Seeing that they are taxpayers , they do represent us
They just challenge what you lefties think is a right to freely spend other peoples money in order to enrich public sector unions
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They just challenge what you lefties think is a right to freely spend other peoples money in order to enrich public sector unions
Does this mean they are like baseball free agents and will most likely join the highest bidder for their services?Besides if these people are worth what we are paying them, they should have no trouble securing a similar or better compensation package in the private sector
larue, far right wing wack jobs do not represent us........ right wing wack jobs like you spew nonsense ...........Seeing that they are taxpayers , they do represent us
They just challenge what you lefties think is a right to freely spend other peoples money in order to enrich public sector unions
OKlarue, far right wing wack jobs do not represent us........ right wing wack jobs like you spew nonsense ...........
You the left wing loonie represent taxpayers???
AbsolutelyDoes this mean they are like baseball free agents and will most likely join the highest bidder for their services?
Perhaps all of them will be able to increase their compensation & they will not have to resort to blackmailing the public
For bat boy,...maybe.Does this mean they are like baseball free agents and will most likely join the highest bidder for their services?
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thats not the point........a far right interest group represents only right wing idealogues, not the general public............and yes we are tax payers, but we are also , consumers, and citizens...........you and other right wing true believers see only humans as commodities and tax payersOK
You the left wing loonie represent taxpayers???
No I am afraid notthats not the point........a far right interest group represents only right wing idealogues, not the general public............and yes we are tax payers, but we are also , consumers, and citizens...........you and other right wing true believers see only humans as commodities and tax payers
I see all citizens of Ontario getting royally screwed just a few years down the road when this debt issue blows up & it will
What really amazes me is lefties who can get so wound up about an issue , and who are so passionate about maintaining "our precious social safety net" yet conveniently ignore the fact that this debt issue threatens all of the social programs
It will be a whole lot rougher than the 100,000 Hudack is talking about if this problem is not addressed
This is not political ideology or scare tactics this is a mathematical certainty
Surely people who manage their own finances & pay down their mortgages must understand the implications of too much debt
Hey genius.. Members of the Ontario Working Families Coalition also pay taxes.. So I guess (according to YOU) they ALSO represent us..Seeing that they are taxpayers , they do represent us
They just challenge what you lefties think is a right to freely spend other peoples money in order to enrich public sector unions
My point was that BOTH sides of the political spectrum have their attack dogs that use misleading names to disguise what their actual agenda is..
People like you seem to give the one that supports THEIR agenda a pass..
The unions, and the none unionised.
2nd,...since that group is financed by unions,...how the hell would you compare them with the "Toronto Tax Payers Coalition"...which is NOT just looking after union greed, but for the general population.
Also, still have NOT seen a Toronto Tax Payers Coalition prime time TV ad, or a page in the RED Star politicking, so a different category all together.
And while we are the subject of taxes,…its obvious that unionised civil servants should be taxed at a higher rate than private sector workers,…for a number of reasons, including, correcting the growing wage gap, and the growing debt problem.
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Let me help out here,...the Ontario Working Families Coalition is in fact union supported/based,...so 1st,...the name is at the least not exactly truthful.Hey genius.. Members of the Ontario Working Families Coalition also pay taxes.. So I guess (according to YOU) they ALSO represent us..
My point was that BOTH sides of the political spectrum have their attack dogs that use misleading names to disguise what their actual agenda is..
People like you seem to give the one that supports THEIR agenda a pass..
2nd,...since that group is financed by unions,...how the hell would you compare them with the "Toronto Tax Payers Coalition"...which is NOT just looking after union greed, but for the general population.
Also, still have NOT seen a Toronto Tax Payers Coalition prime time TV ad, or a page in the RED Star politicking, so a different category all together.
And while we are the subject of taxes,…its obvious that unionised civil servants should be taxed at a higher rate than private sector workers,…for a number of reasons, including, correcting the growing wage gap, and the growing debt problem.
FAST
I was honestly considering the PCs this election. Of the three leaders it seems only Hudak understands that Ontario is on the wrong side of history:
a) wrong side of NAFTA
b) wrong side of the tar sands/shale
Even though his solution is incredibly lame (lower the standard of living so we are competitive on unit labor costs with right to work rustbelt States) at least it addresses the reality of the situation.
However, he is too stupid for me to support. The 'arithmetic error' is shocking in a professionally trained economist. I always thought Hudak was a ratlike turd, but I would have easily ranked him above Horvath in intelligence. Unfortunately that is clearly not the case, and I have had my fill of aliterate retardation from the Ford Bros, so I am left voting for corrupt Wynne.
a) wrong side of NAFTA
b) wrong side of the tar sands/shale
Even though his solution is incredibly lame (lower the standard of living so we are competitive on unit labor costs with right to work rustbelt States) at least it addresses the reality of the situation.
