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[PeteOsborne]

Found a DD-214 with release date of 1974, bottom of form look similar?

The picture he provided is of a members copy which is the original of the document, hence the MC after 214 and the S/N on it.

 

[Valcazar]

Found a DD-214 with release date of 1974, bottom of form look similar?

The picture he provided is of a members copy which is the original of the document, hence the MC after 214 and the S/N on it.

Bottom right isn't quite spaced the same way, though, but that may also be due to it being a different copy.

 

[Combat dog]

Bottom right isn't quite spaced the same way, though, but that may also be due to it being a different copy.

You people that rely on the government think the government functions as designed? It was the form I received at Camp Pendleton. I took it and boarded the first plane out of SanDiego.

 

[DinkleMouse]

You people that rely on the government think the government functions as designed? It was the form I received at Camp Pendleton. I took it and boarded the first plane out of SanDiego.

Everyone with a modicum of time in any western military knows you cannot avoid the bureaucracy. The number of forms that have to be filled out in duplicate or triplicate for routine things is staggering. If a form was hand-written, it might be a few months out of date as the pile of old forms gets used. Back in the 80s, if a form was updated, it might take a few weeks for someone to get to each orderly room with a floppy disk to update them.

But you released after 2010 by your own admission. The intranet updates forms instantly. Within hours of them being updated, every paper pusher has the new copy because they're disseminated electronically. You'd know this if you had served as an officer because a large part of any officer's job is paperwork.

You're not just trying to tell us they're using the old form, you're trying to tell us they used the form that's 6-7 amendments old? I've never played it, so I'll just guess that Call of Duty didn't cover paperwork and so you didn't realize how laughable your argument is. No veteran would except your explanation. The bureaucracy is the most efficient part of any western military: as in it makes sure nothing else is.

But hey, maybe we're all wrong. In which case you can just post your DD214 since you said you would be ok with it being posted and we can all take a look. Your call, Stolen Valour.

Edit: How many Marines would have released from Pendleton since 1980? It's gotta be hundreds of thousands. There's no way that happens without sometime noticing it's the wrong form 30+ years and 5+ updates later.

 

[Combat dog]

Everyone with a modicum of time in any western military knows you cannot avoid the bureaucracy. The number of forms that have to be filled out in duplicate or triplicate for routine things is staggering. If a form was hand-written, it might be a few months out of date as the pile of old forms gets used. Back in the 80s, if a form was updated, it might take a few weeks for someone to get to each orderly room with a floppy disk to update them.

But you released after 2010 by your own admission. The intranet updates forms instantly. Within hours of them being updated, every paper pusher has the new copy because they're disseminated electronically. You'd know this if you had served as an officer because a large part of any officer's job is paperwork.

You're not just trying to tell us they're using the old form, you're trying to tell us they used the form that's 6-7 amendments old? I've never played it, so I'll just guess that Call of Duty didn't cover paperwork and so you didn't realize how laughable your argument is. No veteran would except your explanation. The bureaucracy is the most efficient part of any western military: as in it makes sure nothing else is.

But hey, maybe we're all wrong. In which case you can just post your DD214 since you said you would be ok with it being posted and we can all take a look. Your call, Stolen Valour.

Edit: How many Marines would have released from Pendleton since 1980? It's gotta be hundreds of thousands. There's no way that happens without sometime noticing it's the wrong form 30+ years and 5+ updates later.

I have a hypothetical question, if I posted it and the form indicated I received two silver stars, three bronze stars and two purple hearts and a presidential citation, would you say it is a fraud? What if it indicated I served in Iraq, Afghanistan, and several other war-torn countries that were not in the news, would you say it is a fraud?
Although I am not trying to convince anyone, there is nothing I could post that would placate a bunch of Canadian cowards that use the Internet to obtain what they believe to be accurate information. Now go play video games and molest Asian women, after all, that is what Canadians do.

