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Wal-Mart:
The High Cost Of Low Price

Documentary directed by Robert Greenwald
98 minutes
Bloor Cinema, 506 Bloor St. W. Nov. 27. 4:30 p.m.
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If you're going to tackle big business, it pays to start at the top.
Activist-director Robert Greenwald takes on the world's largest corporation in Wal-Mart: The High Cost Of Low Price in a damning documentary that will make you think twice about where you buy cheap underwear.
Don't expect any Michael Moore-style publicity stunts here. Nor will you find Greenwald eating super-sized burger meals to prove a point. The director lets his subjects do the talking ? which is just fine, since they are mostly former Wal-Mart employees, many of them high-ranking insiders with disturbing stories to tell.
The Wal-Mart universe painted by Greenwald is grimly Dickensian, supported on the backs of what seems to be an underworld of Tiny Tim clerks barely eking out a subsistence living.
Wal-Mart's "plantation capitalism," as one observer puts it, of unpaid overtime, stingy benefits and the use of poorly paid labour shows capitalism at the height of its powers ? and the potential for abuse.
Weldon Nicholson, Wal-Mart manager for 17 years, says he was the ultimate store soldier until his conscience got to him and he quit. His job was to systematically force out workers suspected of union activity. Other Wal-Mart employees accuse the corporation of shaving hours off employee time cards and playing hardball with towns that opposed Wal-Mart projects.
Jim Bill Lynn, a former global services operations manager for Wal-Mart whose job was to certify factories in Central America, says over the course of his inspections he saw workers earning pitiful wages while locked inside plants without drinking water, and forced to work until released by management.
Lynn says after his first inspection, he went back to his hotel room and wept.
A lot of the material isn't new: Wal-Mart shares haven't had a stellar year, one reason being that the retailer has been the target of a host of lawsuits, alleging everything from environmental, to labour and health and safety violations. But no one has managed to put it together this comprehensively.
Corporations as evil empires sticking it to humanity in their quest for profit and world market domination is already a thoroughly mined genre. It took Michael Moore's 1989 breakthrough Roger&Me to reveal not only was there an audience for the documentary as polemic on the perils of corporatization, but box office to be reaped as well. Following in the footsteps of Moore, Morgan Spurlock sparred with McDonald's in Super Size Me.
But while Moore decapitates his victims with a keen wit, Greenwald (Uncovered: The War On Iraq and Outfoxed: Rupert Murdoch's War On Journalism) is far more earnest, verging on being ham-handed.
CEO Scott is shown boasting about his $10 lunches and sharing hotel rooms with his fellow executives to lower costs when he took home more than $17 million last year. That's in comparison to the average Wal-Mart worker, who makes an average of $13,861 annually ? less than $10 an hour, according to Greenwald.
Still, that's better than what Wal-Mart sub-contractors pay employees in Bangladesh or China, where workers average 17 cents an hour, according to one study.
Sensitive to the fact that the $1.8 million documentary could be crippling to the Christian, family loving image of the retailer, Wal-Mart has struck back at the filmmakers by putting together their own war room of spin doctors to respond to the film.
Calling Greenwald's film an "error-ridden propaganda video," Wal-Mart says the documentary will have limited appeal beyond the "special interests" that Greenwald represents.
Wal-Mart is wrong.
 

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Walmart sells and people buy. For that matter so many common folks invest in them thru pension funds and make money.
 

Meister

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It's a great place to shop until it hits you directly. For example when the company you work for shuts down because Walmart can source the microwave, which you have been producing for 20 years, for 85 cents less in China.

But, hey, for all those high paying jobs we are shipping off to China there are very promising careers left for everybody here, such as: hairdressing, home depot sales consultant and of course walmart greeter. Now it doesn't sound so bad.
 

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I downloaded and watched the film last night. Wow i had heard stuff about Wal-Mart before but if all of that is true i can't imagine a worse company. Makes me think about going into the one right behind my house!
 

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Where did you guys D/L it from?
 
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The Wal-Mart Movie: Viewer Beware

" flat-out factually inaccurate"

The movie tells the story of H&H Hardware in Middlefield, Ohio. It's a good business, run by good people, but a Wal-Mart is coming to town, and H&H is forced out of business.


But it turns out the story did not happen as Greenwald presents it. H&H closed three months before the Wal-Mart opened its doors, and Don Hunter told me that the decision to shut down H&H had nothing to do with Wal-Mart. "Really, there was no connection," he told me. "I've seen a lot of small local entities wiped out because of Wal-Mart, it happens all over, but that was not the case here." In addition, businesspeople in Middlefield told me that H&H had been a troubled enterprise for several years.....

.......why did Robert Greenwald begin a high-profile indictment of Wal-Mart with an argument that just doesn't hold up?


