What is your net worth?

What is your net worth??

  • less then 100k

    Votes: 33 17.8%
  • more then 100K less then 300K

    Votes: 24 13.0%
  • more then 300K less then 500K

    Votes: 20 10.8%
  • More then 500K less then 750K

    Votes: 31 16.8%
  • 1M or more

    Votes: 59 31.9%
  • 5M or more

    Votes: 18 9.7%

  • Total voters
    185
  • Poll closed .

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You also get a lot of married guys posting their combined net worth which is really 2x what their actual worth is...
I wonder what is the statistics on what percentage of family net worth would a guy keep after the divorce. 50% sounds very optimistic.
 

nottyboi

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thats assuming everything is paid for ,a few hundred grand can be generated
Free and clear a ew hundred grand is a VERY nice income. Assuming 5% that is 200K... but really, do you want to leave 4M behind, so if you look at it as a slow drawdown of your net worth, you need MUCH less. If you take out 100K/year that is still 40 years plus the 5% how long do you expect to live anyhoo?
 

TeasePlease

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How old are you and when do you plan to retire? I have news for you...if you wait until 65 there is NO WAY you will spend that much. When you age your energy and desires change. Have you ever travelled? Unless you are going to Monaco and banging the same hoes as Saudi Shieks, spending 15K a month on hobbying in Thailand or HK will result in your dick FALLING OFF. lol

Lol. Yes, I have travelled. Extensively and annually. I'm not into cheap thrills with low rent bar girls. Travel is something I like to do with loved ones, after all, what's a beautiful sunset in Majorca all alone?
Whether it's with family or specials friends, I don't mind carrying a bit if extra cost or paying their way. Sometimes it's just a way of saying thank you.

Also, I find that I spend more when I have more time on my hands. I'll have oodles when I retire. Golf, cars, watches, travel, fine dining.....it all adds up.
 

mrsCALoki

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The FP is full of crap. I don't come remotely close to spending what I make every month. But of course there are some really big spenders out there.
I heard something similar. But as always the devil is in the details.

The advice I heard was.... after the first 2 years, most people should plan on SPENDING about 40-60% a month compared to what you spent while employed.

It certainly did not work for us, but apparently it is good advice :)
 

mrsCALoki

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Maybe some exaggeration but I always assumed that the average active TERB member has higher disposable income than your average person. This is an expensive hobby.
Maybe. Many men here do not see DPs or MPs at all. Others very very rarely. So I suspect that your assumption is wrong.
 

nottyboi

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Lol. Yes, I have travelled. Extensively and annually. I'm not into cheap thrills with low rent bar girls. Travel is something I like to do with loved ones, after all, what's a beautiful sunset in Majorca all alone?
Whether it's with family or specials friends, I don't mind carrying a bit if extra cost or paying their way. Sometimes it's just a way of saying thank you.

Also, I find that I spend more when I have more time on my hands. I'll have oodles when I retire. Golf, cars, watches, travel, fine dining.....it all adds up.
Good for you!! I hope it's more interesting then it sounds..lol. Low rent girls bar girls are not where it's at either.
 

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Not only is everyone fibbing on how much they are worth (poll would have been better to declare no principle residence), now everyone is moaning about needing a mint to retire on. Between the lies and the price of an aging body, the odds are most people here will do quite well on OAS and CPP. Good luck staying healthy enough to party on 6 figures a year after age 80 at the latest. All you'll get is a deluxe assisted living environment.
 

nottyboi

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Not only is everyone fibbing on how much they are worth (poll would have been better to declare no principle residence), now everyone is moaning about needing a mint to retire on. Between the lies and the price of an aging body, the odds are most people here will do quite well on OAS and CPP. Good luck staying healthy enough to party on 6 figures a year after age 80 at the latest. All you'll get is a deluxe assisted living environment.

I agree, spend all your life working so you can not remember where the fuck you are in a nicer place....lol
 

nottyboi

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Seems like there is some jealousy in this post. Some people know how to make a good living and enjoy the finer things. Where is it written that one must sell his soul in order to live well? I dont think making money means you've "sold out." Some people find the balance, make good money, and enjoy life. I tip my hat to them...
Yes some people do, for sure. But they are the minority. If I continued to work hard at my current job, I could easily retire at age 65 with about 4-5M, but I think I will quit well before and settle for about 1.2M and enjoy life. If you are lucky enough to love your job AND make good money, there is no reason to retire.
 

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Not only is everyone fibbing on how much they are worth (poll would have been better to declare no principle residence), now everyone is moaning about needing a mint to retire on. Between the lies and the price of an aging body, the odds are most people here will do quite well on OAS and CPP. Good luck staying healthy enough to party on 6 figures a year after age 80 at the latest. All you'll get is a deluxe assisted living environment.
i don't know about you guys but I'm scared thinking about living out my years on the government dole.
 

TeasePlease

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If you're net assets are low, say less than $1mm, you probably also don't own your house (assuming you live in Toronto). That makes your monthly cash flow burn higher for rent.

You can get $$5-$7k out of $1.2mm. Not sure for how long.
 

nottyboi

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Exactly. It's the "how long" that is in question. With 1.2 million, youcan withdraw 5% per year, 60k (5k/month) safely, for only so many years (assuming average return on investment), but you will dramatically limit your ability to outlive your money. That is why retiring young (50) without WAY more than 1.2 mil does not work
You're thinking only financial assets. You are right if I kept half my net worth in an empty house. But if the house is an income property and the rest generating divvys then one can do ok. For a cash reserve a 500k line of credit on the house will do.
 

mrsCALoki

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You're thinking only financial assets. You are right if I kept half my net worth in an empty house. But if the house is an income property and the rest generating divvys then one can do ok. For a cash reserve a 500k line of credit on the house will do.
How about reverse mortgages? I thought they were designed for middle income people who are cash poor but house rich?
 

nottyboi

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How about reverse mortgages? I thought they were designed for middle income people who are cash poor but house rich?
Those pare down your equity. If you want a reverse mortgage get a line of credit instead, you can manage it at your leisure. But paring down home equity is really something you want to do maybe when you move into a nursing home right at the end. Sell the house to pay for a decent nursing home..and hope you die before the $$ runs out lol. I forgot to mention that my plan also has a small kicker in that once I hit 65 CPP will kick in so I will have an additional 1K/month or so. Of course, hyper inflation could kick in, in which case the house should hold it's value, and rents will stay apace, and if deflation shows up, then well.. my debt free status will carry me though and my std of living will remain about flat. Of course if financial armageddon hits, well, I would have at least enjoyed some of the fruits of my labour before they were rendered null and void... and I will then join the rest of you on the collective farm.
 

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If you're net assets are low, say less than $1mm, you 5

You can get $$5-$7k out of $1.2mm. Not sure for how long.
Assuming that you have $1.2 million in investible assets, the best way to go here would be to buy High quality dividend paying stocks, bank stocks come to mind. For example, a 5% dividend on $1.2 million will give you $60,000 before taxes. Given the preferred tax treatment, you may net $4k a month. Now the other real beauty is the dividend growth component of the stock. Dividends will likely increase, hopefully annually. This will not only increase your income but also protect you against inflation.

This has been my strategy for the past 15 years and I will be in a position to retire at 55 and I also have company pension. And if you also consider your CPP as early as 60 and OAS at 65, and if you also have RRSPs and TFSA then things should look nicely.

good luck with your retirement plans !

bruce
 
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