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Trump's most loyal supporters in Congress are calling for an immediate halt to US support for Ukraine
Thu, February 9, 2023 at 2:59 PM EST
Matt Gaetz



Reps. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia, left, Matt Gaetz of Florida, center, and Lauren Boebert of Colorado listen during the 15th round of votes in the House chamber as the chamber entered the fifth day trying to elect a speaker and convene the 118th Congress in Washington, DC, on Saturday, January 7, 2023.AP Photo/Alex Brandon


  • Eleven House Republicans have backed a measure calling for an immediate halt of US aid to Ukraine.
  • The measure is backed by Reps. Matt Gaetz, Lauren Boebert, and Marjorie Taylor Greene.
  • A recent poll found nearly two-thirds of American support continued aid to Ukraine.
A group of House Republicans is calling for an immediate halt of US aid in Ukraine, arguing that such support for the country's defense in the face of Russia's invasion is "inadvertently contributing to civilian casualties."

A non-binding resolution introduced Thursday would, if passed, express the sense of Congress that the US "must end its military and financial aid to Ukraine." It further "urges all combatants to reach a peace agreement."

The measure's 11 backers include some of Congress' most vocal and far-right supporters of former President Donald Trump, including Reps. Lauren Boebert of Colorado and Paul Gosar of Arizona. Although the group represents a minority opinion within Congress, and even within the GOP, its members could jeopardizefuture aid packages in the House, where any lawmaker can force a vote to oust Speaker Kevin McCarthy.

The introduction of the measure comes as Moscow is launching a new offensive in eastern Ukraine, committing "at least three major Russian divisions," according to a new assessment by researchers with the Institute for the Study of War.

A recent Gallup poll found that nearly two-thirds of Americans believe the US should continue to support Ukraine in its fight against Russia, even if that means prolonging the conflict. However, that support is weakest among Republicans, 41% of whom stated they support ending the conflict "quickly," even if that means territorial gains for Russia.

Justifying the measure, Rep. Matt Gaetz of Florida distorted a quote from President Joe Biden. According to Gaetz, "Biden must have forgotten his prediction from March 2022, suggesting that arming Ukraine with military equipment will escalate the conflict to 'World War III.'"

Trump made that claim earlier this month but Biden made no such warning.

Speaking in Philadelphia, Biden in fact defended his policy of arming Ukraine. "We're going to make sure Ukraine has the weapons to defend themselves from the invading Russian forces," he said. In his remarks, the president thrice mentioned World War III," each time in the context of noting that direct US or NATO intervention would trigger it. "We will not fight the third World War in Ukraine," he said.

Asked for clarification on the congressman's remarks, Joel Valdez, a spokesperson for Gaetz, provided a truncated quote from Biden that omitted key context. "Biden in March 2022 said: "…the idea that we're going to send in offensive equipment and have planes and tanks and trains…that's called 'World War Three,'" Valdez responded in an email, emphasizing the world "tanks."

The missing part of the quote makes clear that Biden's warning was not about the threat posed by sending weapons to Ukraine — the US announced its sending tanks last month, stepping up its aid to Ukraine — but about "planes and tanks and trains going in with American pilots and American crews."

Opposition to US aid for Ukraine on the right has been increasingly vocal in recent months, led by Trump, who has repeatedly asserted that he would be able to end the conflict through negotiations. "Get this cray war ended, NOW. So easy to do," he posted on Truth Social last month.

In 2019, Trump withheld US military aid to Ukraine, pressuring President Volodymyr Zelenskky in a phone call to open an investigation into the Biden family and asking him to look into a conspiracy theory that it was Ukrainians, not the Russian government, that hacked and stole emails from the Democratic National Committee. That incident led to Trump's second impeachment and, on the right, sowed distrust of Ukraine and its link to the Democrats.

Ironically, Biden's refusal to commit US forces to a war with Russia was previously the subject of criticism for at least one Republican who is now calling for an end to US support for Ukraine altogether.

"It's no surprise to anyone that Putin invaded Ukraine," Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene wrote on Twitter last February on the day of the large-scale invasion. "Biden gave him the green light by saying the US is not going to war with Russia and will remain united with and only defend its NATO member nation allies. Ukraine was not allowed to join NATO."

One month before the invasion, by contrast, Greene had called for Biden's impeachment, citing his "threatening war with nuclear Russia." With the immediate shock of Russia's invasion now in the distant past, she has returned to the rhetoric of isolationism.

"For me, it's America First all the way and we're not doing anything about our own southern border," she told Insider. "Why are we protecting the border of another country?"

Have a news tip? Email this reporter: cdavis@insider.com

Read the original article on Business Insider
 
Arguing contrarians like these simpleton attention whores demonstrate their lack of intelligence and wisdom. Worse is that they got elected and there are many who fall for their cult schtick.
 
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Send MTG, Gaetz and Bobo on a fact finding mission to Ukraine. Maybe they could be swapped with the Russians for POWs...
 
What a load of baloney cartoon . That the best the leftie looney tune here at terb keep recycling this garbage. Fact are Donald Trump heavily armed and train the Ukraine with U.S. military aid. He ok it and allowed it. Two Steele Dossier pissgate is proven fake!
 
