US Customs sucks

great bear

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Esco! said:
The worst is to have a name like Abdul or Ahmed, be slightly tanned and carry a Yemeni passport.
If you have a Yemeni passport could you say yemini may vary?
 

danmand

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Doubt that it aplies to people.....:confused:
Anyone know the truth?
It applies to some professional consulting.
 

Juldet

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Free Trade does not allow you to enter US

For one thing you can be excluded from the US for being gay, having AIDS etc... here is a Supreme Court Case in 1967. There are a million reasons that they can "exclude" you from the US and Free Trade has no effect on the Immigration and Nationality Act ...also known as title 8

Here is the Act see how many reasons they can refuse to admit you.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode08/usc_sec_08_00001182----000-.html

Immigration and Nationality Act (8 USC)
Argued March 14, 1967.
Decided May 22, 1967.



Petitioner, an alien who at the time of his entry into the United States was a homosexual, held excludable under 212 (a) (4) of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952, as one "afflicted with [a] psychopathic personality," a term which Congress clearly intended to include homosexuals. Pp. 120-125.

363 F.2d 488, affirmed.
 

danmand

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Well, of course, anybody who has ever looked at Terb may be excluded because of reasonable risk the person will engage in illegal procurement of prostitution.
That does not change the fact that the free trade agreement include provisions for professional consultants to enter the US for assignments.
 
Juldet said:
For one thing you can be excluded from the US for being gay, having AIDS etc... here is a Supreme Court Case in 1967. There a million reasons that they can "exclude" you from the US and Free Trade has no effect on the Immigration and Nationality Act ...also known as title 8

Here is the Act see how many reasons they can refuse to admit you.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode08/usc_sec_08_00001182----000-.html

Immigration and Nationality Act (8 USC)
Argued March 14, 1967.
Decided May 22, 19



Petitioner, an alien who at the time of his entry into the United States was a homosexual, held excludable under 212 (a) (4) of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952, as one "afflicted with [a] psychopathic personality," a term which Congress clearly intended to include homosexuals. Pp. 120-125.

363 F.2d 488, affirmed.
Thank You! Now, sounds like if you want to visit, you have to play nice.
No right to enter for Canadians.
 

Juldet

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You are right Danmand but...

Well, of course, anybody who has ever looked at Terb may be excluded. That does not change the fact that the free trade agreement include provisions for professional consultants to enter the US for assignments.

I hear you Danmand, you have the right to work there ...as long as you are admissable and not subject to exclusion under Title 8
 

danmand

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Juldet said:
I hear you Danmand, you have the right to work there ...as long as you are admissable and not subject to exclusion under Title 8
The year is off to a good start, we are both correct.
 

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Juldet said:
Well, of course, anybody who has ever looked at Terb may be excluded. That does not change the fact that the free trade agreement include provisions for professional consultants to enter the US for assignments.

I hear you Danmand, you have the right to work there ...as long as you are admissable and not subject to exclusion under Title 8

Or the customs and immigration officer is a jerk and simply decides to exclude you.
 

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Everytime I read threads like this, I laugh. There's more to this story than was posted. For example, if you are traveling with two passports, would be that stupid to tell the immigration officer? Probably.
 

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rama putri said:
Everytime I read threads like this, I laugh. There's more to this story than was posted. For example, if you are traveling with two passports, would be that stupid to tell the immigration officer? Probably.
Is more then a little stupid. Andf if they find the second one in a search you are locked out.
 
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It can be rough for us to enter Canada sometimes. My worst times:

Trip to Niagara Falls: 3 interviews, a car search, a pat-down, and some phone calls, courtesy of Canada Customs

Trip to Montreal: Made the mistake of flying home to Reagan National instead of BWI. No problems from Canada or US customs, but Canadian airport security was following instructions to a T. Check-ins were x-rayed AND hand-searched, even my box of disposable contacts. Carry-on was x-rayed. Got to gate for D.C. flight, it was segregated from the rest of the airport with boarded up windows. A Quebec cop and a Montreal cop guard the entrance; you show them your boarding pass. Once you get in, carry-ons are hand searched and your body is patted down and wanded. Finally sit down to wait for my flight, and a 2nd Montreal cop stares at the passengers, looking for suspicious behavior.

Alexa, will you be touring D.C. anytime soon? :D
 

Esco!

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rama putri said:
Everytime I read threads like this, I laugh. There's more to this story than was posted. For example, if you are traveling with two passports, would be that stupid to tell the immigration officer? Probably.
papasmerf said:
Is more then a little stupid. Andf if they find the second one in a search you are locked out.
Last time I checked there are no rules for carrying 2 passports while traveling.
Many people have dual citizenship and they find it easier to enter multiple countries with 2 separate passports.

As long as they are both valid there should be no problem
 

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Yes legal to have 2 passports...

Yes it is legal to have 2 passports, IF YOUR A DUAL CITIZEN. I used my american one to make things easier but explained I was dual, he called another one and asked me what I was bringing in and where I was going, I played semi stupid and said I was going on a trip and explained the big savings by leaving from us ect ect. they checked my bags and found clothes, and party favors and then they just told me to wait while the validated my sphincter or checked my papers or whatever. The first asshole left and his butt-buddy took over. I was already there over 4 hours and he told me I would have to cool off and wait? for what I said I am a citizen, he told me they have to check to make sure I was reallly one? WTF. I travel abroad 20-30 times per year and never had a single problem till now, then before I left the 2nd officer told me to goto the other bridge and just show my canadian ID and they would probably let me over? I was so frustrated I just wanted to forget the whole trip altogether. Oh well it was just a rant, any ladies wanna comfort a immigrant down on his luck.:p
 

tboy

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All I can say is YIPPEEE they are doing their jobs!

Just remember one thing: They are looking for things out of the ordinary....anything, could be the way you dress, talk ANYTHING.

Both US and Canadian Customs and Immigration can detain you for any reason, so don't give them one!

Sure you can travel with 2 passports, BUT that makes you out of the ordinary and shines a big bright 1,000,000 watt spotlight on you.....

As for going to one crossover point, failing and going to another? You WILL MOST LIKELY BE ARRESTED. They keep track of you, whether you make it across or not....

Remember: You are a guest in THEIR country, whether you are just passing through or not.....

I was crossing Windsor after 9/11 and got pulled aside because I had some graphics with me for a trade show I was attending. I was in there talking to the guys when this guy walks in all bluff and bluster and starts talking back to the agents, yelling I'M AN AMERICAN CITIZEN, the customs agent says: SO FUCKING WHAT, SO AM I and unless you treat me with a little respect, and PROOVE you're who you say you are, YOU won't be going ANYWHERE except somewhere in HANDCUFFS. (he didn't have ANY ID on him, no driver's licence, nothing, the friggin TWIT).
 
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