USA to take over GAZA

Anbarandy

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Thanks for not inconveniencing. But honestly, the Palestinians must hate living there. They’re literally trapped there due to geopolitics and no other country will accept them. We aren’t doing them any favors letting them be there.

Yes some feel rooted to that land but we are many generations removed from people who strongly still want to for those reasons.
Wait, what?

So ur a Pali whisperer now?
 
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Anbarandy

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"taking over Gaza doesn't mean war...LoL..." More like US trying to oversee the rebuild of Gaza, They will probably remove Hamas in the equation and make sure Palestinians don't get the short end of the stick and also force Israel to back off.... win for Palestinians...
Of course it doesn't!

Of course they will!

Of course it is!

You can't corral black hole density.
 
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Skoob

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They are people of the land and they don't want to move.
Nor should they have to move.
The resolution to that conflict shouldn't be an ethnic cleansing.
It should be an agreement between both parties, even though that is easier said than done.
Ethnic cleansing shouldn't even be discussed. What have we come to?
Also, I don't think anyone else can solve the problem there.
It is up to the Israelis and the Palestinians to do that.
Others can only mediate.
Sounds like the last 75 years of failure.
How has doing the same thing over and over worked out?

There are two options here:
1) keep doing the same thing, and everyone accepts that there will never be peace in that part of the world
2) try something new


 
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Shaquille Oatmeal

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2) try something new
I choose option 2.
Try something new, like actually resolving the issue through earnest negotiation than playing a game of who can ethnically cleanse who for 8 decades.
Yes, that is easier said in a sentence than done, but no one said it would be easy.
 
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Skoob

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You make a good point, he is so terrified of dealing with any of the actual issues like Ukraine and Gaza, that he picks fights with Canada and Mexico. lol
He's accomplished more in 2 weeks than Biden did in 4 years.
I've never seen so many liberal heads spinning at the same time not knowing where to focus their outrage!
 

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He's accomplished more in 2 weeks than Biden did in 4 years.
I've never seen so many liberal heads spinning at the same time not knowing where to focus their outrage!
Trump has waved his arms a lot. But what has he accomplished?

1. Irreparable damage to the relationship with Canada and Mexico
2. Antagonized Denmark and most of Europe in solidarity.
3. Setting the stage for total chaos in Middle East
4. Further reduced cooperation with China
5. Internal changes to USA bureaucracy.
 
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Skoob

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I choose option 2.
Try something new, like actually resolving the issue through earnest negotiation than playing a game of who can ethnically cleanse who for 8 decades.
Yes, that is easier said in a sentence than done, but no one said it would be easy.
What you're suggesting has been tried for decades and hasn't worked and sounds like some kind of fairytale statement made by people who don't want things to actually change.
And it's funny that you immediately equate a new approach to ethnic cleansing.

I would respect someone more if they just admitted they don't want there to be peace there.
 

danmand

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What you're suggesting has been tried for decades and hasn't worked and sounds like some kind of fairytale statement made by people who don't want things to actually change.
And it's funny that you immediately equate a new approach to ethnic cleansing.

I would respect someone more if they just admitted they don't want there to be peace there.
This reminds me of the Vietnam war: In order to stop the suffering of the Palestinians, we need to eliminate them.
 
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I choose option 2.
Try something new, like actually resolving the issue through earnest negotiation than playing a game of who can ethnically cleanse who for 8 decades.
Yes, that is easier said in a sentence than done, but no one said it would be easy.
describe to me your solution (presumably two state) in which palestinian state would not be hoping to get the entire territory from the river to the sea and would not be shooting rockets into israel even though as an independent state it would be easy to them to get these rockets into their country

be as specific as you can please
 

Skoob

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Trump has waved his arms a lot. But what has he accomplished?

1. Irreparable damage to the relationship with Canada and Mexico
2. Antagonized Denmark and most of Europe in solidarity.
3. Setting the stage for total chaos in Middle East
4. Further reduced cooperation with China
5. Internal changes to USA bureaucracy.
That's a very subjective view that I would expect from the looney left so thanks for living up to everyone's expectations.

Rational people call it sticking to what you campaigned on doing and what most of the voting public wanted.
 

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This reminds me of the Vietnam war: In order to stop the suffering of the Palestinians, we need to eliminate them.
If you're happy with the wars that have raged in that area for decades and the countless deaths then you are entitled to your opinion in keeping things status quo.
 

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yip, thinking out of the box like Trump, I would suggest that all the people of Gaza move into Mar-a-Lago first and than into the rest of Florida.
 

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Trump is assuming reason and pragmatism will in anyway be a factor in Gaza vs Israel when that is completely overwhelmed by a combination of religion, 80 years of hatred, outside forces paying for it to continue, and the ME equivalent of Manifest Destiny.

I have said for years now there isn't going to be a solution, just a winner and a loser. But anyone who picks a side doesn't get a pass, they are now an enemy.

I'm surprised he said what he said, I suppose I shouldn't be. It's essentially the quiet part out loud.
 

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describe to me your solution (presumably two state) in which palestinian state would not be hoping to get the entire territory from the river to the sea and would not be shooting rockets into israel even though as an independent state it would be easy to them to get these rockets into their country

be as specific as you can please
I dont have a solution.
This is up to the Israelis and the Palestinians.
But what I do know is that ethnic cleansing aka crimes against humanity should definitely not be on the table.
I remember reading an essay from Noam Chomsky a long time back (I forget the name), but I distinctly remember reading one particular sentence that stayed with me all these years.
"By accepting the presumption of legitimacy of debate on certain issues, one has already lost one's humanity". (He was talking about Auschwitz if I remember correctly)
This is an example of such an issue.
We should not even discuss it as an option.
 
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