However, he is too stupid for me to support. The 'arithmetic error' is shocking in a professionally trained economist. I always thought Hudak was a ratlike turd, but I would have easily ranked him above Horvath in intelligence. Unfortunately that is clearly not the case, and I have had my fill of aliterate retardation from the Ford Bros, so I am left voting for corrupt Wynne.
So basically you're giving one "coalition" a pass because you support their agenda.Let me help out here,...the Ontario Working Families Coalition is in fact union supported/based,...so 1st,...the name is at the least not exactly truthful.
2nd,...since that group is financed by unions,...how the hell would you compare them with the "Toronto Tax Payers Coalition"...which is NOT just looking after union greed, but for the general population.
Also, still have NOT seen a Toronto Tax Payers Coalition prime time TV ad, or a page in the RED Star politicking, so a different category all together.
And while we are the subject of taxes,…its obvious that unionised civil servants should be taxed at a higher rate than private sector workers,…for a number of reasons, including, correcting the growing wage gap, and the growing debt problem.
FAST
Listen pal, the fact that the Toronto Tax Payers Coalition hasn't scraped up enough dough to make a commercial (though I'm quite certain I've read them in the past) is immaterial. Their "opinions" are in the paper all the time. Their spokesperson (conveniently also their founder) appears regularly on Television panels spouting shit that he declares is what "Torontonians" want... The Toronto Tax Payers Coalition claims to support all tax payers, but they really only support right wing ideologies.. Not only that, but this wasn't a "coalition" started by a large group of concerned citizens.. It was a "coalition" started by one fucking guy (Matthew McGuire) in 2010 and it did nothing other than support Mayor Ford at EVERY FUCKING TURN for at least 3 years.
Like I said, you're giving one group a pass because you like them, and giving the other a big fail because you hate them. You are demonstrating that you are partisan and incapable of any kind of objective (or critical) thinking.
Or Green... Why does everybody ignore The Green Party? They're fiscally conservative and soclially liberal.. Which pretty much defines every guy here.so I am left voting for corrupt Wynne.
Let's say there are 100,000 jobs eliminated as Hukak suggests. Let's also assume the average job is $45K. That's a savings of 4.5B. We would also not get the tax revenue from those folks, so we would deduct let's say 30% from the 4.5B, which would be a net savings to the Ontario budget of 3.15 billion dollars. Damn, that's three gas plant scandals right there and a reduction in the bloated government - all of which is a cost centre to taxpayers. That 3.15B could go to reduction of the deficit, creation of private sector jobs or a combination of both...makes sense to me. Why do you think this is crap?Vote for PC and watch as jobs disappear, cuts made to services, and no appreciable reduction to the deficit.
Geez, do people really believe the crap coming out of Hudaks mouth?
Did anyone watch the debate a week ago? People keep bring up this 100k job cutting thing. Hudak stated that those jobs will be government sector job cuts over the course of 4 years. But technically I wouldn't call them cuts. Over the next 4 years these people will be retiring (full pensions) and there positions won't be refilled.
How the hell does the Liberals even deserve your vote??? I honestly?? They have one of THE worse records I've ever seen. How bad does it have to get before Liberal voters say, enough? Was 3 + Billion wasted with nothing to show. Is that not enough? Was all the scandals and ongoing one's not enough? 42% increase on hydro to pay for there mistakes. Is that not enough? What if they slaughtered a bunch of babies? Would that change your mind? I really don't get it???
You wouldn't dare promote or hire someone who's fucked up this much if you ran a company. Unless you wanted your company to go under? If that's the case,
ANY other party would be better, ANY! There isn't a single justifiable reason that anyone should vote Liberal. There track record trumps everything. No amount of apologies can erase what they've done and continue to do (Mars).
How the hell does the Liberals even deserve your vote??? I honestly?? They have one of THE worse records I've ever seen. How bad does it have to get before Liberal voters say, enough? Was 3 + Billion wasted with nothing to show. Is that not enough? Was all the scandals and ongoing one's not enough? 42% increase on hydro to pay for there mistakes. Is that not enough? What if they slaughtered a bunch of babies? Would that change your mind? I really don't get it???
You wouldn't dare promote or hire someone who's fucked up this much if you ran a company. Unless you wanted your company to go under? If that's the case,
ANY other party would be better, ANY! There isn't a single justifiable reason that anyone should vote Liberal. There track record trumps everything. No amount of apologies can erase what they've done and continue to do (Mars).
That is also a 3.15 billion dollar reduction in stimulus to the economy. Whether it is tough medicine we should take can be debated, but anyone who claims they will be creating jobs while withdrawing billions in stimulus is just a liar.Let's say there are 100,000 jobs eliminated as Hukak suggests. Let's also assume the average job is $45K. That's a savings of 4.5B. We would also not get the tax revenue from those folks, so we would deduct let's say 30% from the 4.5B, which would be a net savings to the Ontario budget of 3.15 billion dollars.
