Was Bin Laden assassinated ?

Was Bin Laden assassinated ?

  • Yes, the SEALS were obeying a kill command

    Votes: 59 74.7%
  • No, he was killed because he resisted

    Votes: 8 10.1%
  • Unsure

    Votes: 12 15.2%

  • Total voters
    79

simon482

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You nor I may not agree with his opinions, conclusions nor morality but fuji is exponentially more intelligent than you.

If you open your mind, you may learn a few things from time to time, if not just to become more of a critical thinker and considered in your simpleton proclamations.
look at you with all your big words and shit
 

rld

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You nor I may not agree with his opinions, conclusions nor morality but fuji is exponentially more intelligent than you.

If you open your mind, you may learn a few things from time to time, if not just to become more of a critical thinker and considered in your simpleton proclamations.
Would you offer the same advice to Fuji who often declares things that are factually wrong in a condescending way and then refuses to admit his error or apologize when it is shown he is factually wrong?

Is that how you define intelligence?
 

OnlySex

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not sure what you are reading but he grabbed his wife as a human sheild, she was not charging and he was armed and firing.
This has been acknowledged as fantasy many times over both by the white house and the military. He did not hide behind his wife, he was not armed - it should take you very little effort to google the step by step account. The hiding behind wife firing a gun was just the way most westerners expected him to behave.

That aside, it did not matter - he should have been executed. On a gallows, firing squad - it's just semantics. It was humane and he didn't suffer. Problem solved. If he lived and was captured - it would have been a political circus.
 

simon482

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This has been acknowledged as fantasy many times over both by the white house and the military. He did not hide behind his wife, he was not armed - it should take you very little effort to google the step by step account. The hiding behind wife firing a gun was just the way most westerners expected him to behave.

That aside, it did not matter - he should have been executed. On a gallows, firing squad - it's just semantics. It was humane and he didn't suffer. Problem solved. If he lived and was captured - it would have been a political circus.
he should have been killed slowly and torutured in ways most people can't even think of. he got off way to fucking easy for what he did. if the wife was charging and she was only injured she got off easy as well.

as for the reports of what happened no one knows but the people that were there. i have heard from way more sources that he was armed and firing and hiding behind his wife than i do anything else. internets stories are very easy to fake and everyone is out to make everyone else look bad.
 

OnlySex

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as for the reports of what happened no one knows but the people that were there. i have heard from way more sources that he was armed and firing and hiding behind his wife than i do anything else.
A couple credible accounts based on the reports of people who should know.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/04/osama-bin-laden-killing-us-story-change

http://911truthnews.com/media-regurgitates-false-government-claims-in-bin-laden-killing/

It seems that some people would rather believe in the concept of Bin Laden using his wife as a shield while firing at the seals. If it makes you feel better - then you can stick to the Hollywood version.
 

simon482

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A couple credible accounts based on the reports of people who should know.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/04/osama-bin-laden-killing-us-story-change

http://911truthnews.com/media-regurgitates-false-government-claims-in-bin-laden-killing/

It seems that some people would rather believe in the concept of Bin Laden using his wife as a shield while firing at the seals. If it makes you feel better - then you can stick to the Hollywood version.
i don't care if he was hiding, or unarmed or shooting back or whatever. i really don't care what he was doing when he died, i am just happy that he is dead and i think the guys did the right thing 100%. like i said he got off easy for what he did, no matter what he was doing at the last second. reports mean nothing because the reality of it will never be seen by the public.
 

fuji

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Isn't common knowledge that the majority of Muslims are not extremists like OBL? They all know he was villain and manipulator just like the Taliban. There are other ways to win the MI over. I doubt they will care about him in the long run but the US can't drop the ball on doing whatever it can to support those who are in favour of democracy & individual rights in the Arab states.
Just to make sure we're clear: I'm not suggesting they're losing any sleep over bin Laden. What is making people angry was the arrogant violation of Pakistani sovereignty.
 

fuji

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Would you offer the same advice to Fuji who often declares things that are factually wrong in a condescending way and then refuses to admit his error or apologize when it is shown he is factually wrong?

