You rely on 3 or 4 "sources", Klatty. None of which is the least reliable.
UNWRA Report Out….Confirms that Israel is POS Nation
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Klatty, there was ample evidence that many UNWRA teachers were HAMAS members and taught jihad against Israel and that UNWRA employeed participated in 7 October.You can’t unwind these facts. Another in an endless list of Israeli lies…POS Nation
Israel has not complained about an UNWRA employee since 2011. You read that right. 2011.
“An independent review conducted for the United Nations into the neutrality of its agency helping Palestinian refugees found that Israel never expressed concern about anyone on the staff lists it has received annually since 2011.”
Israel did not express concerns about UNRWA staff before attack: report - National | Globalnews.ca
Israel said UNRWA employees took part in the Hamas attack. A UN panel has stated "Israel has yet to provide supporting evidence of this.”globalnews.ca
Yes, its an Israeli talking point that has no basis in reality, meant to hide the famine from the MSM and Israeli press.
The UN, World Food Program, UNRWA, Oxfam, Amnesty and others all have noted that Gaza is now in an intentional famine.
No, there is zero evidence that anyone in the UNRWA was doing anything like that.
The only 'evidence' Israel gave was confessions gained through the torture of UNRWA workers.
They provided nothing else for evidence.
Israel has already killed 180 UNRWA workers.
Once Israel deliberately targeted and killed workers from one of my favourite people's (Jose Andres) organization "World Central Kitchen", they went wayyyyy down in terms of my respect.
The organization had pre-arranged and coordinated the movement with the IDF yet the fucking cocksucking IDF soldiers decided that maybe they were not real humanitarian workers in that clearly marked. I think it was an armoured vehicle. One of them was a fucking Canadian citizen! I think that Hamas is a fucking horrific terrorist organization. And I get that Israel needs to defend itself...but yeah, thay are smarter, better equipped and yet still act no better than the fucking Hamas vermin.
At least Israel admitted it was a "grave mistake".
Misleading indeed.
The peace accords between Israel and Egypt/Jordan require the latter nations to guarantee security along the borders for Israel. As evidenced by Jordan intercepting Iranian drones/missiles within its territory on behalf of Israel, likewise Egypt blocking the Gaza/Egypt border on behest of Israel. For, Egypt to allow Gazans in, it will play into Israel's and will be a one-way trip never to return to their lands. Egypt will then be forced to accept the millions of Gazans permanently.
Moreover, the influx of Gazans crossing into Israel for work is not solely due to goodwill from Israel but rather for economic dynamics, akin to the recruitment of seasonal workers on Canadian farms for cheap labor.
Yup, it is what Israel wants. Push the Gazans into the Sinai and steal their lands.
The IDF shot 3 ISRAELI HOSTAGES, who stripped down to their underwear, raised their hands over their heads and came out with a makeshift white flag. The rules of war state that even if it is your enemy, surrendering fighters should not be killed, and if done so, it is a war crime. These were Israelis. Go figure. They dont even know who they are shooting at. The most moral army in the world, my ass.
Anyway, that is just the tip of the iceberg. There are so many other videos and documented evidence of atrocious and outrageous behaviour by the IDF just in this war that you'd be surprised that the fucking Russians are better behaved in Ukraine, than the IDF in Gaza.
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When Israel investigates themselves, releases videos and other evidence, it is all lies. When UNRWA investigates themselves and claims they found nothing, it must be true because...you know...Jews.Nice try. The "Independent Report" is a sad, corrupt joke.
Exposed: UNRWA’s Rigged “Independent” Review - UN Watch
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Interesting. Google must be in on it because they show Egypt and Gaza sharing a border. They must be hiding the secret Israel occupation of part of Egypt.
Just another case where you can't hold Arabs accountable for their choices when there's Jews to blame. Egypt hates Hamas for their own reasons. You keep claiming that Jews subjugated America but now you claim they also control Egypt?
It wasn't a 'grave mistake', schlong. If you followed that one you'd have noted that the 7 people killed were travelling in 3 different cars in a convoy and they were tracked and killed over a span of 2km. Israel knew who they were, used their super hi tech intel and tracked and killed them all intentionally.
The only real question is who entered their names into 'Lavender', their AI killing bot. Israel has created the world's first active Skynet type network of AI controlled drones that are assassinating people in Gaza. That sounds fucking crazy and it is.
