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US supreme court rules Trump has ‘absolute immunity’ for official acts

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US supreme court rules Trump has ‘absolute immunity’ for official acts
Court rules former presidents entitled to some degree of immunity from criminal prosecution

The US supreme court has ruled that former presidents are entitled to some degree of immunity from criminal prosecution, dramatically reducing the likelihood that the federal criminal case against Donald Trump on charges he plotted to stop the transfer of power will proceed before the 2024 election.

The court’s conservative majority – which Trump helped create – found that presidents were protected from prosecution for official actions that extended to the “outer perimeter” of his office, but could face charges for conduct undertaken in a personal or private manner.

Trump is accused of overseeing a sprawling effort to subvert the 2020 election, including two counts of conspiring to obstruct the certification of the election results, conspiring to defraud the government, and conspiring to disenfranchise voters.

Among the accusations: Trump spread false claims of election fraud, plotted to recruit fake slates of electors, pressured US justice department officials to open sham investigations into election fraud, and pressured his vice-president, Mike Pence, to obstruct Congress’s certification of Joe Biden’s win.

The ruling in Trump’s election subversion case was one of the last handed down by the supreme court this term. In waiting until the end, the conservative majority played into Trump’s benefit and legal strategy of trying to delay any trial as much as possible.

The effect of the ruling to block a prompt trial, after the court moved quickly to keep Trump on the ballot in March, has already ignited fierce criticism by liberals and others who believe Trump’s case should be resolved before voters cast their ballots in the forthcoming election.

Trump’s legal strategy for all of his federal criminal cases – he also faces charges in Florida for illegally retaining classified documents – has been to delay them until after the election, in the hope that he will be re-elected and can appoint as attorney general a loyalist who would drop the charges.

As the calendar now stands, a trial in Trump’s election subversion case cannot start until 20 September at the earliest, since Trump’s lawyers have 88 days left on the clock to prepare a defense after the case was automatically frozen when they launched the immunity appeal.

Last October, Trump filed to dismiss the indictment on grounds that he enjoyed absolute immunity from prosecution. After Chutkan denied the motion, Trump moved to challenge her ruling on 8 December at the US court of appeals for the DC circuit.

The appeal carried an automatic stay that froze the trial proceedings, because if Trump won his immunity claim, it would foreclose any prosecution. As a result, the clock counting down to the original trial date of 4 March was paused with 88 days remaining.

Trump’s election subversion case remained frozen as the supreme court considered his immunity claim, after the DC circuit denied the appeal, with the conservative justices showing no urgency to resolve the case at oral argument partly because they appeared to see the case as politically motivated.

As the justices worked through potential tests to delineate between official and private conduct, Justice Amy Coney Barrett suggested the special counsel could always get around the time-consuming process by editing his own indictment and bringing the case on unambiguously private acts.



Another 6-3 SCOTUS decision.

Another Win for Trump; another step in America’s death spiral towards fascist dictatorship. Jack Smith should just withdraw all charges at this point.

If the liberal Supreme Court Justices had any integrity they would step down from their positions and stop acting like SCOTUS is anything other than a fascist rubber-stamp machine.
 
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US supreme court rules Trump has ‘absolute immunity’ for official acts
Court rules former presidents entitled to some degree of immunity from criminal prosecution

The US supreme court has ruled that former presidents are entitled to some degree of immunity from criminal prosecution, dramatically reducing the likelihood that the federal criminal case against Donald Trump on charges he plotted to stop the transfer of power will proceed before the 2024 election.

The court’s conservative majority – which Trump helped create – found that presidents were protected from prosecution for official actions that extended to the “outer perimeter” of his office, but could face charges for conduct undertaken in a personal or private manner.

Trump is accused of overseeing a sprawling effort to subvert the 2020 election, including two counts of conspiring to obstruct the certification of the election results, conspiring to defraud the government, and conspiring to disenfranchise voters.

Among the accusations: Trump spread false claims of election fraud, plotted to recruit fake slates of electors, pressured US justice department officials to open sham investigations into election fraud, and pressured his vice-president, Mike Pence, to obstruct Congress’s certification of Joe Biden’s win.

The ruling in Trump’s election subversion case was one of the last handed down by the supreme court this term. In waiting until the end, the conservative majority played into Trump’s benefit and legal strategy of trying to delay any trial as much as possible.

The effect of the ruling to block a prompt trial, after the court moved quickly to keep Trump on the ballot in March, has already ignited fierce criticism by liberals and others who believe Trump’s case should be resolved before voters cast their ballots in the forthcoming election.

