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What it does primarily is taints it as a source.

Now once they hopefully establish payments then they can ask other questions.
 
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All's fair in love and war and in politics, it would seem. But, I suspect this is just a beginning. It is imperative that the Democrats regain power in the Congress in 2018. If they don't, the dominos will tumble.
 
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jcpro said:
All's fair in love and war and in politics, it would seem. But, I suspect this is just a beginning. It is imperative that the Democrats regain power in the Congress in 2018. If they don't, the dominos will tumble.
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Which side are you on? Are you really impartial as to whether the Russians interfere in Western elections? You can play the Canadian card, but supposing they interfere in Canadian elections as well, you just don't care?
 
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fuji said:
When our side gets intelligence on the Russians it's a good thing. When the Russians spies interferes in our system it's a bad thing.

How is that difficult for you?
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So when Russia gave information on a politician that's not interference?
Hint: it is.......
 
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The Dems paid for it and spent more than a year lying about the fact they had paid for it.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/24/politics/fusion-gps-clinton-campaign/index.html

Sorry, Carl Bernstein, but this definitely ain't Watergate.
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The big question is who is the Republican donor who commissioned it in the first place.
I have no problem with democrats funding it, digging up dirt on your competition is standard in politics and you'd be naive to think that every party doesn't do it.
 
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fuji said:
Define "gave". It seems to me that infornants working for the good guys stole classified information from Russia.
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Lol! That's awesome!

Or how about the more believable one that they paid for dirt from the FSB. Via apparently a lawyer who hired Fusion so their name wouldn't hopefully be connected.

And I would add only released it via buzzfeed because the regular networks wouldn't touch because the information in it couldn't be verified.

But nice try finish, that was a funny one!
 
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Frankfooter said:
The big question is who is the Republican donor who commissioned it in the first place.
I have no problem with democrats funding it, digging up dirt on your competition is standard in politics and you'd be naive to think that every party doesn't do it.
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I'm thinking Bush Family. They had the money and connections.

Still interesting it's FusionGPS. The same ones who did the supposed security evaluation of the DNC hack.

Funny how suddenly they are at the heart of the investigation, have taken the Fifth and are fighting to keep documents out of the hands of the investigations.

Now why is the same opposition research company producing for both parties against the same person......
 
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Butler1000 said:
I'm thinking Bush Family. They had the money and connections.

Still interesting it's FusionGPS. The same ones who did the supposed security evaluation of the DNC hack.

Funny how suddenly they are at the heart of the investigation, have taken the Fifth and are fighting to keep documents out of the hands of the investigations.

Now why is the same opposition research company producing for both parties against the same person......
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Parties do their own due diligence for those who might be leaders. Nothing worse then picking someone only to find skeletons in the closet that kill the party's chances.
Same for opposition, you don't really think that Trump didn't have anyone trying to dig up the dirt on the Clintons, do you?
How about the Breitbart author who wrote the book with the fake allegations about the Clinton foundation?
 
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Frankfooter said:
Parties do their own due diligence for those who might be leaders. Nothing worse then picking someone only to find skeletons in the closet that kill the party's chances.
Same for opposition, you don't really think that Trump didn't have anyone trying to dig up the dirt on the Clintons, do you?
How about the Breitbart author who wrote the book with the fake allegations about the Clinton foundation?
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Did they use foreign agents to contact the FSB for information and deny it?

You do realize you are defending this as proper? Does that make what Trump Jr. Did fine in your books as well?

That's why this is so funny. The very collusion the Trump campaign is accused of occurred at the hands of both the anti Trumpets in the GOP and with the Clintons.

Finally if this is on the up and up then why did Fusion take the Fifth.

So far you and Fuji refuse to come up with a decent answer as to why they would need to if this is legal.
 
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Gee. And here I've always been told cut-throat competitiveness between parties and companies was the key to America's economic and political success. So there was something wrong with one Party trying to put the other at a disadvantage by paying someone to investigate their possible misdeeds? How is that different from paying someone to create attack ads?

Isn't the truth of the matter the real issue, rather than the unsurprising news that an opposition party funded inquiry into it?
 
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Butler1000 said:
Did they use foreign agents to contact the FSB for information and deny it?

You do realize you are defending this as proper? Does that make what Trump Jr. Did fine in your books as well?

That's why this is so funny. The very collusion the Trump campaign is accused of occurred at the hands of both the anti Trumpets in the GOP and with the Clintons.
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There is a big difference between hiring a company that used Russian connections to spy on Russian government connections with Trump, and Trump Jr meeting with the Russian government to spy on an American candidate.
Can you not see the difference?
 
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Frankfooter said:
There is a big difference between hiring a company that used Russian connections to spy on Russian government connections with Trump, and Trump Jr meeting with the Russian government to spy on an American candidate.
Can you not see the difference?
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Lol. That's a nice little attempt at a twist. Fusion received information from Russian spy agencies for the purpose of affecting the election.

If what they did was above board why refuse to cooperate with the fbi and take the Fifth.

Seems Trump Jr turned over all requested documents and answered all questions.

So why not FUSION?
 
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