Unbelievable experience!!

stinkynuts

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Today I was getting some groceries on Lawrence Avenue. As I walked out, I saw a man in a wheelchair, on the edge of the street, trying to make his way up it. He yelled, "Push me! Push me!" and started to point to the road ahead. I went up to him, and told him to get off the road, as there was no way I would be pushing him down oncoming traffic. I was worried about his safety, and felt sorry for the guy. I then tried to push him up the sidewalk, but he was very heavy, and was not cooperating.

I then told him that I would take him down the street in my car. I led him to the passenger side, and he took my thermos that was lying on the seat and flung it to car floor. It took a long time for me to get his massive body inside the car, and I folded his dirty wheelchair and put it in the trunk. "Where are you from? China" he asked when he got in the car. I am Canadian of Asian descent, and found this question offensive. He seemed to be mocking me because of my background.

He then told me to go to Tim Hortons. I did, and it seemed like he was getting his money ready. When I asked him what he wanted, he told me to pay with a $20 and give him the change. It was then I realized that this guy was not just some unfortunate guy in a wheelchair, but rather a homeless man. I didn't want to take out my wallet, as it has a lot of money in it, and I didn't want him to see the bills. Instead, I took out a bunch of change from my pocket (about $10 worth). The man then demanded that I give him all of the change. I hesitated, but I was worried that if I refused, he might get violent. So I handed it over to him, and paid for the coffee.

The man grabbed a pillow that was in my backseat, and asked me if he could have it. I refused, and really didn't like him touching it. He then reached behind and grabbed a bottled water, but it was frozen, so he threw it back.

When I dropped him off, I felt very relieved. Despite his behaviour, I felt bad for him, and took out a $10 bill, and offered it to him. "No, give me $20!" he demanded. I was shocked. I refused, of course, and then put the ten dollar bill back into my wallet. He then changed his mind, and asked for it, but I went into my car. He then yelled at me, "Push me! Push me!"

I wanted to get the hell away from him, and I almost got into a car accident because I was so upset. I drove away very shaken from the experience. Never have I experienced anything like this before with a homeless man. A week ago, I gave a homeless man $20 and he was very appreciative.

This man treated me like a personal slave, and acted as if $10 was an insult. I helped him into my car, put away his filthy wheelchair, got him a coffee, gave him $10 in change, drove him to where he wanted, and offered him $10, but instead of being grateful, he was very unappreciative, and even ordered me to push him around.

I know this is not typical, but it does make me wonder if I will be so helpful next time I see someone like that. :(
 

jcpro

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This experience should not influence your future acts of kindness. Just remember that you're doing what you're doing because of the kind of person you are, regardless of the recipient. Kindness without pity is my preffered approach. Of course nobody likes being taken for a ride.
 

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I applaud your instinct to do good acts. Seriously. No snark here. Please don't let one incident with a person that has obvious issues (I'm guessing a laundry list of mental illnesses) squash that instinct. Remind yourself how fucking unlikely it is that someone that is being THAT much of an asshole is going to get any help of any sort, and know that however awful the experience was, however ungrateful the surly bastard you helped was, you did something good that a rare few people would do. ...and maybe don't invite the next homeless guy you help out into your car :D
 

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This experience should not influence your future acts of kindness. Just remember that you're doing what you're doing because of the kind of person you are, regardless of the recipient. Kindness without pity is my preffered approach. Of course nobody likes being taken for a ride.
This ^^^^^^
 

asuran

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Just be yourself, but from this experience you will probably learn to assess these people better and make decisions based on that.

There are many reasons that a person is homeless, some due to their situations, some due to their bad choices in life and some just because they are darn stupid.
As in everything there are good people and there are bad and annoying people.

Assess, evaluate, trust your instincts and experiences. In the end what you did was a good thing.
 

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I am going to take a different view of this entire event.

You helped an overweight man in a wheelchair and you offered him a lift in your car. He offered him change in your wallet, and he wanted all of it. Then you felt 'sorry' for him and offered him $10, and he wanted $20. You also bought him a coffee. You also worried that he might get violent. AND he stole your pillow. ARE YOU NUTS? Kick him out of your car! If he gets violent, slap him. What is wrong with you? Are us men now a bunch of wimps? You offered him a coffee, and some change. Then he gets rude, I would take the money back, throw out the coffee, kick him to the curb and then throw out the wheelchair. I am sorry if I sound arther harsh, but you have to stand up for your self. This guy is overweight, in a wheelchair and homeless.
 

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I am going to take a different view of this entire event.

You helped an overweight man in a wheelchair and you offered him a lift in your car. He offered him change in your wallet, and he wanted all of it. Then you felt 'sorry' for him and offered him $10, and he wanted $20. You also bought him a coffee. You also worried that he might get violent. AND he stole your pillow. ARE YOU NUTS? Kick him out of your car! If he gets violent, slap him. What is wrong with you? Are us men now a bunch of wimps? You offered him a coffee, and some change. Then he gets rude, I would take the money back, throw out the coffee, kick him to the curb and then throw out the wheelchair. I am sorry if I sound arther harsh, but you have to stand up for your self. This guy is overweight, in a wheelchair and homeless.
So if he was skinny, but in a wheelchair and homeless, that would be ok? :confused:

You, Sir, sound awfully anti-pudge
 

nobody123

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So if he was skinny, but in a wheelchair and homeless, that would be ok? :confused:

You, Sir, sound awfully anti-pudge
Maybe the big tough klingon's point was that he could probably take him in a fight, so why not get rough with him? Or summin.
 

