What does “cheating” mean to you?

[dirtyharry555]

She wouldn’t let me fuck anyone else…. And I was introduced to all her friends…. But you’re not wrong. Either way, she never really stopped playing on the apps and lied. Is that dirty pool or not.

What does "she wouldn't let me fuck anyone else" even mean?

And you actually abided by her "rule" didn't you... you have lots to learn about modern women (and being a man).

 

[poker]

What does "she wouldn't let me fuck anyone else" even mean?

And you actually abided by her "rule" didn't you... you have lots to learn about modern women (and being a man).

Insults only count from people I respect, and you’re not one of them.

You see, once again you are on the wrong side of the argument. Being a man is keeping your end of the bargain. Being a man is being someone who when he gives his word, people know they can trust it…. Took me a long time to get past my own Demons, but I am 10x the man you will ever be.

 

[dirtyharry555]

Insults only count from people I respect, and you’re not one of them.

You see, once again you are on the wrong side of the argument. Being a man is keeping your end of the bargain. Being a man is being someone who when he gives his word, people know they can trust it…. Took me a long time to get past my own Demons, but I am 10x the man you will ever be.

First, I wasn't insulting you. I'm sorry you feel that guidance is an insult. Also, nobody needs your respect.

You met a woman on a dating app. There is no bargain to be kept. You're naïve to hookup culture and modern "dating". This is why you have learned nothing, and will be victimized again. That makes you a sucker, not a man.

Stop perceiving your savior as someone less than you. You're emotional and in your feelings and that's why you're talking in girlspeak about being 10x this and 10x that. All of that is meaningless drivel among men.

You're obviously new to the game, and I'm counseling you on it. It's not 1960 anymore, bro.

 

[bmanguy]

Honestly, most of the females on dating apps are just narcissists. You know how easy it is for a woman to date men in real life. They literally have men just running after them..even big girls get attention lol.

They are online because they think theyre perfect and everyone they meet in person is not good enough.

Meet women in person as best as possible. Online world is just cheating. And date locally. It might be sad..but you gotta keep your partner in check...men and women.

Yes..you should have full access to their phones. Not saying you should go through it..but if they keep it with them at all times and never show you wtf theyre doing ..theyre cheating.

This isnt 1960s..cheating is so easy u can literally whatsapp 'hey' to someone and get pussy or dick within a day. Girls can get dick within a minute ..of their choosing...

 

[onomatopoeia]

The Ten Commandments has two which reference cheating; Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery and Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife.

Adultery only applies to a person who is married/ in a spousal relationship. Two single people having sex with each other are not committing adultery. If a single person has sex with a married person, only the married person is committing adultery.

Definition of 'covet':



And the old joke:

Moses comes down from Mount Sinai, and says "I've got good news, and bad news. The good news is, I got Him down to ten. The bad news is, adultery's still in.".

 

[onomatopoeia]

Yada, Yada...This isnt 1960s...yada,yada

Bad example. In the 60's, a hippie guy only had to raise his hand with his index and middle fingers forming a V, as if he was ordering two beers in a tavern, and two chicks would be sucking his dick before the joint came back to him.

 

[poker]

I agree with both of these gentlemen.

Women like men, not simps. If you've ever dated any girl, lady, woman that talked about her alpha exbf, she will go back to that. They want a man who can take charge and be supportive of them and take care of them. Not some dude who casually dates them and only sees them when he has time. If she cheated on you, it's because you weren't there for her.

So you’re saying she did cheat. Thank you.

 

[moredale7]

She wouldn’t let me fuck anyone else…. And I was introduced to all her friends…. But you’re not wrong. Either way, she never really stopped playing on the apps and lied. Is that dirty pool or not.

For me that makes her more desirable.

 

[jalimon]

I do think that sex and love can be separate. I don’t think Swingers cheat, but I do wonder about Open Relationships where things are done apart from one another…. Together is together.

I have done many many kinky events with lots of swinging couples. They do everything together, always.

I have seen women jump on as many dick as they could as they were nympho. A single men don’t cut it for them. I have seen men handpicked the guy or guys that he would help fuck their wife/partner.

I have seen men simply wanting to have a different partner… Having sex with a stranger has a strong deliberating effect, it’s addictive.