‘Lavender’: The AI machine directing Israel’s bombing spree in Gaza
The Israeli army has marked tens of thousands of Gazans as suspects for assassination, using an AI targeting system with little human oversight and a permissive policy for casualties, +972 and Local Call reveal.
www.972mag.com
There isn't much 'intelligence' going into the AI though. It has only one command basically - "Kill anyone not IDF in the Gaza strip".It wasn't a 'grave mistake', schlong. If you followed that one you'd have noted that the 7 people killed were travelling in 3 different cars in a convoy and they were tracked and killed over a span of 2km. Israel knew who they were, used their super hi tech intel and tracked and killed them all intentionally.
The only real question is who entered their names into 'Lavender', their AI killing bot. Israel has created the world's first active Skynet type network of AI controlled drones that are assassinating people in Gaza. That sounds fucking crazy and it is.
‘Lavender’: The AI machine directing Israel’s bombing spree in Gaza
The Israeli army has marked tens of thousands of Gazans as suspects for assassination, using an AI targeting system with little human oversight and a permissive policy for casualties, +972 and Local Call reveal.
That wasn't the UNRWA investigating themselves, basketcase. You need to do better with your lies.
That's not like Biden saying he wants Israel to investigate the mass graves they keep finding at hospitals.
That's messed up.
All males, actually.There isn't much 'intelligence' going into the AI though. It has only one command basically - "Kill anyone not IDF in the Gaza strip".
Not even just males of fighting age, all males.
The category of what constitutes relevant features of a target can be set as stringently or as loosely as is desired. In the case of Lavender, it seems one of the key equations was “male equals militant”.
You think that IDF as an entity or a soldier deliberately targetted and killed World Central Kitchen workers on purpose? Not saying they didn't but what would the logic be? Simply that they must be bad simplty for feeding Palestinians?It wasn't a 'grave mistake', schlong. If you followed that one you'd have noted that the 7 people killed were travelling in 3 different cars in a convoy and they were tracked and killed over a span of 2km. Israel knew who they were, used their super hi tech intel and tracked and killed them all intentionally.
The only real question is who entered their names into 'Lavender', their AI killing bot. Israel has created the world's first active Skynet type network of AI controlled drones that are assassinating people in Gaza. That sounds fucking crazy and it is.
‘Lavender’: The AI machine directing Israel’s bombing spree in Gaza
The Israeli army has marked tens of thousands of Gazans as suspects for assassination, using an AI targeting system with little human oversight and a permissive policy for casualties, +972 and Local Call reveal.
First, you don't track three cars in a convoy with the WCK emblem on the roof over 2km and target them super accurately by accident. Look at the missile hits that are within inches of the logos and tell me it was an accident or they didn't know what they were targeting.
Start with that as a given.
Next, lets discuss the second element of the campaign for genocide in Gaza.
1) Bomb as many as you can get away with before Biden freaks out
2) Starve them and stop the media reporting
3) Destroy all hospitals and health care
Israel blew up every single bakery in Gaza, they destroyed every UNRWA warehouse for food. They blocked all aid at the Rafah border from getting through. Israel tortured 7 UNRWA workers and used confessions they gained in a global campaign to cut all funding for the UNRWA, the largest supplier of food and aid to Gaza. After the UNRWA, WCK became one of the larger aid groups still delivering food.
All those things happened, I can give you links and evidence if you want. Its very much intentional.
Did they kill the WCK workers because they were feeding Gaza? Occam's Razer.
There needs to be an investigation, but as the UN Rapporteur recently said, there is evidence for trials that will last decades after this stops and the WCK killings were just one minor event during a 200 day genocide.
Aside from the other factors, this is the part that brings it home to me.
11) What this tell us is that the IDF will kill an almost unlimited or undefined number of civilians in order to potentially kill one Hamas member of unspecific rank or commitment
12) While we know that this is more or less how Israel operates, it also likely that they they are providing a cover story to hide a deliberate targeted attack on
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I watched and still watch anything with or about Jose. he is such an authentic, compelling man.
I time-started tgis ckip... have a listen and see if yu are not moved
jose Andres' "Made in Spain" PBS series, been to many of his restaurants. have met him briefly and watch a lot of his interviews etc.
