Western civilization collapse

[K Douglas]

Heather MacDonald of The Manhattan Institute is truly a voice of reason. For me she's the female equivalent of Victor Davis Hansen. Both great intellectual minds who form their opinions based on facts, observation and rational thought.

For me these are the pretty powerful statements I take away from this video clip

"The West has been overrun now by an ideology of self destruction."
"The West is in the only civilization on the planet today that is determined to erase itself demographically, discredit its unparalleled achievements and exaggerate its common faults"

I would add that its not just women who are voting for this. A significant amount of males are doing the same thing. Many of them are on this forum.

 

[Frankfooter]

"The West is in the only civilization on the planet today that is determined to erase itself demographically,

oh gord.

Here comes the white replacement theory all over again, with a taste of white supremacy as in 'the only civilization'.
Given your ultimate white hero is a senile, convicted felon and pedo, its time for the american 'civilization' to follow Caligula's Rome.

 

[K Douglas]

oh gord.

Here comes the white replacement theory all over again, with a taste of white supremacy as in 'the only civilization'.
Given your ultimate white hero is a senile, convicted felon and pedo, its time for the american 'civilization' to follow Caligula's Rome.

This white replacement theory is a made up social construct of liberal elitism to make anyone who merely questions immigration policies look like a racist or white supremacist.
Heather makes some very valid points and in an open democratic society the merits of such should be rigorously debated. Not dismissed.

 

[Frankfooter]

This white replacement theory is a made up social construct of liberal elitism to make anyone who merely questions immigration policies look like a racist or white supremacist.
Heather makes some very valid points and in an open democratic society the merits of such should be rigorously debated. Not dismissed.

White replacement theory is just the next Eugenics, KKK, nazis, zionism or any other stupid racial supremacy movement.
Its no different than those stupid ads: "In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel. Defeat Jihad."

Immigration became neccessary after neoliberalism made having kids too expensive. Now billionaires think AI means we don't need workers or immigrants again.
So here we go....

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

There is nothing called "Western Civilization". The West isn't a monolith.
There is nothing called "Judeo-Christian" values. It doesn't exist.
Further, countries like Canada and the United States are not civilizations.
These are civic entities, a few 100 years old. Settled nations. Contractual societies. Not organic ones. Established by people from various other civilizational states from the old world.
As such countries like Canada, are multi-ethnic, multi-racial, multi-cultural, multi-religious and have always been that way. And need to stay that way.
So there is no question of demographic replacement, as these nations never were homogenous.
In simple words, Canada, United States etc are not "white nations" and never were "white nations" and the only reason for a majority white demographic today were past racist immigration laws.
Or to put it in even simpler worlds, "Keep crying". lmfao.

 

[southpaw]

There is nothing called "Western Civilization". The West isn't a monolith.
There is nothing called "Judeo-Christian" values. It doesn't exist.

Don't conflate the two points. Judeo-Christian is a made up term. But there was a time when the west called itself Christendom. And it waged Crusades against another civilization.

There is a Hindu civilization, a Buddhist civilization, a Muslim civilization. And there is a Christian civilization. They have all evolved over the centuries. That doesn't mean they dont exist.

Everything you spewed is a bunch of nonsense.

 

[Frankfooter]

Don't conflate the two points. Judeo-Christian is a made up term. But there was a time when the west called itself Christendom. And it waged Crusades against another civilization.

There is a Hindu civilization, a Buddhist civilization, a Muslim civilization. And there is a Christian civilization. They have all evolved over the centuries. That doesn't mean they dont exist.

Everything you spewed is a bunch of nonsense.

And 'western culture' usually means Eurocentric culture but then you get MAGA types trying to argue its american free market oligarchy that's now western culture.
As if trump is the peak of this western cultural evolution, and totally anti christian to the point of being almost the antichrist.

Get them to discuss British or other Euro influences and they'll have a meltdown.

Really, its just racists trying to sound intelligent while pushing racial supremacy.

 

[southpaw]

And 'western culture' usually means Eurocentric culture

At least you admit that. Unlike goatmeal who claims there is nothing called Western Civilization. And he also claims that trans women are women. He just picks whatever BS suits his political agenda.

 

[Frankfooter]

At least you admit that. Unlike goatmeal who claims there is nothing called Western Civilization. And he also claims that trans women are women. He just picks whatever BS suits his political agenda.

But that means that 'western culture' is not at all what Kirk thinks it means, unless he's really pining for a king or something.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

But there was a time when the west called itself Christendom. And it waged Crusades against another civilization.