Whole article here
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/byron-york/the-walmart-movie-viewe_b_11025.html
 

RTRD

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secret_touch said:
" flat-out factually inaccurate"

The movie tells the story of H&H Hardware in Middlefield, Ohio. It's a good business, run by good people, but a Wal-Mart is coming to town, and H&H is forced out of business.


But it turns out the story did not happen as Greenwald presents it. H&H closed three months before the Wal-Mart opened its doors, and Don Hunter told me that the decision to shut down H&H had nothing to do with Wal-Mart. "Really, there was no connection," he told me. "I've seen a lot of small local entities wiped out because of Wal-Mart, it happens all over, but that was not the case here." In addition, businesspeople in Middlefield told me that H&H had been a troubled enterprise for several years.....

.......why did Robert Greenwald begin a high-profile indictment of Wal-Mart with an argument that just doesn't hold up?


Whole article here
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/byron-york/the-walmart-movie-viewe_b_11025.html
...but the truth is often less interesting than a trumped up story.
 

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langeweile said:
The reason why Walmart is what it is today, is because of us, shopping there.
It's not just Walmart, it's just about any retailer. Try to find a coffemaker, a radio, a toy, a t-shirt, a shoe, a cordless drill made in North America. This concept of cheap goods and expensive everything else (high raw materials, expensive real estate, high utilities, stagnant wages, unsustainable pensions) is shoved down our throats because BigCorp. can squeeze out more profit.
 

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Meister said:
It's not just Walmart, it's just about any retailer. Try to find a coffemaker, a radio, a toy, a t-shirt, a shoe, a cordless drill made in North America. This concept of cheap goods and expensive everything else (high raw materials, expensive real estate, high utilities, stagnant wages, unsustainable pensions) is shoved down our throats because BigCorp. can squeeze out more profit.
don't blame just the corporations - every time you purchase a product or buy from a retailer you are choosing to support their ethos whether you doit consciously or not. Everyone knows that walmart sells at the lowest price possible, and that they do it by constantly pushing on their suppliers to sell it to them cheaper and cheaper each year. why - because consumers have decided that buying it cheap is the most important factor in their buying decision- not where the product is made, not quality or innovative design but cost. the corporations are doing what they are supposed to do - which is meet consumer demand.
 

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red said:
don't blame just the corporations - every time you purchase a product or buy from a retailer you are choosing to support their ethos whether you doit consciously or not. Everyone knows that walmart sells at the lowest price possible, and that they do it by constantly pushing on their suppliers to sell it to them cheaper and cheaper each year. why - because consumers have decided that buying it cheap is the most important factor in their buying decision- not where the product is made, not quality or innovative design but cost. the corporations are doing what they are supposed to do - which is meet consumer demand.

OMG
Red and I agree on something...

*marks calendar*
 

Meister

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red said:
the corporations are doing what they are supposed to do - which is meet consumer demand.
that's not what they are in business for. they are in business to maximize profits and increase shareholder value.

If your theory was correct they would open up a walmart in downtown toronto to meet the demand of all those willing buyers downtown. Since that would be way to unprofitable for walmart they choose to go to the outskirts and ignore the downtown buyers.
 

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Meister said:
that's not what they are in business for. they are in business to maximize profits and increase shareholder value.

If your theory was correct they would open up a walmart in downtown toronto to meet the demand of all those willing buyers downtown. Since that would be way to unprofitable for walmart they choose to go to the outskirts and ignore the downtown buyers.
The majority of people in North america live in the "burbs"
 

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Can't blame Wal Mart for their practices... they've created a whole whack of jobs, fueled local economies (though killing others), and provided mass materialism to those who would otherwise not be able to afford.

And really, we the consumers are to blame, the more we shop at Wal Mart, the more they'll go on with their practices. And it's hard not to shop at Wally's cuz the prices are so damned low! Video games, DVDs, cheap clothing, groceries, etc.

And lastly, the fact that they continually make everything in China/Taiwan/India, shouldn't be blamed on the company, blame the demographics and government. China has no problems with children working for 10 cents an hour and that's what it all comes down to, the almighty $. The reason why nothing is ever made in North America, is cuz people here are greedy and picky. Why pay you $20 per hour when I can find an immigrant or overseas worker for $5 per hour who will happily take it?
 

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Aren't the same practices being done by Zeller's? I find their prices to be about the same.
This is just an old continuation of Henry Ford's efficiency methods, to get products delivered faster and cheaper.
 

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Svend said:
Aren't the same practices being done by Zeller's? I find their prices to be about the same.
This is just an old continuation of Henry Ford's efficiency methods, to get products delivered faster and cheaper.
little known fact. Walmart was the first major retailer to implement the "just in time" delivery system.
The reduction in storage cost combined with holding suppliers responsible for keeping the shelves filled, allowed them to cut overhead by a large amount.
 
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