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Frankfooter

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No use talking to Frankfooter about this election.
It is his tactic turning every thread into an Israel thread.
He will keep pushing his little theory that Americans voted Harris out because of Gaza.
Americans couldn't give a shit about Gaza.
Except for a tiny minority.
That tiny minority was all it took.
5 million for Stein and who knows how many of the 15 million dem voters who stayed home.
 

bggolfingmaniac

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No use talking to Frankfooter about this election.
He will keep pushing his little theory that Americans voted Harris out because of Gaza.
Americans couldn't give a shit about Gaza.
Except for a tiny minority.
If I cared more, I'd rip him more often. But that's not why I come to this site.
15 million people who voted for Biden didn't vote at all this time.
Abandon Harris and people that just couldn't cross the red line of voting for genocide.
they stayed home because Harris was an empty suit and they didn't buy her or what she was selling, but go ahead and continue to feed your narrative.
 

roddermac

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Exactly.
In 2020 it was Hitler vs the old establishment guy.
In 2024 it was 100% Hitler vs 99% Hitler and 15 million dems just couldn't vote for any kind of a Hitler.

The dems that stood against the genocide did well.

Those 15 millions Dem voters aren't around anymore. You should ask yourself why that is because it has nothing to do with Hitler. Nothing does. Suck it up liberal.
 

Insidious Von

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every time i read one of your posts , I wind up scratching my head thinking WTF is this guy taking about?
i do not know who Bruce, puffy or J Low are ( Jennifer Lopez???)
it seems like you are telling insider jokes with yourself

they might be hilariously funny and entertaining jokes... if they were communicated properly
It's not a joke Johnny, hypocritical celebrities and post - Covid inflation did the Harris campaign in.

Ricky Gervais speaks truth to power.

 

JohnLarue

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They are polar opposites.
That is why Bernie would be a good counter to Trump.
but you stated trump was a substitute for Bernie
Many Sanders voters eventually became Trump voters.

Trump is not pro-business.
Pro-business would mean he would encourage profits over people.
you do not have a clue what you are talking about

He wants tariffs instead.
Which will make everything expensive for the manufacturer and the consumer.
He is a protectionist.
he is pro business, just USA centric


So he is not an economic genius either.
I never claimed he was an economic genius
standing next to Bernie he is

Bernie proposes more public spending (particularly healthcare) and taxation of corporations.
I support that, but beyond a line it may also not be economically sound to do so.
the problem is your lot can never get that line / balance right
increased public spending after a a never ending string of deficits and a now unsustainable debt burden is extremely irresponsible and stupid

neither Trump nor Harris were willing to address the debt bomb
the difference is who is spending the money Harris - more inefficient wasteful govt money going into green energy money pits
Trump will leave the money in the far more efficient private sector via tax cuts

Bernie?
he would just ensure the debt bomb explodes sooner


So the similarity is that both of their messaging is for the working class and the middle class.
Both reject the elites and challenge the establishment.
Sanders rejects the status quo because govt intrusion into peoples live is insufficient in his view
Trump rejects the status quo because govt has become an inefficient quagmire of piggies at the trough, who would regulate the economy to a grinding halt

That messaging will resonate.
That is certainly more substantive than the vapid and performative messaging that the Dems currently resort to.
This is not a rejection of the left as you put it.
it most certainly is
the democrats drove inflation not seen for a generation
inflation is political suicide for the incumbent party

if Trump does not get the govt spending / inflation under control , the republicans will suffer the same fate 4 years from now
that is irrelevant to Trump, who has satisfied his ego with this win


Going by that rule 2020 was a rejection of the right. (No I dont believe in the coo coo for coco puffs election fraud conspiracy theory. Biden won fair and square).
i will not go down the road of election fraud theories . that is a never ending unresolvable / quagmire
the number of votes cast in 2020 does raise an eyebrow though

2020 was not a rejection of the right. it was the perceived slow response to the pandemic that screwed Trump
A pandemic which in hindsight was a nothing burger with massive economic cost which will still need to be paid for

This has more to do with messaging that directly addresses the economy and everyday problems people face.
The democrats currently are disconnected from this.
that's why they lost , they got rejected for leaning too far left and driving inflation
and Bernie Sanders is definitely not the fix for that problem

Had the democrats fielded a level headed candidate who rejected the loonie left, they could have defeated the off putting repulsive personality of Trump
 
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oil&gas

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Ghawar
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Also Kamala got less female votes than Hillary or Biden

Maybe female voters were wary of giving power to a woman who is
known to have slept with a much older man to advance her career.
Many women have husbands working with attractive younger female
subordinates.
 

JohnLarue

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It's not a joke Johnny, hypocritical celebrities and post - Covid inflation did the Harris campaign in.