 

[Combat dog]

I have a hypothetical question, if I posted it and the form indicated I received two silver stars, three bronze stars and two purple hearts and a presidential citation, would you say it is a fraud? What if it indicated I served in Iraq, Afghanistan, and several other war-torn countries that were not in the news, would you say it is a fraud?
Although I am not trying to convince anyone, there is nothing I could post that would placate a bunch of Canadian cowards that use the Internet to obtain what they believe to be accurate information. Now go play video games and molest Asian women, after all, that is what Canadians do.

Now I am finished with this thread, but before I go, I hope you made your mother proud

 

[krealtarron]

Now I am finished with this thread, but before I go, I hope you made your mother proud

You were finished before you even started

 

[DinkleMouse]

I have a hypothetical question, if I posted it and the form indicated I received two silver stars, three bronze stars and two purple hearts and a presidential citation, would you say it is a fraud? What if it indicated I served in Iraq, Afghanistan, and several other war-torn countries that were not in the news, would you say it is a fraud?

No. I look forward to seeing it, along with dates that aren't from the 70s.

Although I am not trying to convince anyone, there is nothing I could post that would placate a bunch of Canadian cowards that use the Internet to obtain what they believe to be accurate information. Now go play video games and molest Asian women, after all, that is what Canadians do.

Sure. You're Stolen Valour but we're the cowards. If you say so. Unlike you, plenty of Canadians did serve and continue to serve. Unlike you, plenty of Canadians fought in wars.

You got off your parting insults, berating an entire society, and I hope they made you feel like a big, tough, war hero. But just because you leave this thread doesn't mean we're going to stop thinking "Stolen Valour" everytime we see your name.

 

[Combat dog]

No. I look forward to seeing it, along with dates that aren't from the 70s.



Sure. You're Stolen Valour but we're the cowards. If you say so. Unlike you, plenty of Canadians did serve and continue to serve. Unlike you, plenty of Canadians fought in wars.

You got off your parting insults, berating an entire society, and I hope they made you feel like a big, tough, war hero. But just because you leave this thread doesn't mean we're going to stop thinking "Stolen Valour" everytime we see your name.

Wait, before I go, can a Canadian coward describe the type of paper used for a DD214? That will send google into overdrive!
Also, for clarification, if this was a forum originated in Israel, I would be compelled to post my 214! Israelis are Warfighters, Canadians are cowards that stand behind the United States. what is hilarious, not one person that challenged me could post their own 214…..I’m not surprised! I guess like they say, you are what you eat….pussy!

 

[squeezer]

Now I am finished with this thread, but before I go, I hope you made your mother proud

You even lie about being finished, WTF DUDE????

Wait, before I go, can a Canadian coward describe the type of paper used for a DD214? That will send google into overdrive!
Also, for clarification, if this was a forum originated in Israel, I would be compelled to post my 214! Israelis are Warfighters, Canadians are cowards that stand behind the United States. what is hilarious, not one person that challenged me could post their own 214…..I’m not surprised! I guess like they say, you are what you eat….pussy!

 

[DinkleMouse]

Wait, before I go, can a Canadian coward describe the type of paper used for a DD214? That will send google into overdrive!

It would only send Google into overdrive if anyone cared. Why do you keep asking these trivia questions? What do you think they prove? No one else is claiming to be a US veteran, only you.

You gonna post it, Stolen Valour, or not?

Also, for clarification, if this was a forum originated in Israel, I would be compelled to post my 214! Israelis are Warfighters, Canadians are cowards that stand behind the United States.

You keep repeating that. Do you see anybody crying? Nobody cares what a fake hero thinks.

Imagine a 5'4" scrawny teenager, weighing 120lbs, walks up to Mike Tyson and says he thinks Mike Tyson is a coward. Does Mike Tyson beat the shit out of him? Nope, he laughs and walks away. That's the stance we're all taking here, because we don't care what you think. Oddly enough, that's not the stance you're taking. You're stance is to start swinging because you're tiny ego can't handle it.

But hey, there's only one swing you need to take... So how about it? You going to post your DD214 now, Stolen Valour?

what is hilarious, not one person that challenged me could post their own 214…..I’m not surprised! I guess like they say, you are what you eat….pussy!

