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Aardvark154

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This suggest that we aren't taking our share of illegals, or that the US is operating a system that runs with much higher volumes.
Or that the U.S. shares a border with Mexico and is much closer to Central America, either of which is the case with Canada.
 

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Or that you have intentionally built an economy that relies on massive amounts of illegal labor to function.
Seemingly all those who believe that something has to be done about the problem of illegal immigration including me, just aren't with the plan.
 

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Seemingly all those who believe that something has to be done about the problem of illegal immigration including me, just aren't with the plan.
Not surprised since you do nothing but apologize for your Corporatist masters running that illegal, immoral 'underground' economy that needs illegal workers they abuse to exist!....:rolleyes:
 

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Or that you have intentionally built an economy that relies on massive amounts of illegal labor to function.
maybe it does rely on it now due to the volume of available cheap labor, but to say it is structured intentionally is totally dishonest on your part. only reason canada isnt experiencing this is hmmm let me think... oh yes you dont have a border with mexico.

even southern european countries are experiencing difficulty with illegal immigration from northern africa, and definitely cheap labor is being taken advantage of as well, where are you on that?? seems to me its just too easy to bash the USA on this kind of matter

what about the plight of millions of migrant workers around the globe doing jobs waaay below their market value, are they supposed to have voting rights in those countries as well? pakistani, indian, filipino workers alone number in the millions in the middle east and are vital to their economies, you can say their economies are structured to employ migrant workers, do they have the rights you are advocating for the hispanic migrants in the US?
 

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Kupall, it may not originally have been an intentional policy, but it sure is one now. You don't have 12 million workers employed in key industry without someone turning a blind eye. In fact, the laws enacted so far do more to marginalize these workers and worsen their abuse than reduce their numbers.

It's a form of apartheid. The same US industries that once relied on black slaves now rely on "illegal" labor.

As for whether the US is alone in practicing apartheid, I suspect there are other countries with similarly immoral practices, but Americans are answerable for the crimes against humanity they commit, whether or not there are other offenders.
 

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Or that the U.S. shares a border with Mexico and is much closer to Central America, either of which is the case with Canada.
Ah wuzza, wuzza, did gweat big mean old Mexico overpower little old America? Forcing unwanted millions of its undetectable, undocumented nationals across the border without anyone noticing?

In fact American employers from giant meat-packers to movie-stars were quite happy to exploit these people if they could save a buck doing it. They were easier victims than even unqualified native-born who still knew they had enforceable rights. But these people had skills, wanted the work and had no rights. And from the seeds that go in the ground, to the wave that goes in your hair, America built a whole chunk of its economy on exploiting them. They—the well-to-do- employer class—certainly have been damn vocal about not paying anymore taxes that might limit, let alone choke off the flow. And they're happy to take those bucks back, in their stores and cheque-cashing businesses where illegals send money home and encourage even more to come here.

Just as with slavery, marketplace greed, antipathy towards regulation, and moral laziness have allowed a peculiar institution to grow and metastasize into all aspects of American life so that doing what once might have been simple: Enforcing the immigration laws, now is freighted with cruel unintended consequences in all sorts of quarters. If the illegals all left tonight, the unemployed Americans would be just as un-qualified or as over-qualified for those jobs as they are now. You might have a job surplus instead of an unemployment problem, but you'd also have a major social upheaval threatening your society instead of the straightforward process of accepting reality that so many are blindly resisting, just as the southern establishment did a century and a half ago. These now are your people too.

America's problem is bigger than ID.
 

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+1!!!!

Well said!.....:thumb:
 
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