmitting it to the vulnerable.
The goal as a society moving forward should be protecting the vulnerable and building herd immunity among the general population
Freedom involves risk.
Obviously SPs should not be forced to work and any amended services should be made clear.
Obviously SPs should not be forced to work and any amended services should be made clear.
same here expect same service and maybe lower price due to enconomic supply and demand of the service.
Its a matter of one working girl dying and all agencies will shut down. Possible legal action by LE when all businesses were advised of physical distancing. Agency owners are in a limbo, if they take a risk and somebody dies, they are in hot shit. The world has changed and this is a new normal. Covid can kill anyone (young or old) don’t let somebody tell you otherwise. My little sister in her mid 20’s is diabetic and if I get infected, I can kill her because we live in a same house and there are millions of people like her. The youngest person who died due to Covid in Canada was either 14 or 16. The virus is here to stay for a long period of time. If people are expecting pre Covid services - its just not possible.
As one poster said you can blow and go doggy wearing a mask. I don't see it happening otherwise. My advise will be to wait for a few months or perhaps wait till 2021 to keep everyone safe. We don’t want to burden our overworked health workers because we wanted to get laid.
As one poster said you can blow and go doggy wearing a mask. I don't see it happening otherwise. My advise will be to wait for a few months or perhaps wait till 2021 to keep everyone safe. We don’t want to burden our overworked health workers because we wanted to get laid.
This is commonsensical and what I've been telling all my regulars (phase2/3).
On that note my hairdresser just sent out a mass text stating she'll be opening soon and asking everyone to wear gloves and masks and to note that there won't be a waiting area, so to come on one's own.
If agencies hope to work in an environment that was as safe as before the virus, we're looking at waiting until
a vaccine or effective treatment is widely available in the general population. That could be anywhere from
this coming autumn to 4 years from now. It's also possible that an effective treatment is never found and we
hope for herd immunity.
I don't think anyone could be blamed for waiting for that standard to return, as seeing an SP already comes
with risk, of course. That would mean, however, that many agencies would close down forever, and many
ladies would leave this line of work for good as they can't wait for the risk to subside (new ladies would of
course take their place).
For most, though, waiting with uncertainty for a period that may be years is too long and a calculated
risk will be taken. I think this risk should happen when the province gets to the end of it's phase-in:
when everyone is back at work (with social distance). There won't be live sports and travel will be
limited, but new cases will have declined significantly. We're probably looking at mid June for when
that happens.
Agencies should be up front about services the SP's will and won't offer and hobbyists need to be
responsible and not book if they're feeling unwell. There is no way to get around that there will be
risk in returning but people will have to be personally responsible.
a vaccine or effective treatment is widely available in the general population. That could be anywhere from
this coming autumn to 4 years from now. It's also possible that an effective treatment is never found and we
hope for herd immunity.
I don't think anyone could be blamed for waiting for that standard to return, as seeing an SP already comes
with risk, of course. That would mean, however, that many agencies would close down forever, and many
ladies would leave this line of work for good as they can't wait for the risk to subside (new ladies would of
course take their place).
For most, though, waiting with uncertainty for a period that may be years is too long and a calculated
risk will be taken. I think this risk should happen when the province gets to the end of it's phase-in:
when everyone is back at work (with social distance). There won't be live sports and travel will be
limited, but new cases will have declined significantly. We're probably looking at mid June for when
that happens.
Agencies should be up front about services the SP's will and won't offer and hobbyists need to be
responsible and not book if they're feeling unwell. There is no way to get around that there will be
risk in returning but people will have to be personally responsible.
Rather than us hobbyists telling agencies when they should open, I'd rather hear agencies tell US when they will open based on the health and safety measures they will be comfortable implementing across their places of business for both their employees and their customers.
Asking us places the decision about risk 100% on the Customers' shoulders. I think as responsible business owners, the decision is solely at the discretion of the operator.
I have yet to hear a single provider, indy or agency, state publicly what new safety measures, processes, protocols or procedures they plan to implement to protect themselves or their customers in the new business paradigm. The message I get more often is 'hey Customer, when will you likely feel most comfortable risking your health again in the skin game?'. Things have changed, and for many guys, that ain't going to cut it, unfortunately.
Asking us places the decision about risk 100% on the Customers' shoulders. I think as responsible business owners, the decision is solely at the discretion of the operator.
I have yet to hear a single provider, indy or agency, state publicly what new safety measures, processes, protocols or procedures they plan to implement to protect themselves or their customers in the new business paradigm. The message I get more often is 'hey Customer, when will you likely feel most comfortable risking your health again in the skin game?'. Things have changed, and for many guys, that ain't going to cut it, unfortunately.
How are the agencies putting the responsibility in our hands when they reopen their busineses? it is up to them and the girls that work for them when they reopen.
Makes sense to me for them to ask us what our expectations are so they can decide if they want to reopen or not.
Poll results have been consistent every time I check: 1/3 reopen within the next week, 2/3 reopen 2 months from now.
The decision re: Agencies re-opening isn't just a factor of when, based on how long they've been closed and how uncontrollably horny guys are getting. There are other considerations at play as well. As responsible business owners, they should assess all those other considerations and tell us when they believe it will be safe for them to re-open, and under what new protocols/practices. We as Customers can't and shouldn't define those things. We can make suggestions, but that's about it.
I'd rather hear an agency/indy say 'We think we will be re-opening on x date, with the following changes in place.' then ask 'Is this sufficient to earn your confidence back, and in turn, your business?'
Third phase may not be possible until a vaccine is found as stage 3 allows for larger gatherings with no real separation. This could be years from now.
If the intimate aspects of the services such as dfk, bbbj and daty are no longer there then they will NEVER get my business back. There are no extra safe guards they can put in place.
All I would ask if the girl is feeling unwell is that she not work until she feels 100% and I will do the same.
If the girl wears a mask, I am not going.
I agree with stage 3
let stage 2 open & happen for 2 weeks or so & decide from there,,,,, with guidelines for the clients & SP with no exceptions
let stage 2 open & happen for 2 weeks or so & decide from there,,,,, with guidelines for the clients & SP with no exceptions
This. Now or in 2 month - there is no difference until the vaccine is developed or the proportion of infected will goes way down (both will take at least a year). The problem is: many clients will be afraid of the standard options while safe options (no kissing, no DATY, CBJ, masks, and doggy or reverse cowgirl) may turn away others who either (i) enjoy intimacy more than sex or (ii) do not want to pay full price for limited options
It is just an estimate on his part. The time frame is not carved in stone and if it is still not safe, at that time the welfare of his family will still take precedent.
His message was that he will wait until such time as it is much safer than now.