But mostly what i saw on the women’s side is to have intimacy with other women.

That’s why often those events are a bit deceptive for men as most of the time we are just a tool. Women run the show and often between them

 

[onomatopoeia]

So you’re saying she did cheat. Thank you.

Yes she did, but you didn't or shouldn't have had a reasonable expectation of exclusivity, when you're only showing up for a booty call twice a month.

 

[poker]

Yes she did, but you didn't or shouldn't have had a reasonable expectation of exclusivity, when you're only showing up for a booty call twice a month.

How did you come to that conclusion? And what math are you using?

I had reasonable expectations of exclusivity because we agreed we were exclusive. Lol. We agreed we were looking for long term. I suppose the time she told me she could never cheat, because her ex husband cheated on her, and she “could never put someone else through that” was also a clear signal.

And don’t get me wrong. I moved on from this a long time ago. Took me a few months to realize what a lying psycho she was… but I happily walked. However, the conversation where she told me she never cheated even after I caught her on the dating apps… and apparently surprised her when she was having a “friend” over… still to this day she says it wasn’t cheating. Either way, not worth my time or energy.

 

[onomatopoeia]

How did you come to that conclusion? And what math are you using?

I had reasonable expectations of exclusivity because we agreed we were exclusive. Lol. We agreed we were looking for long term. I suppose the time she told me she could never cheat, because her ex husband cheated on her, and she “could never put someone else through that” was also a clear signal.

And don’t get me wrong. I moved on from this a long time ago. Took me a few months to realize what a lying psycho she was… but I happily walked. However, the conversation where she told me she never cheated even after I caught her on the dating apps… and apparently surprised her when she was having a “friend” over… still to this day she says it wasn’t cheating. Either way, not worth my time or energy.

Most of this quoted reply post is information new to this thread. You had mentioned previously that the two of you knocked boots every other Thursday and weekend. I assumed that the Thursday and weekend trysts occurred during the same calendar week.

 

[poker]

Most of this quoted reply post is information new to this thread. You had mentioned previously that the two of you knocked boots every other Thursday and weekend. I assumed that the Thursday and weekend trysts occurred during the same calendar week.

Of course it’s new info…. I was asking a simple question that didn’t require a novel about every detail of an old relationship. You decided to make assumptions and judgements… and psychoanalyze a relationship you had zero details about. Not sure why? Had nothing to with the question.

So, if you’re gonna try to troll, knock yourself out. Not sure why nobody can make a simple thread on this board without people taking it right off the rails, but whatever. I’m out.

 

[Valcazar]

I do think that sex and love can be separate. I don’t think Swingers cheat, but I do wonder about Open Relationships where things are done apart from one another…. Together is together.

Oh people cheat as part of Open Relationships or Swinging all the time.

If you are doing something you know your partner wouldn't like behind their back, you are cheating.

It's about the betrayal or the agreement, not anything about the act itself.

 

[xix]

I had reasonable expectations of exclusivity because we agreed we were exclusive. Lol. We agreed we were looking for long term. I suppose the time she told me she could never cheat, because her ex husband cheated on her, and she “could never put someone else through that” was also a clear signal.

over… still to this day she says it wasn’t cheating. Either way, not worth my time or energy.

Any divorce women whose husband cheated on them - "Spite- is triggered in their DNA. It is like dynamite went off in their soul, Anger and Resentment is small compared to Spite and there is a 80 % chance they will cheat for revenge or spite and fear when they get into another relationship. The question is when will they cheat.

 

[Krakatoa]

She should've been honest with you (that you guys were not exclusive) but you shouldn't of just shown up at her house uninvited. It doesn't sound like you guys were that serious.

I am currently seeing someone but we are not serious. We see each other once a week for some fun and text daily, but I am pretty sure she's going out with other guys. And that's ok. You just have to know where you stand. And if you don't like the deal, walk away.

 

[karzon]

Relationships are not what it used be like the 1800's. The new relationship - It's not really new its been around the beginning of time - it just evolved much bigger than what it used to be in the 1800's, I call the new relationship 3C's.