Your opinion is irrelevant to me and everyone else. We don't care if you think we're pussies. That's the difference: you obviously do care what we think. You crave the validation of us believing you. But we don't, Stolen Valour. If you're really going to convince anyone, you're going to have to post your DD214.

 

[Combat dog]

It would only send Google into overdrive if anyone cared. Why do you keep asking these trivia questions? What do you think they prove? No one else is claiming to be a US veteran, only you.

You gonna post it, Stolen Valour, or not?



You keep repeating that. Do you see anybody crying? Nobody cares what a fake hero thinks.

Imagine a 5'4" scrawny teenager, weighing 120lbs, walks up to Mike Tyson and says he thinks Mike Tyson is a coward. Does Mike Tyson beat the shit out of him? Nope, he laughs and walks away. That's the stance we're all taking here, because we don't care what you think. Oddly enough, that's not the stance you're taking. You're stance is to start swinging because you're tiny ego can't handle it.

But hey, there's only one swing you need to take... So how about it? You going to post your DD214 now, Stolen Valour?



Your opinion is irrelevant to me and everyone else. We don't care if you think we're pussies. That's the difference: you obviously do care what we think. You crave the validation of us believing you. But we don't, Stolen Valour. If you're really going to convince anyone, you're going to have to post your DD214.

As they say on TV, that’s not all! I keep checking this thread in the hope that one person can at least say they were in combat…..crickets. Now this next part is hilarious. There are three RCMP that monitor this exchange and all are laughing their asses off. We are sitting in a pub laughing!!! As one said, “I’m embarrassed on behalf of the Canadian people”! I told him, I am embarrassed for you! Dude, this is impossible to make up. Now, time to drink with men that have balls and not write on a stupid forum to people that only can google shit. Take care mates!

 

[DinkleMouse]

As they say on TV, that’s not all! I keep checking this thread in the hope that one person can at least say they were in combat…..crickets.

People who actually were in combat don't brag about it, because it turns out combat is a hellish nightmare that they don't want to relive. That's why bragging about it is the first sign of Stolen Valour.

Now this next part is hilarious.

It sure was, thanks for the laugh!

There are three RCMP that monitor this exchange and all are laughing their asses off. We are sitting in a pub laughing!!! As one said, “I’m embarrassed on behalf of the Canadian people”! I told him, I am embarrassed for you! Dude, this is impossible to make up.

Wait, are they laughing, or are they embarrassed?

What a coincidence. I'm sitting in a pub right now with the Secretary of the Navy, the US Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, and the Commandant of the Marine Corps, and they're following this thread too talking about how embarrassed they are because of the ridiculous Stolen Valour in it!

Now, time to drink with men that have balls and not write on a stupid forum to people that only can google shit. Take care mates!

The forum that you're writing on, you mean? You're saying you don't have balls either since that what you do? You showed them where you called all Canadians cowards and pussies, and you showed these law enforcement officers where you said human trafficking was legal in Canada, and they took your side? Ok.

Wait, I didn't think teenagers could drink. Did you steal you dad's ID too when you stole his DD214?

No one believes your, Stolen Valour. Not about your sniper kills, not about your being the MSOR/MRR commander, not about drinking beer with RCMP who are "embarrassed". Some of us think less and less that you're even an adult.

You going to post your dad's DD214 yet, Stolen Valour?

 

[Valcazar]

I have a hypothetical question, if I posted it and the form indicated I received two silver stars, three bronze stars and two purple hearts and a presidential citation, would you say it is a fraud? What if it indicated I served in Iraq, Afghanistan, and several other war-torn countries that were not in the news, would you say it is a fraud?

Given that is coming from you, probably yes.

Or maybe someone might look at that specific list of honours and have reason to suspect it is a fraud for other reasons.

 

[Valcazar]

What a coincidence. I'm sitting in a pub right now with the Secretary of the Navy, the US Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, and the Commandant of the Marine Corps, and they're following this thread too talking about how embarrassed they are because of the ridiculous Stolen Valour in it!