Religion alone doesn't make civilizations. Civilizations are more than religions.
Not to mention Christianity itself is so divided in its values and practices. Eg: The crusades were done solely by Catholics. So try again.
You just conflate random things and spew whatever simplistic retarded bullshit you can conjure up at any given moment.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

And 'western culture' usually means Eurocentric culture...

Europe itself was diverse even back in the day, albeit much less diverse than today.
So all that historical diversity has to be part of "Eurocentrism" if we are framing Western Civilization as "Eurocentric".
But they usually get ignored because the ones using the "western civilization" terminology are only concerned with one of the 3 primary MAGA obsessions: race. (The other 2 being gender and sexual orientation).
When they say "Eurocentric" or "Western civilization" they mean, "white and Christian", but the idea of a monolithic, Christian, white western culture is something they pulled out of their asses.
Just like Southpaw pulls random things out of his ass every time he attempts to make an argument and fails. lmfao.

 

[southpaw]

Just like Southpaw pulls random things out of his ass every time he attempts to make an argument and fails. lmfao.

At least I don't have my head stuck in it, like you do.

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[P0Pewlar]

There is nothing called "Western Civilization". The West isn't a monolith.
There is nothing called "Judeo-Christian" values. It doesn't exist.
Further, countries like Canada and the United States are not civilizations.
These are civic entities, a few 100 years old. Settled nations. Contractual societies. Not organic ones. Established by people from various other civilizational states from the old world.
As such countries like Canada, are multi-ethnic, multi-racial, multi-cultural, multi-religious and have always been that way. And need to stay that way.
So there is no question of demographic replacement, as these nations never were homogenous.
In simple words, Canada, United States etc are not "white nations" and never were "white nations" and the only reason for a majority white demographic today were past racist immigration laws.
Or to put it in even simpler worlds, "Keep crying". lmfao.

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[P0Pewlar]

And it waged Crusades against another civilization.

Crusades started because of Islam pushing into Europe, no?

 

[P0Pewlar]

Religion alone doesn't make civilizations. Civilizations are more than religions.
Not to mention Christianity itself is so divided in its values and practices. Eg: The crusades were done solely by Catholics. So try again.
You just conflate random things and spew whatever simplistic retarded bullshit you can conjure up at any given moment.

So tell us, why did the Crusades start?

 

[Frankfooter]

Europe itself was diverse even back in the day, albeit much less diverse than today.
So all that historical diversity has to be part of "Eurocentrism" if we are framing Western Civilization as "Eurocentric".
But they usually get ignored because the ones using the "western civilization" terminology are only concerned with one of the 3 primary MAGA obsessions: race. (The other 2 being gender and sexual orientation).
When they say "Eurocentric" or "Western civilization" they mean, "white and Christian", but the idea of a monolithic, Christian, white western culture is something they pulled out of their asses.
Just like Southpaw pulls random things out of his ass every time he attempts to make an argument and fails. lmfao.

True, but then they also strip out the Christian part of that definition, lest they be held to Christian values themselves.
Which really just brings it back to race.

And this thread is just yet another attempt to find language that they can use to justify racism, the way 'illegal immigrants' is meant as a catch all for brown people.
Or 'terrorists', for that matter. They are all terms used to dehumanize the other in a search for someone to blame for their own problems.

 

[southpaw]

Crusades started because of Islam pushing into Europe, no?

My point wasnt about who started it. My point was that it was fought. By Christendom. Thats why they were called Crusades, not Tranny Wars. Goatmeal will fight those. He'll be known far and wide as Shaquille the Tuckdick.

 

[oil&gas]

Religion alone doesn't make civilizations. Civilizations are more than religions.
Not to mention Christianity itself is so divided in its values and practices. Eg: The crusades were done solely by Catholics. So try again.

Anglicans and Protestants refused to join the crusaders to fight
the Muslims alongside their Catholic brethrens, right?

You just conflate random things and spew whatever simplistic retarded bullshit you can conjure up at any given moment.

 

[kherg007]

It's always struck me as a contradiction - the values of the rennaissance (science, reason, art, etc) vaulted Europe over many other societies. Yet the current crop of Christian nationalists reject a lot of it.

 

[P0Pewlar]

True, but then they also strip out the Christian part of that definition, lest they be held to Christian values themselves.
Which really just brings it back to race.

And this thread is just yet another attempt to find language that they can use to justify racism, the way 'illegal immigrants' is meant as a catch all for brown people.
Or 'terrorists', for that matter. They are all terms used to dehumanize the other in a search for someone to blame for their own problems.

Like "infidels"?
That street goes both ways. lol