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Washington Post: Clinton campaign, DNC paid for research that led to Russia dossier

Butler1000

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Gee. And here I've always been told cut-throat competitiveness between parties and companies was the key to America's economic and political success. So there was something wrong with one Party trying to put the other at a disadvantage by paying someone to investigate their possible misdeeds? How is that different from paying someone to create attack ads?

Isn't the truth of the matter the real issue, rather than the unsurprising news that an opposition party funded inquiry into it?
So are you saying the Trump Jr meeting is above board as well?
 

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Lol. That's a nice little attempt at a twist. Fusion received information from Russian spy agencies for the purpose of affecting the election.
That's a false claim, in fact Fusion used moles to collect information ON Russian spy agencies.
That's a major difference, and the reason why Steele was hiding for his life after the dossier came out.
 

Butler1000

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That's a false claim, in fact Fusion used moles to collect information ON Russian spy agencies.
That's a major difference, and the reason why Steele was hiding for his life after the dossier came out.
So they claim. But they are also hiding their financials.

And until it's all wide openly investigated their word means shit. You don't know for a fact about how they obtained things.

And you don't know why Steele ran. Could have been from the Russians, from Fusion, From Clinton. You don't know.

But I think we will find out.
 

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So they claim. But they are also hiding their financials.

And until it's all wide openly investigated their word means shit. You don't know for a fact about how they obtained things.

And you don't know why Steele ran. Could have been from the Russians, from Fusion, From Clinton. You don't know.

But I think we will find out.
You really think the Russians hired Fusion to spy on the Russians?
OMG, that's funny.
 

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So are you saying the Trump Jr meeting is above board as well?
Clearly he did everything he could before and after to keep it under wraps, to the point of prevarication if not flat-out falsehood. I believe that counts as below board.

Are you now saying he did have dealings with the Russians he should have been open about?

Here I thought the topic was the ethics of investigating one's opponent in a contest, not the protocols of candidates accepting aid from agents of foreign governments.
 

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Clearly he did everything he could before and after to keep it under wraps, to the point of prevarication if not flat-out falsehood. I believe that counts as below board.

Are you now saying he did have dealings with the Russians he should have been open about?
I said from the beginning it was a stupid rookie mistake.

What is surprising to me is how Clinton has fumbled this one. Fusion has really dropped the ball.
 

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I said from the beginning it was a stupid rookie mistake.

What is surprising to me is how Clinton has fumbled this one. Fusion has really dropped the ball.
Let's not forget, it was the Clinton paid FAKE 'Russian dossier' that led to the FISA warrant, which had a running presidential candidate under surveillance.

In sesame street English, Clinton and Obama operatives spied on a presidential candidate based on a fictitious dossier, THAT THEY PAID FOR.

THIS IS HUGE!!!!
 

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I said from the beginning it was a stupid rookie mistake.

What is surprising to me is how Clinton has fumbled this one. Fusion has really dropped the ball.
Who cares? She won the vote, he got the job. The election's over. If there was wrongdoing it needs to be investigated and corrected, so it cannot happen again.

So far no one has explained why her campaign shouldn't have hired an investigator to look into Trump's reported dealings with Russia and Russians. 'Know your enemy' is SOP in politics, business and war.

The misdeeds of Trump, his team and his poor family have nothing to do with the rights and wrongs of that matter that I can see.
 

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Who cares? She won the vote, he got the job. The election's over. If there was wrongdoing it needs to be investigated and corrected, so it cannot happen again.

So far no one has explained why her campaign shouldn't have hired an investigator to look into Trump's reported dealings with Russia and Russians. 'Know your enemy' is SOP in politics, business and war.

The misdeeds of Trump, his team and his poor family have nothing to do with the rights and wrongs of that matter that I can see.
But Trump Jr doing the exact same thing Is?

How about you light that hoop on fire to make this act more interesting?
 

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I have no problem with democrats funding it, digging up dirt on your competition is standard in politics and you'd be naive to think that every party doesn't do it.
So far no one has explained why her campaign shouldn't have hired an investigator to look into Trump's reported dealings with Russia and Russians.
The issue isn't that the Dems paid an investigator to look into Trump.

The issue is that the whole Russian "collusion" nonsense and all of the suggestive leaks to the media were driven by partisans on the losing side -- exactly what some of us were saying last summer. It was never a matter of national security.

