What is 'trafficking'?

[MelanieJolliet]

I was reading in the stickied thread up above (most recent news on prostitution etc) and I have been noticing that when arrests are made and charges laid that they use the word 'traffic' instead of what used to be called 'prostitution' and 'living off the avails' etc.

EX: LONDON, Ont. -- A 40-year-old Brampton woman is facing multiple charges after police say she allegedly trafficked a woman who had an intellectual disability for sex-related services.

I though trafficking was taking a person from one place and putting them in another place to do the work set out for them. Moving them, trafficking. And usually meant more than one person because one person does not make 'traffic'.

Or is this just a way to hike the numbers for the amount of 'trafficked' woman, so when then need arises for the gov't to show and quantify, for the voting public and subsequent 'studies', to show that the new laws are having the effect they wanted and because of the large numbers of 'trafficked' woman, that sex work should be abolished, once and for all?

 

[shack]

Trafficking=pimping.

 

[The Fruity Hare]

While these days trafficking has mainly taken on the meaning of those brought from one place to another to be exploited, usually for sex. There is also drug trafficking, and other trafficking, which means selling or supplying.

 

[MelanieJolliet]

While these days trafficking has mainly taken on the meaning of those brought from one place to another to be exploited, usually for sex. There is also drug trafficking, and other trafficking, which means selling or supplying.

So they just changed the terminology? But how can only one person be trafficked? And how can one person who didn't have to even leave their country/town/city be trafficked? A lot of these news stories lately are using that word, in news stories, like it is rampant and numerous people are affected etc. I was wondering if that was for shock value or to prop up abolishment arguments

 

[shack]

So they just changed the terminology? But how can only one person be trafficked? And how can one person who didn't have to even leave their country/town/city be trafficked?

A pimp only needs one girl to be a pimp.
A pimp can pimp girls in his own town.

Don't make it complicated.

Trafficking=Pimping.

 

[Chloë.]

So they just changed the terminology? But how can only one person be trafficked? And how can one person who didn't have to even leave their country/town/city be trafficked? A lot of these news stories lately are using that word, in news stories, like it is rampant and numerous people are affected etc. I was wondering if that was for shock value or to prop up abolishment arguments

You don't have to leave your city to be pimped...

 

[MelanieJolliet]

But trafficking is not necessarily pimping according to the law. People can be trafficked throughout the world to do regular jobs etc. Boatloads and truckloads of people, over oceans and boarders. That is called trafficking. The people who move them are paid fees. And when they get to where they are going, they get accommodations and usually poor wages.

 

[Aardvark154]

Trafficking=pimping.

That is I believe a tad simplistic, (although I understand where you are coming from) Sexual or Human Trafficking is defined in the United Nations Protocol to Prevent, Suppress and Punish Trafficking in Persons, especially Women and Children (a.k.a. the Trafficking Protocol) as " the recruitment, transportation, transfer, harbouring or receipt of persons, by means of threat or use of force or other forms of coercion, of abduction, of fraud, of deception, of the abuse of power or of a position of vulnerability or of the giving or receiving of payments or benefits to achieve the consent of a person having control over another person, for the purpose of exploitation. Exploitation shall include, at a minimum, the exploitation of the prostitution of others or other forms of sexual exploitation, forced labour or services, slavery or practices similar to slavery, servitude or the removal, manipulation or implantation of organs"

Likewise that is an overly complex definition, I'd say that the operative factors are the relocation from one place to another and coercion or deception.

 

[shack]

But trafficking is not necessarily pimping according to the law. People can be trafficked throughout the world to do regular jobs etc. Boatloads and truckloads of people, over oceans and boarders. That is called trafficking. The people who move them are paid fees. And when they get to where they are going, they get accommodations and usually poor wages.

Drug dealers traffic in drugs. They provide the drugs.

Pimps traffic in prostitutes. They provide the prostitutes.

Forget borders and multiple ladies. When they say trafficking they are talking providing, period. Nothing more complex than that.

 

[latinboy]

I have been noticing that when arrests are made and charges laid that they use the word 'traffic' instead of what used to be called 'prostitution' and 'living off the avails' etc.

Re-read Shack's posts.

"Trafficking In Persons" as it relates to the sex-trade = PIMPING

http://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/cj-jp/tp/legis-loi.html

Trafficking in persons is about exploitation and does not necessarily involve movement.

For the purpose of the trafficking offences, the Criminal Code states that a person exploits another person if they:

cause someone to provide, or offer to provide, labour or a service by engaging in conduct that, in all the circumstances, could reasonably be expected to cause the other person to believe that their safety or the
safety of a person known to them would be threatened if they failed to provide, or offer to provide, the labour or service. cause a person, by means of deception or the use or threat of force or of any other form of coercion, to have an organ or tissue removed -(section 279.04).

 

[MelanieJolliet]

A pimp only needs one girl to be a pimp.
A pimp can pimp girls in his own town.

Don't make it complicated.

Trafficking=Pimping.

But I am a woman...it's my job to make it complicated ....

I am understanding now. With the explanations. Thanks everyone

 

[Aardvark154]

Re-read Shack's posts.

"Trafficking In Persons" as it relates to the sex-trade = PIMPING

http://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/cj-jp/tp/legis-loi.html

Trafficking in persons is about exploitation and does not necessarily involve movement.

For the purpose of the trafficking offences, the Criminal Code states that a person exploits another person if they:

cause someone to provide, or offer to provide, labour or a service by engaging in conduct that, in all the circumstances, could reasonably be expected to cause the other person to believe that their safety or the safety of a person known to them would be threatened if they failed to provide, or offer to provide, the labour or service. cause a person, by means of deception or the use or threat of force or of any other form of coercion, to have an organ or tissue removed -(section 279.04).

You should have stopped at "or offer to provide, the labour or service." The underlined final sentence involves an unrelated issue addressed in the same section of the Criminal Code.

So therefore Pimping if by Pimping we agree that it inherently is coercive and involves: deception and or the use of force or the threat of force. Once again it seems we are discussing Street Walking and not Escorting.