Ricky Gervais speaks truth to power.

i still do not know who Bruce, puffy or J Low are ( Jennifer Lopez???)
you really do need to review via the readers lens, what you have posted

it was not covid inflation
it was governments printing massive amounts of money thinking that was the correct response to covid
and they used each other's irresponsible money printing to justify their own irresponsible money printing

big mistake, as the left leaning world leaders at the time are each getting destroyed in elections because of the inflation they created
 

Frankfooter

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they stayed home because Harris was an empty suit and they didn't buy her or what she was selling, but go ahead and continue to feed your narrative.
Harris had protesters follow her throughout her campaign.
Palestine protests were the most massive protests since BLM.

Its idiotic that you don't think it affected people's voting.
 

The Oracle

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every time i read one of your posts , I wind up scratching my head thinking WTF is this guy taking about?
i do not know who Bruce, puffy or J Low are ( Jennifer Lopez???)
it seems like you are telling insider jokes with yourself

they might be hilariously funny and entertaining jokes... if they were communicated properly
I feel your confusion with this poster

Bruce I think is Kamala's husband. Puffy is Sean Combs and JLow is Jennifer Lopez.
 

oil&gas

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JT was being diplomatic.
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Trudeau did not come across as diplomatic when
he and his Liberals tried to draw parallel between
Trump and Pierre Poilivere. It could be that he is diplomatic
with Trump because he had no idea what Mick Jagger
had in mind when he told the world his band loved the
Trudeau family. Being as poorly informed as he is Trudeau
probably isn't aware Trump has told the world his druggie
mom as the 1st lady of Canada had sex with all the members
of Mick Jagger's band.[/QUOTE]
 

K Douglas

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First, the Democrats should have said a year earlier, “Hey Joe, you’re old and brutal and you should drop out so we can nominate someone who has a chance.”

Second, they didn’t have a proper primary to assemble the best candidates, they just handed it to Kamala Harris…in the 2020 democratic presidential primary she finished in 14th place, she was put in a tough position to save the election.

Third, Americans are not going to elect a women.

Fourth, she was all smiles and laughs during the rallies, that may be fine for a Christmas party but a presidential candidate has to show a little more toughness than she did.

Fifth, having Liz Cheney campaign with her probably lost her votes…the country hates her, both democrats and republicans

Six, Josh Shapiro would have been a better choice for VP, a popular Pennsylvania native wouldn’t have hurt her

Seven, all the anti-Trump talk and discussion worked against her…people got tired of CNN, Morning Joe, Bill Maher and The View.
1. Biden wasn't capable to run the country from the start. It was levers in the background that were running things. Fully believe that Obama and his gang were the operatives.
2. Absolutely should have been done properly. She would have lost the primary if Newsom, Shapiro, Buttigieg or Shapiro put their hat in the ring.
3. Not true at all. If Tulsi Gabbard runs in 2028 she'll likely win.
4. Harris doesn't have the character, the leadership ability or competence to lead a company, let alone a nation.
5. Agree. Republicans abandoned her did you see the results of her primary in Wyoming?
6. Yes would have been far better. He may have declined however because he's far more moderate than she is.
7. People got tired of CNN years ago. MSNBC has better ratings but they are so left biased not many take them seriously. Bill Maher is amusing and he does make some good points about wokeness, but he's a blowhard. The View have zero credibility in the minds of the vast majority of Americans.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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Bruce and J Low sabotaged Harris's campaign. Free Puffy.
And that trash Cardi B who couldn't say anything intelligible.
How low can you sink when Trump is getting endorsed by a tech billionaire and Harris is being endorsed by a trashy ghetto stripper who drugged her clients and stole their wallets? Lol.
 

Frank Fingers

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Lots of things went wrong for the democrats.

They used to be the party of the working people. Now they are the party of censorship, allowed too many wars to happen for the own benefit and are no longer democratic. If they believed in democracy they would’ve had Kamala Harris elected instead of unrightfully chosen.

Like Trudeau’s radical liberal government they continuously shove the LGBTQIA++ and trans shit down everyone’s throat. Rational people got sick of the pronouns, gender ideology and overall woke cultural and politically correct bullshit. I’m all for respecting one’s sexual preference but stop forcing this crap down everyone’s throat in entertainment, school and society. This is one of the major issues that will sink Trudeau as well.

Also the illegal immigration and the increase in crime and homelessness it’s caused. Along with the lack of assistance for their countries own citizens.

And never trust the mainstream media. 95% of it is run by leftist interests and this also includes the major tech companies (Apple, Google, Facebook). The leftist media also failed the people by claiming Trump is a dictator and Hitler and his supporters are garbage. In the end if you don’t agree with the left you are racist, homophonic and deplorable. They persecute you for having your own opinion even when your opinion makes more sense than their bullshit narrative!
 
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