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Like I said - if NATO and the US provide support to India to repel an invasion by China, you will support China and say that NATO and the US are at fault for provoking and extending the war.
Hopefully we will never find out if I am right, but I have a great deal of confidence in this position, based on everything you have said.
If it was a similar situation where India suddenly became a puppet state of the west, allowed the US to meddle in their elections, and start a war with China, then yes you could make that argument. But this is not a logical example for you to bring up because this goes against everything that India is as a non-aligned state.

This is a statement of pure faith on your part.
As you know, the US is allowed to use Indian bases (just like it did in Ukraine).
There have been calls for India to give the US a base of its own there.
They have been steadily aligning their military forces for the last 20 years, even more so since about 2016.

This belief of yours that under no circumstances would India ever accept help from the US in the face of attack seems to not be very well founded.
No, the US is not allowed to use Indian military bases. They may request docking or something but that is up to the Indian govt to allow it. There have been calls yes, but India has refused. Generally speaking do not forget that India does not trust the west. They have a trusted long standing stable relations with Russia, and about 50% of their military equipment is from Russia. They will never allow the US a base there and shoot themselves in the foot.

And yes, India will never accept western assistance or meddling. They have actually showed in the past, when they were weaker that they wont stand for it, so they wont today. It is their official policy, not a statement of faith.

Also do not forget. India will never let "white men" have a military base, or meddle in their affairs, after their colonial history. Talking to many many Indians, it is my understanding that this is at the core of their nationalism and patriotic identity.

Even with backward shit that happens in India such as valentine's day attacks on couples, you know why that happens? Because it is western culture and not Indian culture. Of course these are done by fringe Hindu nationalists (I say fringe because not all Hindu nationalists are bad), but remember it is a Hindu nationalist govt in power right now. So military bases, "aid", or any sort of alignment with the west that fundamentally takes away from their "Indianness" or their sovereignty is a huge no no in their country.

Yes, we are all aware that you need to assert this to try and square the moral circle for yourself.
India really wants to keep itself as a power in a multi-polar world. There's no doubt about that.
But if push comes to shove, India will accept help it needs when it needs it.
Just like every other country will.

And you, I am confident, will condemn it if that aid comes from the West.
Because at that point it will have "abandoned its sovereignty" by picking the wrong side in a crisis.
India will ask for transfer of technology and weapons. What India wont accept is military aid the way they give Ukraine. Firstly they dont trust the west, especially the US. Heck I think over 10 years ago, they even turned down regular humanitarian aid from the UK and called it "peanuts". But again, these are implausible scenarios that go against the very nature of India as a non aligned state. Not going to happen.

So what?
You are convinced the US and Russia are going to go to WW3 even though they haven't resorted to war ever.
India and China have had a shooting war far more recently.
You have no reason whatsoever to believe that India/China will never go to invasions other than it is convenient for you to believe so.
There is something seriously wrong with you if you think that the Ukraine war does not have the potential to escalate into nuclear war. Unlikely, yes. More reasonable minds will prevail, am sure. But there is an objective path to nukes being used here. China and India may have had skirmishes and wars, but the amount of restraint those two countries have shown is commendable.

Until the US supports India with military hardware and support to resist the invasion.
At which point you will change sides.
As I said, wont happen. India is a non-aligned state. I have no problems with weapon sales. The kind of "aid" given to Ukraine in a proxy war is not comparable to the military sales that the US will possibly make to India.
 
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you have a better chance to get your washer or dryer change their mind
A washer or dryer has a better chance at changing my mind, than getting you to make an intelligent comment. 😜
 
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KIEV REGIME TO BAN FILMING OF MASS GRAVES IN AN ATTEMPT TO HIDE HEAVY LOSSES


The Kiev regime carefully hides its losses suffered during the military operations in the Donbas. Amid the ongoing heavy fighting and the daily deaths of hundreds of Ukrainian servicemen, Ukrainian lawmakers proposed to ban filming and photographing cemeteries and mass graves.

The Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine has received a bill that prohibits photo and video filming of cemeteries and mass graves of fallen servicemen. Information about military graves should be declared a state secret. It is reported that the bill will be considered in May.

According to Ukrainian lawmakers, such footage can provide the army of the Russian Federation with “valuable intelligence information, as well as contribute to the spread of a negative information background within the country itself.”
Heavy losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are not a secret for the Russian military, while the real figures may be a big surprise for the Ukrainian population.

This is not the first attempt to ban the filming of mass graves in Ukraine. Similar initiatives have been proposed by local Ukrainian authorities, as well as by Zelensky’s office. However, despite all the attempts of the Ukrainian authorities to hide the harsh truth, hundreds of photos and videos are spread online showing large cemeteries that are growing in all regions of Ukraine.