Trump’s legal strategy for all of his federal criminal cases – he also faces charges in Florida for illegally retaining classified documents – has been to delay them until after the election, in the hope that he will be re-elected and can appoint as attorney general a loyalist who would drop the charges.

As the calendar now stands, a trial in Trump’s election subversion case cannot start until 20 September at the earliest, since Trump’s lawyers have 88 days left on the clock to prepare a defense after the case was automatically frozen when they launched the immunity appeal.

Last October, Trump filed to dismiss the indictment on grounds that he enjoyed absolute immunity from prosecution. After Chutkan denied the motion, Trump moved to challenge her ruling on 8 December at the US court of appeals for the DC circuit.

The appeal carried an automatic stay that froze the trial proceedings, because if Trump won his immunity claim, it would foreclose any prosecution. As a result, the clock counting down to the original trial date of 4 March was paused with 88 days remaining.

Trump’s election subversion case remained frozen as the supreme court considered his immunity claim, after the DC circuit denied the appeal, with the conservative justices showing no urgency to resolve the case at oral argument partly because they appeared to see the case as politically motivated.

As the justices worked through potential tests to delineate between official and private conduct, Justice Amy Coney Barrett suggested the special counsel could always get around the time-consuming process by editing his own indictment and bringing the case on unambiguously private acts.



Another 6-3 SCOTUS decision.

Another Win for Trump; another step in America’s death spiral towards fascist dictatorship. Jack Smith should just withdraw all charges at this point.

If the liberal Supreme Court Justices had any integrity they would step down from their positions and stop acting like SCOTUS is anything other than a fascist rubber-stamp machine.
SCOTUS declared homeless people can't stay on public land, corporations rule through killing Chevron and ex presidents have legal immunity if they start coups.

Will Biden respond?

 
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Hallelujah!

Now Trump can actually become The King of Kings and go full Pinochet on his enemies...Putin must be so proud.
 
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SCOTUS declared homeless people can't stay on public land, corporations rule through killing Chevron and ex presidents have legal immunity if they start coups.

Will Biden respond?

Will Biden respond? On this issue? He is currently huddling at Camp David with family members who are urging him to keep fighting. His primary preoccupation is to ensure that the big money bags keep funding his campaign. Heeding his son's advice, who is motivated by self-interest, might be another error in judgement. Would you ask Netanyahu whether a ceasefire is in order?

"One of the strongest voices imploring Mr. Biden to resist pressure to drop out was his son Hunter Biden, whom the president has long leaned on for advice, said one of the people informed about the discussions, who, like others, spoke on condition of anonymity to share internal deliberations "


SCOTUS declared homeless people can't stay on public land, corporations rule through killing Chevron and ex presidents have legal immunity if they start coups.

Will Biden respond?

SCOTUS declared homeless people can't stay on public land, corporations rule through killing Chevron and ex presidents have legal immunity if they start coups.

Will Biden respond?

 
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Jonathan Turley reads through SCOTUS' ruling affirming presidential immunity: "In reading through this opinion, I can't see how this doesn't induce cardiac arrest in the special counsel...The court is imposing a very significant burden on Jack Smith when this goes back to the judge." Boom!
Democracy in America is over.

Dems need to start forming militias and stocking up on guns and ammo.
 
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My statement on the Supreme Court’s historic ruling upholding President Trump’s right To Presidential Immunity: “Today’s Supreme Court decision is a historic victory for President Donald Trump, the Constitution, the rule of law, and the American people. The President of the United States must have immunity, like Members of Congress and federal judges, which is necessary for any presidency to function properly. I look forward to continuing to work with President Trump to ensure his victory and Save America.”
 

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The decision today also reminds citizens that it is more important to get these questions answered right than fast. For all of the criticism of Judge Cannon in Florida for holding hearings and considering arguments, this is why it is important to give serious and sufficient attention to these questions. Judge Chutkan was praised for her speed in supporting Smith's effort to try Trump before the election. She was wrong as was the D.C. Circuit. I do not blame them in an area with good arguments on both sides. However, speed should not be the measure of performance for the courts.
 

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BREAKING: Supreme Court rules 6-3 that Trump has presidential immunity from J6 prosecution Jack Smith has once again been shut down by SCOTUS for being a Democrat hit man Trump is innocent Biden’s political show trial is almost completely neutered And America is stronger for it
Are you excited knowing that Biden has the military behind him and full immunity from any acts he deems to be 'official'?
 

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Are you excited knowing that Biden has the military behind him and full immunity from any acts he deems to be 'official'?
I'm glad that the illegal special counsel Jack Smith and that loser Judge Chutkan, are off the case for awhile.....LMAO
 
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