The Dems lied about the fact that they were the source behind the dossier and were, in fact, the real source of this whole fake news "collusion" story.
 

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THE ISSUE HERE IS

They used the dossier to obtain a FISA warrant, to SPY on a political opponent. That is HIGHLY ILLEGAL!

THAT'S THE STORY!!
 

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Let's not forget, it was the Clinton paid FAKE 'Russian dossier' that led to the FISA warrant, which had a running presidential candidate under surveillance.
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It was a republican who funded it in the first place, Clinton's campaign took it afterwards.

Oh, how about Trump's team trying to use wikileaks to get Clinton's hacked emails?
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump...il&utm_term=0_9813b73b1a-2dd1b7c2ee-166001349

That is way dirtier then hiring Fusion.
 

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It was a republican who funded it in the first place, Clinton's campaign took it afterwards.

Oh, how about Trump's team trying to use wikileaks to get Clinton's hacked emails?
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump...il&utm_term=0_9813b73b1a-2dd1b7c2ee-166001349

That is way dirtier then hiring Fusion.
Uh Frank, the WikiLeaks were already out longgggggggggggggggggg before he said that. Nice try. I would have said the same thing as him.

They used a FAKE dossier to acquire a FISA warrant to SPY ON A POLITICAL OPPONENT. I don't care how many rino's and democrats go down! McCain, Bush, Clinton, Obama, Comey and Lynch, let them all hang!

THAT IS THE STORY
 

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THE ISSUE HERE IS

They used the dossier to obtain a FISA warrant, to SPY on a political opponent. That is HIGHLY ILLEGAL!

THAT'S THE STORY!!
Clinton didn't get the warrant.
That was the FBI, working on their own with the dossier.
'cuz its legit, you know.
 

SuperCharge

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Clinton didn't get the warrant.
That was the FBI, working on their own with the dossier.
'cuz its legit, you know.
Bahahahahahahahahahahaha. You are slowly figuring it out!

Yes, Obama's FBI. You know, the SAME FBI who usurped the DOJ (after it was made public Billy & Lynch were in cahoots) and let Clinton off the hook?! The same FBI who had made a decision to let her off the hook, well before even questioning anyone?

This was a planned methodical quest that was based on a guaranteed Hillary win where all would remain buried... make no mistake

But the best part? They used a fake dossier to SPY ON A POLITICAL OPPONENT and STILL LOST!!!
:whoo:
ROTFLMAO
 

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Frankfooter

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You are getting desperate in this and other threads in your deflections now.

That's a good sign. It means there isn't a legitimate defense
Money well spent.

That's the defence. The dossier is now in the hands of the FBI, who are looking at charges that could end Trump's presidency.
That money may have found incredible wrong doing by Trump and may have him removed from office.

Money very well spent.
 

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Money well spent.

That's the defence. The dossier is now in the hands of the FBI, who are looking at charges that could end Trump's presidency.
That money may have found incredible wrong doing by Trump and may have him removed from office.

Money very well spent.

Steyn: Everyone was colluding with Russia except Trump.


https://youtu.be/u41g5fvYGc0
 

Butler1000

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Money well spent.

That's the defence. The dossier is now in the hands of the FBI, who are looking at charges that could end Trump's presidency.
That money may have found incredible wrong doing by Trump and may have him removed from office.

Money very well spent.
The dossier has been in the hands of the FBI for 16 months. So I doubt there is anything there. It was also in the hands of several news agencies before the election who declined to publish it. Finally it was leaked to buzzfeed. And even then the press won't release any details because to do so would open them up to a libel suit because no one has been able to confirm anything beyond some meetings took place. What the content of those meetings were and even who met who doesn't appear to be verifiable.

Or they would have reported it.

Soon this will be exposed for the trash that it is. And then watch as the GOP win in the mid terms
 

oldjones

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But Trump Jr doing the exact same thing Is?

How about you light that hoop on fire to make this act more interesting?
But he did not hire a private investigator to do research and see what came up, which is what the Clinton campaign did.

He eagerly took up the invitation of a known Russian agent to come and get dirt on Clinton, then lied about doing so.

How's about you deal with the facts instead of juggling them to suit your preferences.
 
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