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It's not just Walmart, it's just about any retailer. Try to find a coffemaker, a radio, a toy, a t-shirt, a shoe, a cordless drill made in North America. This concept of cheap goods and expensive everything else (high raw materials, expensive real estate, high utilities, stagnant wages, unsustainable pensions) is shoved down our throats because BigCorp. can squeeze out more profit.
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Exactly Wal Mart exists because people shop there.
Point number 2 Wal Mart provides jobs ( LOW PAYING ONES MIND YOU ) for a lot of people . They could hire 50 % less people and pay 50 % more but then there would be more people without jobs. Lets face it generally the people working at Wal Mart are not greatly skilled and as such $ 8 - $ 8.50 per hr is the going rate not just at Wal mart . I personally would like to see even unskilled people making a more decent salary but the growing population of new immigrants means there will always be people to fill jobs at those wages sad but true.
 
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Pick up at Walmart

Walmart is an incredible place to meet women. Seriously. The girls there are largely (although not entirely) from the underclasses of Canadian/American society. ie the working poor. If a guy walks into most Walmarts wearing relatively nice clothes (ie. not the idiot's uniform of jeans, sneakers, a sweatshirt and a ballcap), he stands out from the crowd. Any available ladies in the store, those in the market for a boyfriend, will notice that you're not the typical mullet-topped loser they're exposed to, and depending on how good you are with words, you can very easily acquire a girlfriend in the aisles of Walmart.

God Bless Walmart.
 
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As for the story about H & H hardware rep saying that it didn't have anything to do with Walmart coming to town: he was probably paid to deny Walmart's involvement. Wouldn't be the first time.

As for Walmart in Canada. For a fact, I know that they have a practise of retailer warfare: They move into a town or small city, build the big box stores on the outskirts, sell their product at cost or below, drive the competition out of business, then bring their prices up to their standard levels. When they came to Canada many thought they would be able to do this here. Canadian Tire shares dropped about 75%. Fortunately for us, we have retail laws that prevent this type of operation. While they have impacted retail prices their prices are not out of line with Zellers, CTC etc. You can basically get the same items they sell, from other retailers, at the same price.

As for their treatment of employees. We have stricter labour laws here so employees cannot be treated as badly as they are elsewhere. As for "if you don't like the work, go elsewhere" argument. Unfortunately Walmart has dominated some retail markets and there is no place left to work.....

Unfortunately their way of doing business is being adopted elsewhere. I worked for CTC for over 15 yrs and at the beginning, AJ Billes (one of the founders) stated that he and his brother started the business to a) provide canadians with canadian goods at reasonable prices and b) to create jobs for canadians and be part of the community. While this is still partly true CTC has moved away from the creation of jobs and moved more into the profitability category. least that was how it was going when I left.....

Not to be a doomsayer or anything but the day is coming when large corporations realize that there is more to business than making huge profits. There will come a time when market saturation is so great that a balance is unobtainable and the shift will have to be moved from profits, to staying in business and being a part of the community and economy, instead of trying to dominate the economy.

BTW I don't generally shop there, and I think I've only been in a walmart 4 times in my life.......
 
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Not to be a doomsayer or anything but the day is coming when large corporations realize that there is more to business than making huge profits. There will come a time when market saturation is so great that a balance is unobtainable and the shift will have to be moved from profits, to staying in business and being a part of the community and economy, instead of trying to dominate the economy.
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Good point. I think also that there are already some communities in the US who refuse to give licenses to Walmart.
 
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As a rule Canadians know the price of everything, but the value of nothing.


I can say that because I am Canadian.
 
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Now I wouldn't boycott a retailer for doing what they do in terms of trying to lower costs. That's capitalism for you.

But.

This just shows how callous and mean-spirited they are. To sue a brain-injured woman for all that she won in a lawsuit plus costs on top of that shows how despicable they are. To even file a lawsuit to "keep the door open" is disgusting.

http://www.wakeupwalmart.com/news/20050816-spd.html

I went to rehab with a number of folks who through no fault of their own have to spend the rest of their lives facing major difficulties. As a result, this hits me kind of hard. Henceforth, me and family will not be shopping at this corporation.

I hope you can do the same.
 
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tboy said:
Not to be a doomsayer or anything but the day is coming when large corporations realize that there is more to business than making huge profits. There will come a time when market saturation is so great that a balance is unobtainable and the shift will have to be moved from profits, to staying in business and being a part of the community and economy, instead of trying to dominate the economy.
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Sure.
 
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superquad1968 said:
This just shows how callous and mean-spirited they are. To sue a brain-injured woman for all that she won in a lawsuit plus costs on top of that shows how despicable they are. To even file a lawsuit to "keep the door open" is disgusting.
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This is where Canadians are clueless about the way healthcare is played out in the US. She has a self-insured plan from her UNION and Wa-Mart. These plans stipulate they get the first cut of the money in any lawsuit. Plus they are usually crappy plans to begin with (she probably also opted for the lower cost long term disabilty coverage) so she's screwed twice.
 
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Not clueless just compassionate.

They are suing her for every penny she received from the lawsuit, plus an additional $51,000. Money that went to lawyers and costs.

If Wal-Mart wins this lawsuit, this woman will not be able to afford her medical expenses or the medical caretaker who lives with her. Her husband would have to sell the van they bought to accommodate her wheelchair and he would have to divorce her just so she will qualify for Medicaid.

Just another reason I'm glad I live in Canada and not the US.
 
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superquad1968 said:
Not clueless just compassionate.

They are suing her for every penny she received from the lawsuit, plus an additional $51,000. Money that went to lawyers and costs.

If Wal-Mart wins this lawsuit, this woman will not be able to afford her medical expenses or the medical caretaker who lives with her. Her husband would have to sell the van they bought to accommodate her wheelchair and he would have to divorce her just so she will qualify for Medicaid.

Just another reason I'm glad I live in Canada and not the US.
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next to the teachers union the laywers are the one of most influential lobby groups in the USA.
Part of their rampant behaviour is responsible for the high cost of medical care.
In that regard I agree. Canada and Europe has a much better lid on frivilous lawsuits. Although i am not implying that hers was one..
 
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superquad1968 said:
This just shows how callous and mean-spirited they are. To sue a brain-injured woman for all that she won in a lawsuit plus costs on top of that shows how despicable they are. To even file a lawsuit to "keep the door open" is disgusting.

As a result, this hits me kind of hard. Henceforth, me and family will not be shopping at this corporation.

I hope you can do the same.
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I agree I think it is totally disgusting to do this to somebody injured , she obviously can't care for herself . I do note however that one of the lawyers
says that Wal Mart is not the only company that goes after settlements. This is terrible and shows little regard for those permanently injured. It makes me wonder what my company would do or other companies. I am not sure if a boycott would help but maybe you should right a letter and get others to sign it and send it to Wal Mart to let them know why you don't shop there.
 
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Look not to defend the liers (lawyers)

But when you opt for the lowest cost healthcare it comes with a price.

Were it up to me I would ban lawyers from being judges and give justice back to the people.
 
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Just kidding with you papa.

Of course we all have issues. If you were offended I take it back. :)
 
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superquad1968 said:
Just kidding with you papa.

Of course we all have issues. If you were offended I take it back. :)
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Happy? See above.
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But when you opt for the lowest cost healthcare it comes with a price.
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Yeah, I guess a person stocking shelves at Walmart should really spend all her money going for a Cadillac health care plan. No wonder that the people in the US who can afford decent healthcare don't want the system to change, because their asses get pampered like there is no tomorrow while the working stiff get screwed.
 
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