GPIDEAL

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Pretty sure that guy is a regular in that area.
I was going to say that maybe that's the homeless man's M.O. for survival. Even though he can be difficult, it still is sad. Good on the O.P. to risk and brave generosity.
 

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I am a fairly generous sort of mild, mannered guy, and am constantly dishing out money here and there for one cause,or fundraiser, or other such event. No problem

I am however very vigilant about optimizing my odds for longevity, and would under no circumstances invite anyone of either gender into my car, ever. Just simply too much potential for some sort of rolling shit show to go down. At the very least however, I will roll down my window, and if indeed ,someone is experiencing some sort of threat to their personal safety, I would have no problem calling 911 for them and hanging nearby until help arrives. Same applies when passing stranded motorists on the freeways. Pulling over, stopping and getting out of your car could be the total end of you, as it is for some,most every winter
 
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Ceiling Cat

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Many homeless are experienced in pushing the right buttons to exploit your good will. Know this for the next time you meet up with one of these beggar/homeless people. Some also have mental problems and letting him in your car could have been a big mistake. He may have robbed you or injured or killed you.

A few years ago I was in a store buying groceries, a very tall shabby man was yelling into a pay phone that he needed help and he was demanding to speak to Major ( xxxxxx ). Seeing that he was in distress and that he may be ex-military ( as I am ) I offered to help. He told me that he needed to get to a certain location where this Major was immediately. I offered him money to take the bus but he needed to get there as quickly as he could. He demanded $60 for a taxi and additional money to take care of a problem. Now I was suspicious. I questioned him about this Major and he changed his story and told me that it was a Major in the Salvation Army. He was not ex-military and was not suffering from PTSD as I first thought. He needed a drink and had the shakes. He probably would have taken the money to get a bottle and maybe found frozen to death outside the next morning. Sometimes being kind could harm them. Even getting away from this guy after his scam was discovered was not easy.

Never let a stranger into your car, all it takes is a quick thrust to turn things tragic.
 

Aardvark154

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Wow, sorry to hear this. You attempt to act as we all should and get this back in return. That stinks!
 

asuran

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I am going to take a different view of this entire event.

You helped an overweight man in a wheelchair and you offered him a lift in your car. He offered him change in your wallet, and he wanted all of it. Then you felt 'sorry' for him and offered him $10, and he wanted $20. You also bought him a coffee. You also worried that he might get violent. AND he stole your pillow. ARE YOU NUTS? Kick him out of your car! If he gets violent, slap him. What is wrong with you? Are us men now a bunch of wimps? You offered him a coffee, and some change. Then he gets rude, I would take the money back, throw out the coffee, kick him to the curb and then throw out the wheelchair. I am sorry if I sound arther harsh, but you have to stand up for your self. This guy is overweight, in a wheelchair and homeless.
And if some passersby whip out their phones and records it from a distance and then post it on youtube with caption 'guy abusing the homeless'. That would've caused more trouble wouldn't it? Plus hours and hours of explaining.
 

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What do you want? a gold medal?....true altruistic acts are anonymous.....don't look for affirmation...do it cause you care , not to be noticed
 

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bahahahahaha
i cant believe there are people out there who are so out of touch with reality
 

GPIDEAL

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I am a fairly generous sort of mild, mannered guy, and am constantly dishing out money here and there for one cause,or fundraiser, or other such event. No problem

I am however very vigilant about optimizing my odds for longevity, and would under no circumstances invite anyone of either gender into my car, ever. Just simply too much potential for some sort of rolling shit show to go down. At the very least however, I will roll down my window, and if indeed ,someone is experiencing some sort of threat to their personal safety, I would have no problem calling 911 for them and hanging nearby until help arrives. Same applies when passing stranded motorists on the freeways. Pulling over, stopping and getting out of your car could be the total end of you, as it is for some,most every winter

OTOH, this is true too, and also what Ceiling Cat says as well.

I recall a homeless person who killed a guy with a brick in the Jane-Lawrence area after he had an altercation with that passerby when he was looking for a handout.

I have my own story. Once, a woman standing in the shadows outside an ATM startled me when she said hello.

It was a cool night and I asked her if she was ok. She just said she needed a taxi to get home. I asked her where she lived, and it wasn't that far. So I drove her to an apartment building about a KM + away. When I dropped her off, I gave her a $50 (she looked frail). She thanked me profusely, and wondered why I didn't ask her for a blow job. I chuckled and said 'No, I'm good thank you'. Just said good night and she left quietly.

There have been times where nut cases asked me for money with a little hostility in their voices, and I just ignored and got away from them, so you have to be careful.
 

GPIDEAL

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What do you want? a gold medal?....true altruistic acts are anonymous.....don't look for affirmation...do it cause you care , not to be noticed
He might have if not for the unbelievable experience he had to endure. Guess it's like a warning.
 

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You're a good man for wanting to help but always proceed with caution.

Firstly, physically challenged people don't want to be helped most of the time. Secondly, you're putting him in your car, too many bad connotations there. Then you leave him alone in the car when you went to get coffee. Your sympathy clouded your smarts, my man.
 

GPIDEAL

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You're a good man for wanting to help but always proceed with caution.

Firstly, physically challenged people don't want to be helped most of the time. Secondly, you're putting him in your car, too many bad connotations there. Then you leave him alone in the car when you went to get coffee. Your sympathy clouded your smarts, my man.
It's a lesson to be learned by all. Thanks.
 
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