U.S. Mid-terms
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I think it’s the hypocrisy that’s why people are bringing up her past.
I don't watch Fox News. Didn't they question the selection of novices Walker, Oz and Masters before the election?
It was certainly being criticized in other media.
It should have never been a political issue in the first place. Women should be able to decide. Not old farts men. Period.
Abortion will be codified into law by many local legislatures and state referendums. Even though it creates disruption and should have been left alone by the Supreme Court, that's probably a healthier thing than having courts determine the issue.
Unfortunately, several states don't have a referendum process because I believe almost every state would vote to allow abortion over some period of the pregnancy.
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This seemed a bit self-indulgent on Biden's part. I don't mind a bit of gloating in politics, but implying that Democratic victories equate with democracy is just as toxic as election denial.
When a comedic opportunity arises, you have to seize it.
I don't necessarily agree with your generalization, but historically Democratic Administrations were more pro-growth, pro-business than the Biden and Obama Administrations.
I agree, but I would not overstate the Democratic victory Tuesday or their perceived popularity.
Biden and the Dems lost 14 seats in 2020. It's unusual for a new President not to carry more Democrats into the House. That 2020 loss set-up the Republican control of the House this year. We also know the Senate map was a good map for the Dems this cycle and it will go against them in 2024.
I think we can safely say the Democrats weren't being "unfairly" blamed for inflation in 2020.
But historically, there's always a swing to the non governing party in mid terms. The previous 5 presidents have experienced this, except the post 9/11 mid term in 2002. So there was ALWAYS going to be a flip. The point is, it was supposed to be so large that it constituted a historical moment wherein the Democratic Party was essentially destroyed. And that didn't happen.
The pollsters can't determine who is going to show up to vote even if they can find a way to reach them. I don't think they can call close races. They can tell you that someone with a five point margin is going to win.
I'm sure they had a procession of tame pundits on who covered pretty much every angle, except outright pro Dem. So I would guess that the selection of the 3 stooges were also questioned. And much else.
I think I am older than you and also an American. I have heard this destruction rhetoric from both parties for as long as I could understand the news.
I have discussed this with Valcazar. The parties are not static organizations with static ideas. They are constantly tweaking their message. Elections are a continuous feedback loop. Why do you think they called Bill Clinton the Comeback Kid.
For 2024, perhaps Democrats try to tweak their message to appeal to Hispanic groups. Republicans should look for a way to diminish Trumpism. Where are the Democrats without Trumpism to run against? No matter their ideals, no one likes to lose elections and pragmatism will always win in the long-run.
Interesting point. Much of the "crisis" fallout on Fox and among GOP supporters has happened because they got hyper-excited about this election beforehand and essentially came in their pants before they could pull their collective dick out.
Here's my thesis: - Today's GOP operates on a "final showdown" model where each political event is "history-making" because the Dems are wholly evil and "the future of America is at stake". Without an action movie finale wherein the evil Dems are in fact destroyed by the Patriots, the events are anti climactic. And that in turn bleeds off support from the lunatic, unsophisticated, idiot rank and file and cuts into Fox's ratings and the collective mega grifting of the rest of the right wing financial predators.
So unless all elections are billed as "Red Tsunamis", there is simply no point to the current GOP. It has no reason to exist. It cannot go back to the old Bush / Romney / Cheney "politics as usual" GOP because too many scumbag grifter bandwagon riders would lose money if it did. And if it doesn't "destroy" - in scumbag Ben Shapiro's words "red wedding" - the Dems, then something is wrong with America.
Now so far, there have been 2 explanations for what went wrong: - 2020, they stole our votes. And 2022, Trump betrayed us. Note that the underlying belief that the Dems are evil and America must be rescued remains intact. Because that's how you boost ratings at Fox and grift $$$$$$ from the rank and file morons. But someone will always be to blame. And there will always be a new superhero. It was once Trump. It will now be your boy, Ron DeS.
I can see his point. Call me a true believer, but I could see some tampering with the election integrity principle for future elections if the GOP had an overwhelming win in 2022.
The GOPs dicked around with it half-assedly in 2020. This time, they might have got it right.... although given how stupid the GOPs are, they would probably have just fucked it up again.
Aren't you ignoring some obvious things?
The Trump/Russia collusion thing was an overwrought election integrity issue for Dems and liberal media. The media beat on this for over two years and it was great for CNN and MSNBC's ratings. It was echoed by many of the Congressional Democrats. The end result of the expensive investigations weren't very satisfying, but the issue rallied the base. Even before alleged Russian collusion gave them hope of overturning Trump's Presidency, Democrats were wailing that Trump would destroy America. (And I mean wailing. Please don't make me post videos. They're disturbing.)
Interestingly, Democrats in power hasn't been good for CNN/MSNBC's ratings just like Trump in power was not great for Fox News' ratings. Cable news on both sides needs a boogeyman to thrive.
The "evil" Republicans are trying to destroy our democracy is the Democratic flip-side. I'm more cynical of this tactic. This is an good opinion piece below that discusses the hypocrisy and the politics as usual. You don't have to agree with the commentator, but it does raise interesting questions of the Democrat's strategy.
I long for the days when both U.S. parties would just wait for the next election to avenge their losses.
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"If Democrats believed that the pro-Donald Trump candidates are committed to overturning our system of government, they would try to block them every step of the way. Instead, they have often promoted exactly these candidates in the GOP primaries in the (sometimes flagrantly mistaken) belief that they’d be easier to defeat in the general. One would think a national emergency calls for eschewing cynicism, not engaging in grotesque displays of it."
nypost.com
No, democracy is not on the ballot — and cynical Democrats know it
Democracy is under threat — the wrong candidates could win more votes than their opponents in hotly contested free and fair elections.
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