Cheating and commitment has a different name now but its still the same. If you are seeking a marriage till death then do the following. As a human being you have to learn how to detect what type of person is sitting across from you within the 6 dates. Know how to smoothly ask " what are your goals in 10 or 20 years? or where do you see yourself?." If the response is not about relationship - for example I want to be with someone I love and has good values- then Run For The Mountains. Be able to read them if they are honest, test them by making them pay their own share on the date. IF you see attitude then RFTM. There are other test you can try.

Below is a bell curve. One of the best things I was taught in college, I always use it to apply to people psychology plus more. I won't bother explaining it but I learned something new over the weekend from my neighbour lady who is 80. People who are over 40 years old whether single parent, divorce parent don't want to get married, They are in the C to F of the curve. If you find one in the G & H and low income they will commit to marriage or live together till death.

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Most people just get involved for FWB and PP - psychological post. This can last from a month to 10 years, they are in the A - D section.

What makes me laugh is that people will change clothes, furniture and cars easily and let go of them but when it come to relationships it's hard to let go. Heck I even think of one from ages ago once in a while.
Remember the following “She’s not yours, it’s just your turn”.

I been told Dating Apps it's just a new form of sex pleasure convenience and temporary Band aid healing. If you meet anyone that gets married from an app they are at the end of H section of the curve. Exception to the rule.

Here is a quote I like from Reddit..

Women nowadays have more power, more education, more opportunities and society makes them out to be super heroes. I'm not saying that women having these freedoms is a bad thing. But it's definitely causing a big rift in the dating scene.

Pre-the agricultural age tribes wondered and it was common for 2-3 men to sex with the same woman, if a child was born the entire tribe raised it… marriage became important during the agricultural age, (because now there was property to protect and men wanted to be sure the children were his, and legally it was also important) For a long time women did not work or become highly educated, thus they needed a man to take of them or it was the streets. Now I call women the (New Men) they work, are intelligent, and decide who and how long they want to be with someone. The days of "She is a slut" they choose who and when they want to have sex with and find both wrong with this. My 2 cents on marriage (if you want to be married great, if not great, churches and law will not keep a couple together) But when it comes to having a deep heart connected relationship with someone, (sharing is out of the question) some couple can, (polo-groups) but I want more than spin the bottle. (those people have a fear of commitment and abandonment) My view is (if you are not happy in your relationship, and no longer want to adjust to make it work, then tell your partner and move on) having sex with someone else then coming home like nothing happened is cowardly. Be honest - it's not hard. (the option to have group sex with acknowledgement of your partner is OK - if your Ego can handle it…not for the frail of heart) - OK maybe that was more like a dime. PS - I have a 1955 Austin Healy and never getting rid off it...

 

[xix]

Pre-the agricultural age tribes wondered and it was common for 2-3 men to sex with the same woman, if a child was born the entire tribe raised it… marriage became important during the agricultural age, (because now there was property to protect and men wanted to be sure the children were his, and legally it was also important) For a long time women did not work or become highly educated, thus they needed a man to take of them or it was the streets. Now I call women the (New Men) they work, are intelligent, and decide who and how long they want to be with someone. The days of "She is a slut" they choose who and when they want to have sex with and find both wrong with this. My 2 cents on marriage (if you want to be married great, if not great, churches and law will not keep a couple together) But when it comes to having a deep heart connected relationship with someone, (sharing is out of the question) some couple can, (polo-groups) but I want more than spin the bottle. (those people have a fear of commitment and abandonment) My view is (if you are not happy in your relationship, and no longer want to adjust to make it work, then tell your partner and move on) having sex with someone else then coming home like nothing happened is cowardly. Be honest - it's not hard. (the option to have group sex with acknowledgement of your partner is OK - if your Ego can handle it…not for the frail of heart) - OK maybe that was more like a dime. PS - I have a 1955 Austin Healy and never getting rid off it...

Okay, you are good !!! thanks that is very insight full. The New Men can have all the fun they want for all I care.
Funny I was thinking of a new word to describe women and NEW MEN came to my mind early today.

Somehow this reminds me of Twilight Zone episode from the 80' or 90's I think.

Correction - The New Men has been around since the beginning, it is now that it grew exponentially, I wonder what the new wave will be that is hiding amongst us.

 

[Adam_hadam]

Cheating is going to the office and depositing cum in the HR hotties mouth 2 or 3 times per week.
A cheaper alternative to whey protein and much more natural she says especially with what she gets paid.