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A full day pushing Russian propaganda on terb. Almost like someone was paying you to post.
Just another mindless comment dump as usual. I guess 7 to 8PM is your terb patrol. And yes, Putin paid me to push Russian propaganda to the 5 guys who post on the politics forum of the Toronto escort review board.
 
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Ukraine War: Zelensky Embezzled $400 Million Allocated By The US For Purchasing Fuel – Seymour Hersh

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ByEurAsian Times Desk

April 12, 2023

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky embezzled hundreds of millions of dollars that the US allocated for the purchase of fuel, according to Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh.
In his blog, Hersh writes – The Ukraine government, headed by Volodymyr Zelensky, has been using American taxpayers’ funds to pay dearly for the vitally needed diesel fuel that is keeping the Ukrainian army on the move in its war with Russia.
It is unknown how much the Zalensky government is paying per gallon for the fuel, but the Pentagon was paying as much as $400 per gallon to transport gasoline from a port in Pakistan, via truck or parachute, into Afghanistan during the decades-long American war there.
The issue of corruption was directly raised with Zelensky in a meeting last January in Kyiv with CIA Director William Burns. His message to the Ukrainian president, I was told by an intelligence official with direct knowledge of the meeting, was out of a 1950s mob movie.
The senior generals and government officials in Kyiv were angry at what they saw as Zelensky’s greed, so Burns told the Ukrainian president because “he was taking a larger share of the skim money than was going to the generals.”
Burns also presented Zelensky with a list of thirty-five generals and senior officials whose corruption was known to the CIA and others in the American government. Zelensky responded to the American pressure ten days later by publicly dismissing ten of the most ostentatious officials on the list and doing little else.
“The ten he got rid of were brazenly bragging about the money they had—driving around Kyiv in their new Mercedes,” the intelligence official told me.

Meanwhile, Hersh, citing an intelligence official, said that the sabotage of the Nord Stream pipelines and lack of strategic planning with regard to Ukraine had caused a growing rift between the White House and the US intelligence community.


“There is a total breakdown between the White House leadership and the intelligence community,” the intelligence official was quoted by Hersh as saying.

The alleged rift dates back to the covert operation last fall to blow up Russia’s Nord Stream pipelines, a move that was purportedly ordered by President Joe Biden.
“Destroying the Nord Stream pipelines was never discussed, or even known in advance, by the community,” the official said.
Another issue dividing the Biden administration and the intelligence community is the lack of planning on Ukraine. The official highlighted Biden’s decision to deploy two brigades a few miles from the Ukrainian border in response to Russia’s special military operation.
The actual manpower of the 101st and 82nd airborne divisions could total more than 20,000, but there is still “no evidence that any senior official in the White House really knows what’s going on in” the brigades, the intelligence officials told Hersh.
“Are they there as part of a NATO exercise or to serve with NATO combat units if the West decides to engage Russian units inside Ukraine? Are they there to train or to be a trigger? The rules of engagement say they can’t attack Russians unless our boys are getting attacked,” the official said.
The official said that while the White House lacks clarity on its policy in Ukraine, the Pentagon is somewhat optimistically preparing for an end to the conflict. Two months ago, the US Joint Chiefs tasked members of the staff with drafting an end-of-war treaty to present to the Russians “after their defeat on the Ukraine battlefield,” Hersh said, citing a source.
But it remains unclear what will happen if the Pentagon’s scenario goes wrong and Ukrainian forces fail on the battlefield: Will the two American brigades deployed close to the war zone “join forces with NATO troops and face off with the Russian army inside Ukraine?” Hersh asks.
 

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Kyiv to name street for Ukrainian Nazi collaborator after public vote
A street in Kyiv will soon bear the name of Volodymyr Kubiyovych, one of the founders of the Waffen-SS Galizien, the Ukraine branch of the Nazi military force.
By SHIRA SILKOFF

Published: APRIL 11, 2023 10:26



The Kyiv City Council may be set to name a street after a Nazi collaborator and SS official, the director of the Ukrainian Jewish Committee, Eduard Dolinsky has reported.


According to Dolinsky, a street in the Ukrainian capital will be renamed following a motion passed by the city council, and will bear the name of Volodymyr Kubiyovych, who during the Holocaust was heavily involved in the formation of the Waffen-SS Galizien, a Nazi military force made up of Ukrainian volunteers.


Speaking to The Jerusalem Post, Dolinsky explained that a historical expert commission within the Kyiv City Council had put forward several options for the renaming of what is currently Przhevalsky Street in Kyiv.







The names suggested by the historical commission were then put forward by the city council for a public vote on the Kyiv Digital app, where voting will remain open until April 16.


