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US-Russia talks: The rubber finally hits the road

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A partial ceasefire on energy and infrastructure attacks is a preliminary way to cut the Gordian knot

MARK EPISKOPOS
MAR 19, 2025

If the diplomatic overtures of the past several months were seen by some as opaque, then today’s phone call between President Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin cannot be taken as anything but proof positive that the rubber has hit the road on serious, substantive U.S.-Russia negotiations over a Ukraine peace deal.

The White House has been pushing for an all-encompassing ceasefire between Russia and Ukraine as the first step on the long road to a durable settlement. There is an obvious military rationale for doing so: the major battlefield indicators favor Russia, which is slowly overpowering Ukraine in a war of attrition and has just effectively ended the Ukrainian Armed Forces’ (AFU) high-stakes incursion into the Kursk region.

An immediate cessation of hostilities would thus prevent Ukraine’s bargaining position from further deteriorating as talks unfold. But, and precisely for this reason, Putin seeks to shape the terms of a ceasefire in Russia’s favor with stipulations that the agreement must include "the complete cessation of foreign military assistance and provision of intelligence information to Kyiv.”

The partial ceasefire on energy and infrastructure attacks, apparently agreed to by both the Russian and American sides, is a preliminary way to cut the Gordian knot as talks over a full ceasefire proceed in coming days and weeks. The energy-infrastructure truce represents substantial progress, negotiated under what is militarily a difficult situation for Ukraine, in slowly shifting from war onto a de-escalatory trajectory.

Not unimportantly, it is also a source of real succor for Ukraine’s civilian population over three years into what has been the most destructive war on the European continent since 1945.

It should not be lost on anyone that this undeniably positive momentum has been made possible by the White House’s ability — as recommend in a brief authored by me and my colleagues George Beebe and Anatol Lieven — to avoid the trap of treating this as a narrow deconfliction problem and instead demonstrating a willingness to engage Russia in a broader bilateral diplomatic track.

The Trump-Putin discussion extended far beyond Ukraine, touching on a wide spectrum of issues including cooperation in the Middle East, opportunities for economic normalization, nuclear arms control, and even a U.S.-Russia hockey series. This strategy of extending the negotiating table is not only a critical source of confidence-building to ensure compliance with any potential peace deal but gives Washington the leverage needed to mellow some of Russia’s maximalist conditions for ending the war.

Where do we go from here? Much will depend on the coming diplomatic tit-for-tat, but two things can be ascertained at the outset. It is of course crucial to maintain Ukrainian and European buy-in over the course of this process, itself no small task which will require sustained coordination with all the relevant stakeholders.

Secondly, whilst a full ceasefire remains a worthy short-term objective, the overall priority should be to engage Russia in frank, pragmatic dialogue on what the outlines of a final peace settlement can look like. Indeed, Moscow is unlikely to accept the former without a workable roadmap to the latter.

 

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As I understand it, the Poo made Trump wait for 60 minutes, made a series of demands and then bombed Ukraine again, while Europe and Ukraine had no input into the conversation.

It's stupid. Trump is too dumb and weak to handle this and nothing will happen.
 

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As I understand it, the Poo made Trump wait for 60 minutes, made a series of demands and then bombed Ukraine again, while Europe and Ukraine had no input into the conversation.

It's stupid. Trump is too dumb and weak to handle this and nothing will happen.
But they got the "Russia accepts ceasefire" headlines.
 

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As I understand it, the Poo made Trump wait for 60 minutes, made a series of demands and then bombed Ukraine again, while Europe and Ukraine had no input into the conversation.

It's stupid. Trump is too dumb and weak to handle this and nothing will happen.
The deal was for energy infrastructure not a ceasefire. Putin actually had 7 Russian Geran drones that were already launched shot down to respect the deal. Meanwhile Ukraine attacked a Russian oil storage depot right after they were told not to lol. You can expect Russia to continue the attack or even speed it up. Just not on energy infrastructure.
 

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The deal was for energy infrastructure not a ceasefire. Putin actually had 7 Russian Geran drones that were already launched shot down to respect the deal. Meanwhile Ukraine attacked a Russian oil storage depot right after they were told not to lol. You can expect Russia to continue the attack or even speed it up. Just not on energy infrastructure.
Ukraine didn't agree to anything, though.
This is what Putin and Trump said they agreed to.
And Putin then immediately attacked energy infrastructure.

Remember, the agreement for Putin to stop firing on energy infrastructure includes stopping aid and intelligence to Ukraine.
Not surprising Ukraine hasn't agreed yet and why would you expect Putin to not still fire on whatever he wants to fire on while Ukraine hasn't agreed?
 

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Ukraine didn't agree to anything, though.
This is what Putin and Trump said they agreed to.
And Putin then immediately attacked energy infrastructure.

Remember, the agreement for Putin to stop firing on energy infrastructure includes stopping aid and intelligence to Ukraine.
Not surprising Ukraine hasn't agreed yet and why would you expect Putin to not still fire on whatever he wants to fire on while Ukraine hasn't agreed?
Ukraine already agreed to it in Saudi Arabia with the USA.
 
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2 hours talking and the only result was a proposal for US -Russia hockey games!
There is a bright side to things if Trump is going to fail
the peace talk big time.

No one can predict the outcome of the talk at this time. It is not
unthinkable more intense hostilities on the battlefield will erupt
after another 2 months of talking. I presume events unfolding
this way would make Trump-hating folks here as well as warmongers
in Europe happy.
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German intelligence chief Kahl believes Europe would be better off "if the war in Ukraine lasted another five years"

 
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Yes Ukraine agreed and Russia agreed not to target infrastructure then Russia immediately targeted infrastructure.
This is why zelenskyy asks for guarantees. Without it the word of Putin means nothing.
 

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The only guarantee Zelensky can give himself is that EU
will be nowhere as generous in sending Ukraine aid for
rebuilding his country as they were when he was killing
Russian invaders. Nonetheless Zelensky should not worry
about not getting the security guarantee he is looking
forward to. Russia, the U.S. and Europe will be too busy pillaging
a divided Ukraine to recoup money lost in the war. Exploitation
of Ukrainian labours to pay back money lost in the war will
require cooperation of the locals. Hence it is not likely war
will resume if Trump can strike a deal to the satisfaction of
Russia and the U.S.
 

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Ukraine already agreed to it in Saudi Arabia with the USA.
When did this happen?
Ukraine agreed to a 30-day ceasefire.
Putin rejected that and offered this new thing instead, with new conditions.
 

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When did this happen?
Ukraine agreed to a 30-day ceasefire.
Putin rejected that and offered this new thing instead, with new conditions.
Ukraines agreement was unconditional, which means they agreed to any deal the USA agreed to.
 
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When did this happen?
Ukraine agreed to a 30-day ceasefire.
Putin rejected that and offered this new thing instead, with new conditions.
trump had a 2.5 hr phone call with Putin yesterday.
I'm sure we'll hear about the new plan or reasons why Ukraine violated the terms of the deal already, very soon.
 
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