What To Do about Gun Violence in Toronto?

[JuanGoodman]

Not exactly true. Every time I buy ammunition I have to present my PAL and a record is made of what was purchased. There is no centralised way of tracing but records are there at the store level.

That being said, this is not where they are getting ammunition from. They are getting it from the same source as the illegal guns.

As noted elsewhere in the thread Canadian licensed firearms owners are pretty good at following the law around the privilege of being a firearms owner. The RCMP runs daily police checks on all license holders. Anything that raises flags will initiate at least a phone call if not officers showing up on your doorstep.

Not to split hairs, but it is exactly true. There is no way to trace ammunition. You have to show your licensee at the store to show that you are legally authorized to purchase bullets.The store might have a record that you purchased bullets but there is no way to record that you purchased a particular bullet. Unlike hand guns or long guns, bullets do no have serial numbers. There is no way to connect a bullet to the box of bullets that you purchased at the store.

Besides there are many gun owners that simply reload and make their own ammunition, it's much cheaper that way. So there is no way to trace ammunition!

 

[Darts]

Jane Finch held a "unity" BBQ yesterday. Hope that helps.

 

[Frankfooter]

Trudeau is trying something.

Feds to give $54M to Ontario to fight illegal guns and gangs

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toro...rio-to-fight-illegal-guns-and-gangs-1.5260348

 

[Don Draper]

Re-instate carding.

It is not pretty and it is not nice, but it seemed to work.

I have a friend who is a Custodian of Peace (hence the term COP, for those not privvy) and this is what he shared with me: he's in agreement about bringing back carding. Most of the time, the police had leads about who to talk to, pull over and target. It wasn't just random. Since these potential criminals knew they might be carded, they wouldn't be carrying any weapons with them. This is what kept some sort of order.

Now, as he also mentioned, a lot of the officers he worked with completely abused their positions. They just enjoyed being able to talk down to whoever they felt like. It wasn't restricted only to race, as most might think (although this is a big part of it). Anyone within a compromising position is a target. White trash, dealers, thieves.

As an officer, if you've been entrusted to uphold the morals, ethics and laws of our society, (and carry a firearm) then they should hold a degree. Police & Military style training is not enough. This will never happen of course because then very few people would qualify to be law enforcement officers.

So, police officers of questionable character on one side and potential criminals with a very low IQ on the other.

What could possibly go wrong?

 

[shack]

Absolutely right! Instead of banning guns, ban the gang members.

And we can ban poverty and mental illness as well.

 

[shack]

I a Custodian of Peace (hence the term COP)

An interesting bit of trivia.

 

[Darts]

COP = Constable on patrol

 

[JuanGoodman]

And we can ban poverty and mental illness as well.

What is it with you, leftie brothers? You seem to be well educated, or should I say, well indoctrinated. Yet you have a mental capacity of a 6 year old child.

What does poverty or mental illness have to do with being a gang member?

Most people who are poor or uneducated contribute to society in a positive way. Being poor does not make one a criminal !

 

[JuanGoodman]

COP = Constable on patrol

I thought that too.

 

[shack]

What is it with you, leftie brothers? You seem to be well educated, or should I say, well indoctrinated. Yet you have a mental capacity of a 6 year old child.

What does poverty or mental illness have to do with being a gang member?

The general topic of discussion is reducing gun violence.

The righties don't like restrictions on guns themselves because "guns don't kill, people do". So the righties want to discuss gangs, and mental illness and poverty and on and on. Since banning gangs was mentioned, even tongue-in-cheek, I threw in a couple of other things that could be banned.

It really wasn't that difficult to figure the train of thought but I don't mind walking you through it.

 

[JuanGoodman]

The general topic of discussion is reducing gun violence.

The righties don't like restrictions on guns themselves because "guns don't kill, people do". So the righties want to discuss gangs, and mental illness and poverty and on and on. Since banning gangs was mentioned, even tongue-in-cheek, I threw in a couple of other things that could be banned.

It really wasn't that difficult to figure the train of thought but I don't mind walking you through it.

Mark Twain was right:

“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.”

 

[shack]

Mark Twain was right:

“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.”

Damn! You got me. I have no comeback.

 

[HEYHEY]

Trudeau is trying something.


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toro...rio-to-fight-illegal-guns-and-gangs-1.5260348

Trudeau is a child with no clue.
Throwing money at something with no real plan, especially someone elses money isnt hard.