This man is a hero to me.
One thing he said about this attack was that he regrets founding WCK because these friends would still be alive today.
Like I say, its part of a pattern, it wasn't a single 'accident'.
180 UNRWA aid workers have also been killed.
Over the last few days hundreds and hundreds of bodies have been dug up from mass graves in the hospitals that the IDF attacked, including finding bodies wearing scrubs with their hands bound.
Every single university has been destroyed, Gaza had a 97% literacy rate, higher than Israel, now they've been targeting profs as well.
The WCK killings may have affected you because you know someone. Try talking to a Palestinian here, everyone I've talked to has had family killed.
Its intentional.
Doctors Without Borders physician says Israeli systemically targeting healthcare workers in Gaza
Dr. Tanya Haj-Hassan, a paediatric intensive care physician who works with Doctors Without Borders, told Sky News repeating Israeli claims that attacks on hospitals are strategic targeting of Hamas is...
www.middleeastmonitor.com
Israel kills dozens of academics, destroys every university in the Gaza Strip [EN/AR] - occupied Palestinian territory
News and Press Release in Arabic on occupied Palestinian territory about Education; published on 20 Jan 2024 by Euro-Med Monitor
The thing is it is not about killing Hamas. That is the narrative they use. But in reality they consider ALL Palestinians as not just Hamas, but as enemies.
It is basically collective punishment. The Israeli mentality is that if you kill 1 of us, we will kill 20 or 30 of yours, destroy your houses, schools, hospitals, places of worship, stop aid, cut off food, water and electricity, and destroy you. Make no mistake, this sort of treatment of people is only possible, when you consider the Palestinians sub-human. I have many Israeli friends who are otherwise very good people. But when it comes to the Palestinians, I have heard all kinds of dehumanizing bullshit. I particularly remember one of them saying that he had a solution for the issue with Gaza and when I probed further, just said - "Nuke them". I brushed it off as hyperbole back then (this was back in 2006), but after I started educating myself about the conflict more and more, I have come to realize that this is the Israeli mentality.
Here is Rami Igra former Mossad chief on Anderson Cooper:
Then Israeli president Isaac Herzog:
'No Innocent Civilians in Gaza', Israel President Says as Northern Gaza Struggles to Flee Israeli Bombs
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has vowed to
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Like I say, its part of a pattern, it wasn't a single 'accident'.
180 UNRWA aid workers have also been killed.
Over the last few days hundreds and hundreds of bodies have been dug up from mass graves in the hospitals that the IDF attacked, including finding bodies wearing scrubs with their hands bound.
Every single university has been destroyed, Gaza had a 97% literacy rate, higher than Israel, now they've been targeting profs as well.
The WCK killings may have affected you because you know someone. Try talking to a Palestinian here, everyone I've talked to has had family killed.
Its intentional.
Doctors Without Borders physician says Israeli systemically targeting healthcare workers in Gaza
Dr. Tanya Haj-Hassan, a paediatric intensive care physician who works with Doctors Without Borders, told Sky News repeating Israeli claims that attacks on hospitals are strategic targeting of Hamas is...
Israel kills dozens of academics, destroys every university in the Gaza Strip [EN/AR] - occupied Palestinian territory
News and Press Release in Arabic on occupied Palestinian territory about Education; published on 20 Jan 2024 by Euro-Med Monitorreliefweb.int
It's sickening indeed.
I'm vascillating.. a pox on both their houses?
Actually he is a very, very intelligent man.
Once again, your favourite tactic when you are unable debate a point because the facts are against you is to declare "those fact are irrelevant" or "that's not what's important", "that should be disregarded". You have to admit that you've predictably used this tactic of dismissing things out of hand dozens of times.
Instead of trying to be dismissive of what he says and shooting the messenger, try using facts to disprove his message. It would be much more effective He coolly and calmly completely counters every lie his opponent tries to get away with. His debaters invariably are reduced to having to use ad hominem attacks. The best was when he totally embarrassed the raging lunatic Cenk Uygur. Cenk's veins were popping and his eyes bulging as he got more and more frustrated calling Murray a racist while the relaxed Murray just sat back and took notes.
A very, very smart man indeed. Disregarding what he has to say is simply burying one's head in the sand and admitting defeat.
