Strippers, strippers, strippers
Okay, here is the my take on the whole striper situation.
First of all, you have to realize that strippers are not SPs. They all know that the option exists haven't chosen it at least not outright. My experience tells me that on the subject of providing SP like services, strippers fall into one of several categories.
1) scared/shy/newbies - This type is most just scared to go there, they haven't really gotten comfortable stripping yet and the idea of "doing more" is not something they are really considering. Solution: leave them alone as far SP services go, if they change their mind in the future maybe you'll be fortunate enough to be in their good graces
2) A line they don't cross - This type is pretty comfortable getting naked for a living, even grinding you in the champagne room, but they achieved this level of comfort by creating a distinction in their mind between what they do and what "hookers" do and crossing this line would completely undermine their sense of self worth. Since crossing the line would be traumatic for them, they aren't likely to. Solution: It's probably okay to inquire about services politely and discretely (see notes below) but trying to pressure them to cross the line will likely tick them off and result in less enjoyable dances in the future
3)Maybe if they know you - This type appears a lot like the previous type and it can be difficult to tell them apart when you first meet them. They are comfortable getting naked, give good dances, tend to be busy and don't need to pressure customers to get dances. They still haven't chosen to become an SP but may see customers outside the club for a little fun but are choosy about who they see. If you don't respect their rules in the champagne room or give them a bad vibe you'll go on the permanent "no" list as far as extras go.solution: Inquire with discretion, (see notes below)
4)Fun in the club/high mileage - This type will consistently do a little extra in the club, but they rarely if ever take it outside the club. They don't like the fear of the unknown circumstances outside the club and they usually have a limited repertoire. They know how to push the boundaries inside the club and can get you where you need to go in 10-or 15 minutes but would be like a fish out of water for anymore time than that.Solution: enjoy the club time with them, they've found a way to be good at what they do. They tend to make terrible SPs, and they don't need the money anyway. Lastly Don't talk about them on the boards!!!!
5)Looking for customers - This type will fairly readily see customers outside the club. There's a reason for this: they're having a hard time making money inside the club. Either because they're a little past their prime or a little crazy or both. These are also really bad SPs, they tend not be able to build a business of loyal customers so they rely on the strip club to provide an endless supply of new customers, who are horny and half cut when they meet them. Solution: It's not worth it
Talking about extras:
This needs to be a quite, private and discreet inquiry. Don't put you or the girl in the position of being overheard, or the outcome will be "no". In addition you should find a way of asking in such a way that what you say could be overheard and still not be incriminating. The additional information the women may need to fully understand the meaning of the question can be provided by you with body language, a raised eyebrow, a wink, a squeeze of the hand...etc For example ( and I'm not telling you what to say here ) you might spend the first few minutes of conversation with the girl talking about sex, positions, techniques, whatever. During that conversation you might get around to gently squeezing her hand to demonstrate a particular aspect of what you're talking about, rhythm, pressure, whatever. After the dance and you determine she's the right type to ask the question to, you can ask a very Innocent question and communicate a completely different message by gently squeezing her hand again while asking it.
The last thing is that if you get a positive response it's important to ask about cost. You should not expect that there girls are going to have competitive rates, they will be higher. Don't, I repeat don't negotiate. It's insulting and rude. Even if she lowers her price, shes going to feel cheated and you're going to have a bad time. Instead take it at face value, you should have an idea what you want to pay before you ask the question but don't mention this unless she asks you. If the price is too high for you, make a point of showing gratitude that at least the option exists and then tell her that it's outside your price range at the moment. Maybe another time it won't be.
I could on, but I think that should be enough to get you started. Learn to tell the difference between the types, learn to appreciate them for what they are, and above all show the ladies some much deserved respect.
T2