US losing patience with Israel

bazokajoe

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Yes, because they got their ass kicked by a multinational military force enforcing a UNSC Resolution.

If Korea and Kuwait aren't acts of enforcing a UNSC Resolution, what would enforcement look like to you?
Well lets see. Many UN resolutions have been voted on and passed for the purpose of ending pretty much every war since the formation of the UN.
Not a single 1 has been effective. Countries ending a war the moment a resolution is passed would be a good example of enforcement. That has never happened.
 

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As opposed to an apartheid ethnostate that is despised globally, burdens US taxpayers, corrupts their democracy, and wins them nothing but enemies? Yes I do.
LOL. A load of Jew hating rubbish.

Israel is the US's best and strongest ally in the region. That's not going to change anytime soon. Deal with it.
 

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50% of Gaza are children.
Do you want them 'taken out' or protected?
100% of Hamas are vermin who make sure that children get no protection.
 

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Israel is apartheid, not democratic.
Without Biden, Israel is on their own.
Israel is the only democracy in the region. Israel treats ALL OF THEIR CITIZENS equally.

The US needs Israel. It doesn't matter who the president is.
 

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This will stop when Biden tells Netanyahu to stop.
Don't hold your breath. The US just gave then the green light a few days ago.

Just another few weeks, fringie, and the rats will be scurrying from the sewers.

The only difference between surrendering then vs. now is that more Palestinians will die. But you don't care anyways.
 

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Don't hold your breath. The US just gave then the green light a few days ago.

Just another few weeks, fringie, and the rats will be scurrying from the sewers.

The only difference between surrendering then vs. now is that more Palestinians will die. But you don't care anyways.
Palestinians are starving, soon it will look like Auschwitz with carpet bombing on top.
Even Biden has a limit.
 

Frankfooter

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This is a war. A war. Children die in war....on BOTH sides. It's horrible. Because its war. I can't pretend to understand that, but it is the truth.

Israel must destroy Hamas because it is either them or Israel. Hamas began this, but Israel is likely to finish it. Hamas will never surrender, and nor should Israel.

"War is all Hell. The worse it is, the sooner it will be over."....William T. Sherman....
This war has the highest rate of civilian death since WWI. Its intentional.
Hamas is not genocidal, there is no evidence of that, they stated they were attacking in response to settler terrorism, ongoing land theft and the storming of Al Aqsa, all legitimate reasons for armed resistance against an illegal occupation.

Israel is now committing genocide with bombs and food deprivitation.
There is no justification for killing civilians including killing 10,000 children.

 

Frankfooter

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OK then, Sherman's March to Atlanta was also genocidal. He tried to kill all of the Confederate race, including children. Happy?

Hamas is not a race. Muslim and Islam are not races; they are religious beliefs. There is no genocide. You are using the term wrong.

Israel is trying to protect itself against attacks by invaders. The only way it can do that is to destroy the invaders.

Israel does not care what you think and you are not living in Israel.
Zionists are the invaders of Palestine, you have it the wrong way around.
Israel has now wiped Palestine off the maps.

Palestinians self identify as Palestinians, trying to claim they aren't Palestinians is known as cultural genocide.
Depriving all Palestinians in Gaza of food, water, medicine, medical care, housing and power is genocide.
 

Frankfooter

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No, the UN wiped Palestine off the maps. Great Britain owned Palestine before that. Then, there were the Crusades. We are invaders of Canada too, according to the aboriginal populations here.

Before you talk about how Jews are the real problem, maybe you should look inside a history text. There was no PLO when Britain owned Palestine. Why?
No, the brits, through the UN, split Palestine into two, but they didn't wipe it off the maps. That was the zionist occupation.
Stop with this nonsense about 'the Jews', this is about the colonial zionist movement.

There was no PLO when Britain ruled because the Palestinians backed the brits through WWII as they had promised them their state.
But they reneged on the deal so that Churchill, who was also quite racist, could send Jewish refugees there instead of throughout Europe.

None of it is important now, all that matters is that zionism has lead to genocide and it must be stopped.

 

Frankfooter

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Basically the day after Israel was formed, the Arabs attacked it. They didn't negotiate. They openly attacked Israel. Israel defended itself and won: three times. This is the fourth time that Israel will defend itself.

Yes, the UN and UK formed Israel. I don't deny that. It was unfair to Palestine. I don't deny that either.

We occupied aboriginal lands in Canada and the US. Maybe we should give that land back like Israel should to the Palestinians. What do you say?
That's the Israeli side of the story, the Palestinian side notes that there were zionist calls for all of eretz Israel from 'river to sea' before partition, Jewish terrorist attack before partition and they say the zionists started it.

Regardless, Israel has wiped Palestine off the maps and is now trying to push Palestinians into the sea or into Egypt, or just wipe them out entirely.

Landback is a movement here, you should know and there are still multiple treaty negotiations ongoing. Its a process that is still seeking to redress past injustices. Israel needs a truth and reconciliation thing after they stop trying to kill everyone.

Even recent history is nuts.
 

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Basically the day after Israel was formed, the Arabs attacked it. They didn't negotiate. They openly attacked Israel. Israel defended itself and won: three times. This is the fourth time that Israel will defend itself.
According to some people here who have been defending Israel, Israel couldn't have existed yet because they didn't have a president and weren't printing their own currency. So Israel couldn't have been attacked because it didn't exist. That's also one of the arguments the Arab states used as their cause belli: they said Israel's declaration of Independence was unlawful and an act of war, and they were just putting down a rebellion. They wanted to end the idea of a Jewish state before it could start.

That's nonsense, of course. I don't believe that for a second, but it's worth pointing out the ridiculousness of that argument both when it's used to justify the First Arab-Israeli war and the current situation.

Yes, the UN and UK formed Israel. I don't deny that.
You should deny that. It's untrue and actually takes away from Israel's strength of will. Israel was formed by Israelis. They declared independence all on their own. The UK pledged to support an Israeli state, not create one, and the UN passed a resolution to partition Palestine and create the Israeli state, but that UN plan was never implemented. Israel unilaterally declared independence, no different than the USA did, nor any different from how Palestine did it.

We occupied aboriginal lands in Canada and the US. Maybe we should give that land back like Israel should to the Palestinians. What do you say?
All First Nations persons in Canada are entitled to both Canadian and First Nations citizenship. The majority of Palestinians (and other Arabs) who have Israeli citizenship are happy with their situation. The problem is that Israel won't give all Palestinians citizenship because they want to keep a Jewish majority. Incidentally, this limiting of "immigration" to preserve a majority was one of the very things that led Zionists before Israel's founding to engage in terrorism. Clearly Israel understands the position that Palestinians are in, because when faced with the same problem they also resorted to terrorism.

So yes, if Canada was going to term First Nations that they couldn't have Canadian citizenship, Canada should give land that's occupied illegally back. But then, we not only give First Nations citizenship, but we also have a law that requires us to return land when they prove their land claims in court. That system is far from perfect and largely broken for various reasons, but the citizenship part is the key that many these two situations different.
 
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