What a load of baloney cartoon . That the best the leftie looney tune here at terb keep recycling this garbage. Fact are Donald Trump heavily armed and train the Ukraine with U.S. military aid. He ok it and allowed it. Two Steele Dossier pissgate is proven fake!

Sure, fancy bear.
 
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Trump's most loyal supporters in Congress are fucking power-hungry Nazis.....

Get rid of them.....quickly.....
 
Fact are Donald Trump heavily armed and train the Ukraine with U.S. military aid. He ok it and allowed it.
and was impeached for not allowing it
 
What a load of baloney cartoon . That the best the leftie looney tune here at terb keep recycling this garbage. Fact are Donald Trump heavily armed and train the Ukraine with U.S. military aid. He ok it and allowed it. Two Steele Dossier pissgate is proven fake!

 
All I see is.

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People who don't know history need to shut their pie holes.
That being said, if Biden had any fresh tasty brains he would be shoving surplus gear out the door as fast as possible, if not to Ukraine right away then at least to Poland, they can be counted on to send it to Ukraine when they are trained up to use it. Also Ukraine can haz all the training, as much as possible.
Just in case the next elections turn out badly, it's always better to be safe than sorry. Also this dripping gear is just extending the misery, it's time to shit or shit, ramp up production and get Ukraine everything it needs to win ASAP.

Well, there goes no fap February.
 
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Not the first time foreign spy agencies kill people too that represents a threat to their own country interests in name of National Security . Look at foreign agencies that kill other people too. Libya or Iraq innocent plebs … like all those millions of IRAQ‘s children got starved and died because of the fake IRAQ WMD narrative or President Bush decision on the CIA narrative propaganda intelligence .

That what all countries do if that person represents a threat to one’s Nation Security interests they used their spy agency to kill people. Nothing new here! AS COMPARED to killing millions of innocent children plebs in IRAQ or any countries < insert any foreign country spy agencies here>!
 
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Hmmm… Video clip in summer …. you can see the green tree leaf. Definitely not in the cold seasons. Why the fuck do are terbite we listening or supporting a coke head? My prediction the CIA will kill him or Zelensky own General will kill him when he no longer useful to them or need a patsy.
 
Hmmm… Video clip in summer …. you can see the green tree leaf. Definitely not in the cold seasons. Why the fuck do are terbite we listening or supporting a coke head? My prediction the CIA will kill him or Zelensky own General will kill him when he no longer useful to them or need a patsy.

Has to be coke.
Can't be covid or allergies or a cold.

So says Vlad, so it must be.
 
A Message to the World From Inside a Russian Prison

Soon it’ll be a year since the start of the war that the Kremlin unleashed against Ukraine. It has taken thousands of human lives, destroyed entire cities, and turned millions of families into refugees. Vladimir Putin, as the one responsible for this tragedy, has become a true symbol of evil, cursed around the world. But it also seems that, more and more often, the Russian people are treated as enemies. The main claim against the Russians: You did not resist the aggressive policies of your government, and that makes you accomplices to crimes of war.
My name is Ilya Yashin, a Russian opposition politician, whom the Kremlin has kept in prison since the middle of last summer. I’ve been sentenced to 8.5 years of incarceration, because I publicly spoke out against the war in Ukraine. But today I want to say a few words in defense of my nation.

First: We did resist. Since the start of the war and throughout 2022, the police in Russia arrested almost 20,000 opponents of the war. According to human rights groups, protests have taken place almost every day in different cities since February 24, 2022, and only 18 of those days have passed without arrests and detentions. Against this background, we have seen astonishing examples of civil courage. For instance, Vladimir Rumyantsev, a provincial fireman, got three years in prison for building a ham radio to broadcast reports against the war, while Alexei Gorinov, a member of the Moscow city council, got seven years after he called for a minute of silence during a meeting of that chamber to honor the Ukrainian children who had been killed.

Second: People are fleeing from Putin. In the past year, around 700,000 citizenshave left Russia. The majority of them have emigrated, not wanting to be involved in military aggression. I want to draw attention to the fact that this is twice as many people left the country than were drafted into the army. Sure, you could probably blame those who chose to escape instead of choosing the path of resistance, prison, and torture. But the fact is that hundreds of thousands of my countrymen left their homes behind, having refused to become killers on the orders of the government.

Third: Those who remain in Russia are living with the rights of hostages. Many of them don’t support the war, but they remain silent, afraid of repressions. But the silence of a hostage who has a terrorist’s gun to his head does not make him an accomplice to the terrorist.

I want to appeal to the wisdom of the international community. Do not demean the Russians, as that kind of rhetoric will only strengthen Putin’s power. By shifting the blame for war crimes from the Kremlin junta onto my fellow citizens, you are easing the Putin regime’s moral and political burden. You are giving him a chance to hide from the just accusations of people who have in essence become a human shield in this situation. I see that as a serious mistake.

Putin has brought enormous suffering to the Ukrainian people. But with this barbaric war he is also killing my country—Russia. I believe that Russians can become allies of the free world in resisting this tyrant. Just extend a hand to my fellow citizens.

-Ilya Yashin

Detention Center No. 1, Udmurtiya, Russia

 
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