The option to rename the street after Volodymyr Kubiyovych has so far received a majority, with 31% of the vote, with the second and third highest options receiving just 18% and 10% respectively.



A Nazi-era propaganda poster from the Waffen SS Galicia, founded with the help of Volodymyr Kubiyovych. (credit: Wikimedia Commons)

renaming the street after Kubiyovych.


Who was Volodymyr Kubiyovych?
Prior to the start of the Holocaust, Kubiyovych was a strong supporter of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN-M) and in April 1941, he requested the creation of an autonomous state within Ukraine in which Poles and Jews would not be allowed to live.



Later in the war, in 1943, Kubiyovych took on a key role in the formation of the Waffen-SS Galizien and publicly announced his willingness to take up arms and fight for the Nazi cause.


After the Red Army approached Poland in 1944, Kubiyovych fled to Germany, and then France after the Nazi surrender. In France, he served as the editor-in-chief of the Encyclopedia of Ukrainian Studies, the largest academic project taken on by Ukrainian expats during the Cold War.


The Encyclopedia of Ukrainian Studies was reflective of Kubiyovych's nationalistic views and was intended to preserve Ukraine's heritage under Soviet rule.


Kubiyovych's airbrushed legacy
Today, the encyclopedia exists online, both in its native language and in English and is still frequently updated with articles focusing on Ukrainian heritage and culture.


The Internet Encyclopedia of Ukraine avoids mentioning Kubiyovych's Nazi past, instead focusing on his work pre and post-World War Two, saying only that: "During the Second World War he headed the Ukrainian Central Committee (UCC) in Cracow and in 1943 took part in organizing the Division Galizien."


Kubiyovych died in Paris in 1985, and to this day is recognized by many as a prominent and important Ukrainian scholar, and his works continue to be widely circulated, despite his Nazi past.


Should a road in Kyiv indeed be named after him, it will not be the first time that Ukraine has chosen to honor Kubiyovych. In 2000, a pre-stamped envelope was issued by the Ukrainian postal service in honor of the 100th anniversary of his birth, and in the Ukrainian city of Lviv, a plaque honoring the Nazi official still stands to this day.

PS. Look forward to hearing Zelenskys ( “himself so call a Jewor a Nazi sympathizer) explanation for this!
 
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Would it be fair to say that American foreign policy is at the root of your anger relating to your positions on Russia's invasion of Ukraine?
Yes. But dont interpret it as some sort of irrational anger or defacto hatred for them. I hold them primarily responsible in this case and also because they objectively haven't had a morally defensible position since WW 2.
 
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...and that as being reported by the -snicker-snicker :ROFLMAO:Hindustan Times!

You can't make this shit up! Comedy Gold!
Since when is reporting something wrong. I am not a Trump fan obviously but it was something related to Ukraine, so I posted it.
 

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Will depleted funds put an end to Russia's war in Ukraine?


No. Russia have no debt! War will be over by this late summer or Autumn this year. Ukraine will run out of amino and they already running out of Soviets built SAM to defend their Ukrainian air space. When they run out of missile for Air defence then Russia have control of the sky.
They are losing tens of thousands of Ukrainian soldiers upwards of 400,000 dead Ukrainian soldiers. Not substantiable. So faster they ukraine lose this war… then then real peace talk can begin good for every citizens of the world to prevent a nuclear holocaust.

PS. All it take is one mistake to escalate , and then it becomes a poker mentality everyone doubles up and bluff and don’t back down. We can have a start nuclear war … that not good!
 
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I don't know how soon Russian funds will be depleted. But
I think it is more likely horribly high gas prices will put an end
to European aid for Ukraine. On second though envy for the
cheap energy prices enjoyed by India and China may do the
job as well.
 
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My position then was anti-American foreign policy. My position today is anti-American foreign policy. The only consistent position is mine and for the right reasons. Reasons have been expanded on many times.
In translation. Thinking is for queerfags fuck that shit. I just rely on my hate to inform my opinions, fuck reality, facts and logic, the US is always wrong because I don't like them.

Sooth. Oh wait, he used a larger font and in bold. Well then, that settles it.
 

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Cool.
What replaces it?
Or do you honestly think there will be no alliances in a Post-NATO world?
Well Alliances are OK in his world as long as they are Russian or Chinese led. Don't forget he hates US policy, it is always wrong at all times because he said so.
Protecting Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Europe what a bunch of evil jerks. [I said sarcastically.]
 

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Putin cannot give back Donbas and stay in power. Simple as that. If Russia loses Donbas Putin loses his throne and likely his life or at least freedom. So there goes that brilliant idea.
What if they turn him into a zombie, [Ironic consideirng the Z fetish they have] then he could lose his life and his freedom. Huh, huh!
 
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