That's so weird!!
I'm sitting in a Japanese/Ethiopian fusion restaurant with Jeanne d'Arc, Triệu Thị Trinh , and Zenobia and they think this entire thread is an embarrassment to men who claim to be warriors.

 

[krealtarron]

As they say on TV, that’s not all! I keep checking this thread in the hope that one person can at least say they were in combat…..crickets. Now this next part is hilarious. There are three RCMP that monitor this exchange and all are laughing their asses off. We are sitting in a pub laughing!!! As one said, “I’m embarrassed on behalf of the Canadian people”! I told him, I am embarrassed for you! Dude, this is impossible to make up. Now, time to drink with men that have balls and not write on a stupid forum to people that only can google shit. Take care mates!

So you think prostitution is human trafficking. Yet you are in a bar, showing law enforcement officers that you are a punter? Like think it through. Make it make sense.

 

[NotADcotor]

I have a hypothetical question, if I posted it and the form indicated I received two silver stars, three bronze stars and two purple hearts and a presidential citation, would you say it is a fraud? What if it indicated I served in Iraq, Afghanistan, and several other war-torn countries that were not in the news, would you say it is a fraud?
Although I am not trying to convince anyone, there is nothing I could post that would placate a bunch of Canadian cowards that use the Internet to obtain what they believe to be accurate information. Now go play video games and molest Asian women, after all, that is what Canadians do.

Well considering your story just can't be true, I'd assume a photoshop or similar effort.
I mean if I had some form saying I was the king of Spain, [but now I eat humble pie] would you believe it.

Also the part in bold is a flat out lie. You have been trying ever so hard to convince us that your lies are true even though by know you must know it's not possible as you have been found out.
Also even if we were cowards, that doesn't mean we can't see though your lies.
I suspect whatshisface has other non internet sources of information. You contradict yourself. ALso what you post just doesn't past the smell test. You don't post like an adult, like someone who has reached a responsible position such as a regimental commander. One doesn't need the fucking internet to see that. At best you sound like someone who "might" have served a few years, got out and failed on civie street and is now all bitter, or perhaps the Yank equivalent of a corporal for life, someone who got their automatic promotion in year 3 and never moved up since. A fucking Colonel. No freaken way.
And there you go with the video game bullshit. If you were in the military, you would no that none of the stuff whatshisface is beating you with came from some video game.

 

[NotADcotor]

Now I am finished with this thread, but before I go, I hope you made your mother proud

You lied about not caring what we think, based on your posting history.
You lied about your military service
I'll take another lie for 200 Alex.

And it was.

 

[NotADcotor]

Imagine a 5'4" scrawny teenager, weighing 120lbs, walks up to Mike Tyson and says he thinks Mike Tyson is a coward. Does Mike Tyson beat the shit out of him? Nope, he laughs and walks away. That's the stance we're all taking here, because we don't care what you think. Oddly enough, that's not the stance you're taking. You're stance is to start swinging because you're tiny ego can't handle it

This really old hobbit went into a bar, walked up to a very brutal looking Ogre [even by Ogre standards] and called him a big fat cunt. [To be fair he was]. The ogre beat the crap out of him and threw him out.
Old hobbit comes back, insults ogre, takes another savage beats, gets tossed out.
This happens 5 more times and the ogre asks the bartender why the old hobbit doesn't just give up.
Bartenders replies "well old hobbits are hard to kill"
hobbit and habit sounding much alike you see.

 

[NotADcotor]

There are three RCMP that monitor this exchange and all are laughing their asses off. We are sitting in a pub laughing!!! As one said, “I’m embarrassed on behalf of the Canadian people”! I told him, I am embarrassed for you! Dude, this is impossible to make up. Now, time to drink with men that have balls and not write on a stupid forum to people that only can google shit. Take care mates!

Does he really think this would do anything but confirm to EVERYONE here that he is full of shit. I mean seriously.
He has to be trolling, he can't seriously think anyone would be convinced by this. And to think I got a perma ban on merb for basically nothing.