Is that how you define intelligence?
You're speaking about yourself. I still remember your first thread on here where you fucked up in saying that there was no religious imperative in Muslim communities to wear the naqib or the hajib. When it was pointed out to you that it's in the Haddiths you stone-walled and insisted that only the Koran mattered and kept repeating endlessly that it wasn't in the Koran.

You weren't man enough to acknowledge your errors then, and you've been just as arrogant ever since.

Most of your arguments you simply start out stating that you think you are superior or that the other person doesn't understand something, next you proceed into a detailed analysis of something fundamentally irrelevant to the point being made.

Often you'll make one stab at a valid argument but then when confronted with contradictory facts you wander off into bafflegab. Like when you tried to claim that the US operation in Pakistan was legal, first you brought up the valid point that it's legitimate to attack into a neutral country if that country isn't taking up the issue on its own. But Pakistan has clearly taken up that issue, and repeatedly attacked al Qaeda--and when that was pointed out to you, you reverted to mindless bafflegab.

There is no-one on this board more arrogant than you. Not only do you fail to admit your glaring errors when you make them, you try and snow everyone over with a bunch of gibberish to cover it up when it happens.

I will give you credit that, unlike say blackrock, you do say intelligent things from time to time. You'd be a valuable contributor here if you toned down the arrogance a bit. I may be arrogant, but it's because I'm often right. About the only thing I don't back down from are moral imperatives--I have fairly strongly held and firmly argued views. You are wrong in your claim that I won't back down if I get the facts wrong--but you have a tendency to mis-use the word fact, too.

You on the other hand do get basic facts wrong and then try to cover it up with bafflegab. For example, your claim that there was no religious edict requiring Muslims to wear the Hajib. It's factually wrong. For some Muslim sects it's clear in the Haddiths, which have the status of religious law.
 

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After being locked up with his wives for 5+ years the first thing out of his mouth when the SEALS barged in was, "Just kill me!"
-David Letterman
 

simon482

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Just to make sure we're clear: I'm not suggesting they're losing any sleep over bin Laden. What is making people angry was the arrogant violation of Pakistani sovereignty.
he would have been tipped off and gotten away if they were told. pakistan was playing both sides of the coin.
 

OnlySex

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i don't care if he was hiding, or unarmed or shooting back or whatever. i really don't care what he was doing when he died, i am just happy that he is dead and i think the guys did the right thing 100%. like i said he got off easy for what he did, no matter what he was doing at the last second. reports mean nothing because the reality of it will never be seen by the public.
That aside, it did not matter - he should have been executed. On a gallows, firing squad - it's just semantics. It was humane and he didn't suffer. Problem solved. If he lived and was captured - it would have been a political circus.
You and I have no difference in opinion on the outcome.
 

Queen

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Supposedly the National Equirer stated that OBL was high on Heroine, so then wasn't assassinated.
 

smuddan

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The first questions popped up in my mind when I first heard about the OBL killing was whether or not he should have and could have been captured alive.

Having seen and heard the arguments on both sides, I am much more convinced today that it was the right call made by Obama.

To those who disagree, I'd ask if you think any other president, other than GWB, would have made a different decision ?

If he was captured alive in this supposedly illegal operation by the SEAL team and the fact that it was on Pakistani soil, how much troubles would the US have in having him extradited to US for a trial ?

With all the other negatives already mentioned elsewhere, I just don't see how any other president would have made a different decision.
 

Yoga Face

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Can you point out Terb Members ?

Funny stuff

90% of TERBS disbelieve the WHite House or question the kill

An unprofessional sample group perhaps but, IMHO, it is indicative of a lot of people so why does the press roll over on this one !

After Iraq the American press said they learned to question the White House and would not allow it to happen again so where are the main stream reporters digging for the truth

I thought CNN`s motto was "Keeping them honest"
 

bammab007

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I dont think someone who.admits to the shit he did gets a choice if they are caught. said dummy could have surrendered years before and face the music. He didnt and the world moved on. Now his fuck-o kids are upset about it? They need a left nutsack to lick.
 

The Fox

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You all missed the point here and its very simple. Who fired the first shot? The SEALs were going into an extremely dangerous situation and were shot at. At this point the rules of engagement change and they are free to act. You cannot hesitate.
 
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